Capitol police shut down Christian children's choir singing national anthem. "Too offensive".

[jmdrake]

See, there you go, exactly the point I was making.

Ha ha. I meant I don't sing the SECOND verse. I think that's clear from the context. That said, considering where America is now, why would you sing either verse of the National Anthem? America's been captured since the creation of the federal reserve system.

[acptulsa]

Why bring forward the second verse that most Americans don't even know exist? Like, what the hell?

Because the kids worked hard, the bus ride was long, he figured they'd remember that performance forever, and he didn't want the signature song to be over in eighty-two seconds.

Please don't take it personally. None of them ever even met you.

[acptulsa]

See, there you go, exactly the point I was making.

No, not hardly exactly. Your tale just has the same happy ending as mine.

[Anti Federalist]

Simply not true. The "slaves" referred to people who might choose to join the British army in exchange for their freedom. They were "conscripted." They volunteered. About 20,000 did. Key didn't want them volunteering.

Of course he didn't want them joining. Why would you want a foreign power that you were at war with recruiting 20,000 more people to fight against you?

And when the "kill the Boer" song was written, the Boer farmers, not all white people, were the enemies of "patriots" in South Africa. And the question that you refuse to address is why sing the 2nd verse of the Star Spangled Banner in 2023?

Because they chose to sing the entire song, in the most appropriate place I can think of. It is what it is. If you are offended by female nudity, do you then Krylon over Rueben's chubby lovelies?

And because it's not implicitly racist.

And don't give the cop out answer you gave earlier. A real answer for black people who still waive the American flag and don't hate America. Why bring forward the second verse that most Americans don't even know exist? Like, what the hell?

Most Americans don't have the slightest idea what the first verse is even talking about.

Your malapropism about waving flags is telling.

Most Americans have no clue about that flag either.

[Anti Federalist]

Ha ha. I meant I don't sing the SECOND verse. I think that's clear from the context. That said, considering where America is now, why would you sing either verse of the National Anthem? America's been captured since the creation of the federal reserve system.

For a long time I didn't.

But, over a period of decades now, I've come to realize that I was wrong.

There were still a few diamonds left in the manure pile, if only I had been not so dumb or not so angry as to see them.

Now, if I sing it or salute it, it's more of a requiem than anything else.

And a prayer to my children, that they will do a better job than me at protecting those jewels.

[acptulsa]

I wish I knew how the Federal Department of Psyops convinced people that white males (like my personal known abolitionist forefathers) never suffered under the policies of white male politicians. I can count on one hand's worth of fingers the number of times during my days on earth that they did something that didn't make my life harder.

Don't even have to take the other mitt off, much less my shoes.

[jmdrake]

Of course he didn't want them joining. Why would you want a foreign power that you were at war with recruiting 20,000 more people to fight against you?

I already agreed with that context and you already agreed with the South African context...so...why are you still going around about this?

Because they chose to sing the entire song, in the most appropriate place I can think of. It is what it is. If you are offended by female nudity, do you then Krylon over Rueben's chubby lovelies?

And some people chose to continue to sing an entire song about ending apartheid that includes getting rid of the white Boer farmers. Not all white people are Boers or farmers. Nothing wrong with farming. Nothing wrong with slaves joining the British to fight for their freedom just like there's nothing wrong with the colonists fighting the British for their freedom. Nothing wrong with indigenous black people wanting to get their land back. Everybody has a reason for everything. There are a lot of white people in South Africa who aren't farmers at this point.

And because it's not implicitly racist.

Then nothing is.

Most Americans don't have the slightest idea what the first verse is even talking about.

Your malapropism about waving flags is telling.

Most Americans have no clue about that flag either.

You know what made me less patriotic than I was in my youth? It wasn't the history of racism. It was the history of Operation Northwoods. Chew on that for a bit.

[jmdrake]

I wish I knew how the Federal Department of Psyops convinced people that white males (like my personal known abolitionist forefathers) never suffered under the policies of white male politicians. I can count on one hand's worth of fingers the number of times during my days on earth that they did something that didn't make my life harder.

Don't even have to take the other mitt off, much less my shoes.

Oh that was the whole point of the aftermath of Bacon's Rebellion (where poor blacks and poor whites together challenged the ruling class). Make the poor whites think they are somewhat better off than the poor blacks and keep those two groups fighting.
@Anti Federalist, what part of Fred Hampton's speech to the "Young Patriots" (white group in Chicago) do you disagree with?

[jmdrake]

Because the kids worked hard, the bus ride was long, he figured they'd remember that performance forever, and he didn't want the signature song to be over in eighty-two seconds.

Please don't take it personally. None of them ever even met you.

So.....nobody thought of doing a medley? First verse of the National Anthem, the Battle Hymn of the Republic, America The Beautiful, there are a whole host of songs to chose from. And at a certain level I don't give a crap. But all of the pearl clutching over "kill the Boer" by people who aren't even Boers while simultaneously defending the indefensible second verse of the National Anthem is odd. Hell, I didn't start the thread. With everything going on in the world, why do people care that some kids were stopped from singing a verse that some people find offensive when most Americans don't even know the verse exists?

[acptulsa]

I don't know, man. Whoever hired the choir director probably thought his conventional sensibilities meant he would be less likely to get the kids kicked out than someone like me, who would have taught them songs like these:





Now there's a medley fit for today's Capitol rotunda!

[Anti Federalist]

So.....nobody thought of doing a medley? First verse of the National Anthem, the Battle Hymn of the Republic, America The Beautiful, there are a whole host of songs to chose from. And at a certain level I don't give a crap. But all of the pearl clutching over "kill the Boer" by people who aren't even Boers while simultaneously defending the indefensible second verse of the National Anthem is odd. Hell, I didn't start the thread. With everything going on in the world, why do people care that some kids were stopped from singing a verse that some people find offensive when most Americans don't even know the verse exists?

A - Because if they were the "Young Black Octobrists" singing "Kill the Boer" in the capital, as part of a worldwide solidarity event, nobody would have said a word. But because it was a group of young Christians, singing the national anthem in its entirety everybody loses their $#@! and runs them off.

B - Because it was a skirmish in the Marxist revolution. Nothing could be "newsworthy".

Nobody thought of doing a medley because almost nobody, including myself, find anything wrong with the line.

Only by using the most tortured of logic, can that line be spun into anything even remotely "racist".

[Anti Federalist]

@Anti Federalist, what part of Fred Hampton's speech to the "Young Patriots" (white group in Chicago) do you disagree with?

His very first words: "I'm a revolutionary!"

Hampton was a Marxist/Leninist.

I will not unite with Marxist revolution.

[Anti Federalist]

But all of the pearl clutching over "kill the Boer" by people who aren't even Boers

Key's poem was written over, and about events, that happened 200 years ago.

Next year Julius Malema may be president of South Africa, the most advanced and powerful sub Saharan African nation there is.

He is planning on waging continental war to absorb all of sub-Saharan Africa in a Marxist, Pan-African state.

He has openly said he will exterminate any hapless whites left behind enemy lines.

Marxist NGOs are importing men of fighting age into my back yard from these nations.

I do not want, and I have every right to say, I Do Not Want, African Marxist revolutionaries, radicalized by the likes of Julius Malema, in my back yard.

So that's why I'm "clutching pearls".

[AngryCanadian]

Imagine shutting a Choir for being to "Offensive"

[Occam's Banana]

Why bring forward the second verse that most Americans don't even know exist?

I endorse Frank Drebbin's "Enrico Pallazzo" solution to this problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxHnXajIex4

[Dr.3D]

Damn, can't do anything anymore, because somebody might take offense.

Is there anything you can do that if you looked hard enough, you could find somebody who would be offended?

[Anti Federalist]

Damn, can't do anything anymore, because somebody might take offense.

Is there anything you can do that if you looked hard enough, you could find somebody who would be offended?

Welcome to Marxist Revolution comrade.

That is, quite literally, right out of the playbook.

Everything must be made political.

[Dr.3D]

Welcome to Marxist Revolution comrade.

That is, quite literally, right out of the playbook.

Everything must be made political.

Well, I'm offended that they are offended.

[acptulsa]

Well, I'm offended that they are offended.

Me too.

Hell, I'm offended that you're offended that they're offended.

[Anti Federalist]

[Anti Federalist]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1688196208894816256

[jmdrake]

Damn, can't do anything anymore, because somebody might take offense.

Is there anything you can do that if you looked hard enough, you could find somebody who would be offended?

Welcome to Marxist Revolution comrade.

That is, quite literally, right out of the playbook.

Everything must be made political.

Oh FFS! I'm 50 years old. I didn't complain when I went to a mostly white summer camp and they sang Dixie. Lived through a white (fake) Christian boarding academy where many, if not most, of the white kids had some sort of Confederate flag on their clothing. I remember the day when another kid, of German descent was drawing Swastika on the computer screen. I said "Why the hell would you do that?" He replied "I'm full blood German. This is my German heritage."

I started to say something...then I realized "The Nazis weren't wholesale killing black people. So why do I give confederates a pass but get up in arms about the Nazis?" Turns out, Hitler actually treated captured black U.S. servicemen better than their own military. The only time the Tuskegee airmen weren't in segregated quarters were when they were POWs.

So, unless you are someone that [b]never[]/b] gets offended by anything then don't bitch about someone else getting offended by something. I personally find a threat of death to slaves for the *gasp* audacity of considering they should follow the ideals of the founding fathers and fight for freedom to be far more offensive than "Dixie" (some people say that song was written by a slave) or the confederate flag or the Nazi flag. But as a first amendment point of view, i would have let the rugrats sing. I also would h ave let them sing "Kill the Boer" and "Put the Jews in the oven" and "Lynch the darkies" if that's what they wanted to do from a first amendment point of view. But it's beyond asinine for anyone else to tell me or anyone else what they should or should not be offended over. Again most people didn't even know about the fcking second verse! This isn't like taking down Robert E. Lee's statute that's been up in plain sight for the past 100 years. It's dredging up something that was in the dustbin of history and saying "Well what are you offended about?" That's gate keeping and mind control that's just as disgusting as anything any left wing woke communist does.

AND I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THIS WASN'T DONE AS A PSYOP TO GET PEOPLE MAD AT EACH OTHER! Again, the song is 200 years old and for most of that history people haven't sung the 2nd verse. No legitimate reason to start singing it now. You can if you want. But don't bitch if other people don't like it.

[jmdrake]

A - Because if they were the "Young Black Octobrists" singing "Kill the Boer" in the capital, as part of a worldwide solidarity event, nobody would have said a word. But because it was a group of young Christians, singing the national anthem in its entirety everybody loses their $#@! and runs them off.

B - Because it was a skirmish in the Marxist revolution. Nothing could be "newsworthy".

Nobody thought of doing a medley because almost nobody, including myself, find anything wrong with the line.

Only by using the most tortured of logic, can that line be spun into anything even remotely "racist".

Ben Swann thinks it's racist. Pretty much every black person who's ever heard it thinks it's racist. It's been buried in the dustbin of history because most Americans think it's racist. And that's because it is racist.

[Anti Federalist]

Ben Swann thinks it's racist. Pretty much every black person who's ever heard it thinks it's racist. It's been buried in the dustbin of history because most Americans think it's racist. And that's because it is racist.

I am quite sure fifty years ago very few people thought the national anthem was racist.

Traditionally, only the first verse is sung, and that has been the case ever since 1931 when it was adopted.

The lyrics are obscure and the melody is torture to sing.

I defy you to find ten instances of large public gatherings, sports or political events where the full poem is sung.

The kids in this case chose to sing the entire anthem because it was a once in a lifetime experience in a once in lifetime venue.

And they got $#@! upon, because they were white, because they came from a conservative school, and because they were Christian.

That verse is not racist in any way, period.

As I noted before, the song is a cruel joke anymore anyway.

Petition to have it done away with.