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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    IOW: "Random schmucks on the Internet have more political savvy than Donald Trump."

    Well, okay, I guess ... if you say so ...
    I thought I showed considerable restraint in not referring him to my sig.
    "Trump was just a chuckle-headed sucker" is not an effective sales pitch.



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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    IOW: "Random schmucks on the Internet have more political savvy than Donald Trump."

    Well, okay, I guess ... if you say so ...
    Do the odds. What are the odds a guy who gets elected President knew more than the less than 2-3% of the population on the internet who knew that $#@!?

    Admittedly, the number is much higher now than it was in 2015. You have Trump to thank for that.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Me and you knew not to trust anybody in DC, Trump thought he could trust SOME people there to do the right thing, but he didn't know how swampy the entire thing was.
    IOW: "Random schmucks on the Internet have more political savvy than Donald Trump."

    Well, okay, I guess ... if you say so ...
    Do the odds. What are the odds a guy who gets elected President knew more than the less than 2-3% of the population on the internet who knew that $#@!?

    Admittedly, the number is much higher now than it was in 2015. You have Trump to thank for that.
    IOW: "Random schmucks on the Internet have more political savvy than Donald Trump." ... than Donald Trump ...

    Well, okay, I guess ... if you say so ... you say so ...

    (Hey! Is there an echo in here ?... echo in here? ...)
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 05-24-2023 at 12:14 AM.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    IOW: "Random schmucks on the Internet have more political savvy than Donald Trump." ... than Donald Trump ...

    Well, okay, I guess ... if you say so ... you say so ...

    (Hey! Is there an echo in here ?... echo in here? ...)
    Define "political savy"

    If you include getting elected, there are none.

    If you include armchair quarterbacking all his actions in office, then ya, sure..
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Define "political savvy"
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    [Knowing] not to trust anybody in DC [...]
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    If you include getting elected, there are none.

    If you include armchair quarterbacking all his actions in office, then ya, sure..
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    [...] Trump thought he could trust SOME people there to do the right thing, but he didn't know how swampy the entire thing was.
    [insert moving_the_goalposts.gif here]

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    [insert moving_the_goalposts.gif here]
    That's not really moving the goalposts since none of them can get elected, and Trump can. Trump is one of the few outsiders in the entire world who has even a remote possibility of being elected President.

    If Ron Paul Forums got to vote for President, and whoever won became President, I wouldn't even really consider voting for Trump.. his biggest asset is how much they $#@!ed him over during his first term and how much vengeance he wants for that - add to that how good he is at getting vengeance.
    Last edited by dannno; 05-24-2023 at 02:30 AM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Define "political savy"
    It's the stuff you said you and I have and Trump doesn't.

    But you're wrong. The mere fact that you're this convinced he isn't what he is proves he's the savvy one, not you.

    "Trump was just a chuckle-headed sucker" is not an effective sales pitch.

  10. #68
    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/s...02514340651008


    Presented for your (bitter) amusement:

    The scandal that's hit America and will be bigger than Watergate
    It will soon become clear that the Biden-Garland-establishment system has engaged in criminality that makes Watergate look like kindergarten
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/scan...gger-watergate
    Newt Gingrich (25 May 2023)

    The current reports of executive branch illegality make Watergate look like kindergarten mischief.

    It is clear from the Durham report and the work of House Republican hearings that the current scandals in the Biden White House — and senior bureaucracies at the Justice Department, IRS and elsewhere — are much deeper and more cancerous than Watergate ever was.

    It may be hard to remember, but Watergate came about due to a weird, dumb and fairly narrow set of criminal behaviors which mushroomed into 69 officials being indicted and 48 imprisoned.

    I remember Watergate vividly, because I first ran for Congress in 1974 during the Watergate scandal.

    President Richard Nixon had won the largest popular vote majority in modern history in 1972 (60.7 percent to 37.5 percent). He won every state and territory except Massachusetts and the District of Columbia.

    Two short years later, he became the first president to resign from office.

    In an idiotic move, the Nixon presidential campaign sent five men to burglarize the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate Hotel. Aside from being a crime, it was idiotic because Nixon was clearly going to win in a landslide. They did not need any information. But the Nixon re-elect campaign had so much money, had hired so many people, and had become so drunk with power that it lost control of what it was doing.

    The real problem came when President Nixon and his team intervened to try to control the investigation. Ultimately, the President used the CIA, the FBI and the IRS to try to divert and cover up the involvement of the campaign with the Watergate burglars.

    John Mitchell became the first attorney general to be sent to jail. He was found guilty of conspiracy, obstruction of justice and perjury. He was ultimately sentenced to 19 months in a federal minimum-security prison in Montgomery, Alabama.

    Mitchell is an extremely important parallel to the current disaster, because Attorney General Merrick Garland seems to be doing a lot more obstructing of justice than Mitchell ever dreamed of doing. Garland’s Justice Department reportedly instructed the IRS to disband the unit investigating Hunter Biden’s taxes.

    He has used the FBI to harass former President Donald Trump and a wide range of Republicans. And he’s turned a blind eye to every report of foreign money going to the Biden family ($3 million in one Chinese transaction, a diamond sent to Hunter Biden, millions of dollars sent by the widow of the Mayor of Moscow, etc.).

    Garland’s also done nothing with the clear references to "the big guy" in various Hunter Biden emails. He’s ignored the testimony of Hunter Biden’s associates that Joe Biden was actively supporting them as vice president. The list goes on.

    If Nixon’s White House was trying, unsuccessfully, to manipulate the IRS, the FBI and the CIA, Biden’s White House has become quite good at it. These institutions are now so corrupted that their senior leadership is instinctively willing to break the law, frame the innocent, and obstruct justice in defense of their chosen leader. This includes lying to FISA courts, leaking falsehoods to the equally corrupt elite media, and isolating and punishing would-be whistleblowers.

    Compare the shock of Democrats and Republicans in the Watergate era with the staunch unwillingness of virtually any Democrat to go after the Biden family scandals — or to be infuriated at the blatant abuses of power and obstructions of justice.

    The Durham report had an impact, because it began to build a narrative of such institutional illegality and corruption that the hand of the House Republican investigators has been dramatically strengthened.

    Over the next few months, we will learn more about just how sick the system has become, just how dishonest the elite corporate media are, and just how deep the need for reform is.

    In Watergate, a narrow trail of idiotic criminal behavior and cover up led to 69 officials being indicted and 48 going to jail.

    When the tide turns, and honest people are once again openly enraged and demanding action, we are going to learn just how much corruption there is.

    At that point, we will realize that Watergate was a modest preliminary venture into lawbreaking, and the Biden-Garland-establishment system is filled with criminality on a grand scale.

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Over the next few months...
    See, this is where they always lose me. I'm not one of these "indictments and mass-arrests" buffoons... but damn-it, if you have an actual existential crisis... blood gushing from the jugular and zero blood-pressure, that's when you take decisive action, not sit around and strategize how the corpse could be useful in the next 4-year election run. "Never let a good emergency go to waste" only works for Fake News 'emergencies', not reality. What use is it to have the best possible political strategy for a 2024 Red Wave... if you're running the damn thing from a smoldering heap of radioactive ruins where a major American city used to be? If these DC insiders have so much control over this information that they can release it in a trickle "over the next few months", why hasn't this information already been acted on, a long time ago?!

    The only people who seem to be comfortable in Clown World are the DC Swamp creatures, both left and right... so that means the right-wing insiders knew this was coming all along and never said anything about it... isn't that treachery, too??

    </vent>

    PS: Not directed at you personally, just getting fed up with years and years of this endless merry-go-round ...
    The Kingdom of God has come upon you. -- Matthew 12:28

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    PS: Not directed at you personally, just getting fed up with years and years of this endless merry-go-round ...
    No offense taken. As I said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Presented for your (bitter) amusement:

  13. #71
    "Trump was just a chuckle-headed sucker" is not an effective sales pitch.

  14. #72
    "Trump was just a chuckle-headed sucker" is not an effective sales pitch.



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  16. #73
    https://twitter.com/Tom74818810/stat...68132266074113

    "Trump was just a chuckle-headed sucker" is not an effective sales pitch.

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