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  1. #211
    Expect riots to break out all over the country now after this verdict.
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  4. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Yeah, I noticed that contradiction right away. Has an answer been provided?
    We'll probably never know. unless the jurors "go public" about their deliberations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I can only speculate...

    Perhaps the juror(s) that thought he was guilty on the greater charge were angry that it was dropped by the prosecution and were simply being vindictive? Or maybe they were indicating that the greater charge was the correct one, thus they would not accept the lesser charge? Or why not both?
    I wonder if maybe they were pissed off because (after their initial "hung jury" declaration) they were forced to continue deliberations on the manslaughter charge - and not just once, but twice. Then right out of the blue, the prosecutor abruptly dismissed that charge altogether (and "with prejudice", as required by law) - rendering the whole thing pointless. All the time and contention the jury spent on that charge was effectively completely wasted - and now, to top it all off, they were being told they would have to go ahead decide the negligent homicide charge, after all. So maybe the few jurors [1] who held out for a "guilty" verdict on the manslaughter charge just decided "to hell with it - if the prosecutor can't be bothered about it, then why should we be?".



    [1] And I do think it had to be just a few jurors - just one, maybe two or three - who voted "guilty" on the hung manslaughter verdict. If it had been any more that - especially on the high end of the range (9, 10, or 11) - it would have been considerably more unlikely that they would all change their minds, and we would have ended up with a hung jury on the negligent homicide charge, as well. So I think this strange outcome indirectly indicates a strong pro-acquittal sentiment on the jury, with just a few "guilty" holdouts who (for whatever reasons) changed their position for the negligent homicide charge.
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 12-10-2024 at 05:11 PM.

  5. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    We'll probably never know. unless the jurors "go public" about their deliberations.



    I wonder if maybe they were pissed off because (after their initial "hung jury" declaration) they were forced to continue deliberations on the manslaughter charge not once, but twice. Then the prosecutor just up and dismissed that charge altogether (and "with prejudice", as required by law) - rendering the whole thing pointless. All the time and contention the jury spent on that charge was effectively completely wasted - and now, to top it all off, they were being told they would have to decide the negligent homicide charge, after all. So maybe the few jurors [1] who held out for "guilty" verdict on the manslaughter charge just decided "to hell with it - if the prosecutor can't be bothered, why should we?"



    [1] And I do think it had be just a few jurors - just one, maybe two or three - who voted "guilty" on the hung manslaughter verdict. If it had been any more that - especially on the high end of the range (9, 10, or 11) - it would have been considerably more unlikely that they would all change their minds, and we would have ended up with a hung jury on the negligent homicide charge, as well. So I think this strange outcome indirectly indicates a strong pro-acquittal sentiment on the jury, with just a few "guilty" holdouts who (for whatever reasons) changed their position for the negligent homicide charge.
    Agree. Can't ignore the fact that the Judge and prosecutor were jerking them around and holding them hostage the entire time...
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  7. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Expect riots to break out all over the country now after this verdict.
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    https://x.com/michaelmalice/status/1866217542307746118
    to: https://x.com/michaelmalice/status/1866217820733796809
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 12-11-2024 at 01:30 PM.

  10. #218
    Dan Abrams Confronts BLM Founder On Daniel Penny Case.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJzbOpo5_Kg
    {Nate The Lawyer | 11 December 2024}

    Dan Abrams takes on a BLM founder in a heated discussion about the Daniel Penny case and the broader implications of race and justice in America. In this viral debate, the two clash over whether the legal system is inherently biased and the role public perception plays in high-profile cases like Jordan Neely's. Witness the fiery exchange as Abrams challenges the activist's stance, calling out inconsistencies and exploring the racial dynamics surrounding the controversial subway incident. Stay tuned for exclusive insights, bodycam footage analysis, and eyewitness accounts that shed light on this polarizing case.

    This video is a must-watch for anyone following the Daniel Penny case or interested in the intersection of race, justice, and media narratives. Don’t miss the gripping back-and-forth that has everyone talking!


  11. #219
    The BLACK Daniel Penny | Similar Story, Different Outcome
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLEV9TVOk9o
    {Nate The Lawyer | 11 December 2024}


  12. #220
    BLM Founder Calls For Violence Over Daniel Penny Verdict
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL6BdcrVmOQ
    {Actual Justice Warrior | 11 December 2024}

    In this video I discuss the many failures from those who now are trying to cash in on Neely & of course BLM's newest calls for violence.

    Sources:

    Neely Father Lawsuit: https://nypost.com/2024/12/10/us-new...t-in-the-room/
    BLM Press Conference After Verdict: https://www.youtube.com/live/G9esjeTAD-U
    My Video On the Prosecutors Dirty Trick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiy0R9qVDV0 [see this post - OB]
    Charges Dropped News Segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR70Fw30zk4
    BLM Pushing Violence Again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye83AaM_7a4
    Article On The Case The DA Refused To Charge: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-revealed.html
    Local News Segment With Full Breakdown Of Jury Issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2NlEGq1CJY
    Prosecutor Let's Killer Off Easy: https://x.com/captivedreamer7/status...71758028231081
    My Previous Video On Jury Deadlock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmjXtriAmyg [see this post - OB]
    My Previous More Detailed Breakdown Of The Case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ec0lJGboTI [see this post - OB]
    Local News Segment On Closing Arguments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCZwcsDZy6I
    My Video From Before Penny's Arrest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6KWvPpzyDQ [see this post - OB]
    My Video On Bragg's Political Motive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Et0OSwh-E [see this post - OB]
    My Video On The Medical Examiner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fq0oVwM5jY [see this post - OB]
    Local News Segment: Daniel Penny Interrogation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb7znyonGVM
    Local News Segment Medical Examiner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaVkuPAnAlE
    Local News Segment With Body Cam Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5MbDR2pW5U
    Local News Segment With Immunity Deal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peRWbwQcNRI&t=0s
    NYPost Article Used: https://nypost.com/2024/11/12/opinio...es-unpunished/


  13. #221
    I get the feeling that this one isn't going to grow legs.

    I don't know why, but protests now land on the Biden admin, plus I think most black people know that Neely was being annoying and could have easily been choked out by a brother with the same results.

  14. #222
    The Judge says that it was a form of jury nullification that took place...





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  15. #223
    https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1869717148593279257

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  16. #224
    San Francisco Worker TAKES DOWN Armed Robber
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrEB9rB2pGI
    {Actual Justice Warrior | 22 December 2024}

    In this video I discuss the story of Nick Grant, a man who saw a robbery happen right in front of him as is normal in San Francisco who decided he was going to step up like Daniel Penny & take down the criminal.

    Sources:




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