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Thread: The War on Guns Is Lost

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    {Spike Cohen @RealSpikeCohen | 16 December 2023}

    The best part about the gun debate is that it's increasingly just academic.

    Our victory is assured.

    Put aside Bruen, or Heller, or McDonald, or any of the other gun rights victories in courts.

    Put aside the massive increases in gun ownership, in every demographic.

    Right now, there are more guns than people in the US.

    Tomorrow, that gun/people ratio will grow, as it has for years, and shows no sign of stopping.

    Every day, 3D manufacturing technology continues to improve.

    You're already able to make a functioning gun at home, using free, publicly-available printing files.

    As that technology improves, we will reach the gun singularity, wherein you can make a gun at home of the same or better quality than you'd get from a manufacturer.

    Soon after, you'll be able to print better weapons at home than the meandering bureaucracy at the Pentagon can procure.

    We won't need to be terrorist groups or cartels to get machine guns from the CIA and ATF. We'll just make our own, and our stuff will be better than theirs.

    And thanks to Tor nodes, VPNs and other privacy tech, they won't even be able to know who's making them, or where they are.

    Yes, I believe we're winning the academic debate.

    Yes, I think that the court decisions will still largely be in our favor.

    Yes, I think more and more states will repeal their own gun laws, nullify bad federal gun laws, and forbid municipalities from implementing new ones.

    Yes, I think the public is increasingly realizing the futility of trying to ban guns, when criminals don't care if you ban their guns.

    But ultimately, it doesn't matter.

    Recreational drugs that aren't alcohol are still as illegal as they were 50 yeard ago, and tens of billions are spent every year to wage a war against them.

    And they're easier to get than ever before.

    And you can't 3D print your own drugs at home.


    Right now, saying you can't own a gun is as effective as saying you can't own a bag of weed.

    Soon enough, it'll be as effective as saying you can't own a paper airplane.

    And when we reach critical mass, guns will become like weed; effectively decriminalized almost everywhere, despite whatever the feds have to say about it at that point.

    Rest assured, we are winning.

    So enjoy the debate, because it's little more than entertainment anyway.

    "But they banned guns in [insert cherry-picked country here] and their murder rate is lower!"

    1. I could cherry-pick countries with strict gun laws, whose murder rates are several times higher than ours. El Salvador, Jamaica, Nigeria. So many cherries to pick.

    2. The country you cherry-picked had a relative handful of guns that were all recorded and easy to confiscate. We have more guns than people.

    3. Going back to my original point, guns will soon be easy to make, at home, everywhere. Including your cherry-picked country.

    4. Read this thread by @MorosKostas about international homicide rate comparisons before bringing the subject up again:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Signs of Civil Disobedience in Illinois Gun Registration Efforts
    {Cam Edwards | 27 November 2023}


    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Report: Only 1% of Illinois Gun Owners Comply with ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban

    AWR HAWKINS 16 Jan 2024

    WBEZ reported that only one percent of individuals holding Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) cards had complied with Illinois’s “assault weapons” ban registration requirement as of January 11, 2024.

    Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker (D) signed the “assault weapons” ban into law on January 10, 2023, after which his office released a statement that said, in part, “The new law also requires existing owners of semi-automatic rifles to register their ownership, ensuring that law enforcement knows the location of these weapons of war and who to hold accountable if they fall into the wrong hands.”

    Owners of firearms, which Democrats categorize as “assault weapons,” were required to register their guns before January 1, 2024. WBEZ’s report on compliance as of January 11, 2024, shows that there has been little to no additional registration by the deadline, as the Chicago Sun-Times reported that “only 1% of people with firearm owners identification cards in the state had registered.”

    The Sun-Times spoke with Illinois State Police about the non-compliance, who said, “Decisions on how to enforce [the ‘assault weapons’ ban] will be up to each law enforcement and prosecutorial jurisdiction within Illinois.”

    On December 29, 2023, the Courthouse News Service noted that enforcement of the “assault weapons” ban largely falls on the sheriffs of Illinois’s 102 counties. And just days after the “assault weapons” ban was signed, Breitbart News pointed out that 80 sheriffs made it clear that they would not enforce it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post

    120 that they know of.

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

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