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  1. #241
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Hannity town hall with RFK Jr tonight.

    TIK TOK
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Hannity is obviously an establishment hack, but still, why wont anyone let RFK answer a question FFS.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8AJR5qwUXI
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    https://twitter.com/ThomasEWoods/sta...69120724307969


    Sean Hannity vs. man with brain
    https://mailchi.mp/tomwoods/dore-324921
    Tom Woods

    So much that's wrong with American conservatism is summed up in Sean Hannity.

    The man has no curiosity. He rarely if ever follows an issue all the way down to the root. He's happy to remain on the superficial surface, where he can score points against "the Democrats."

    (It's entirely noble to score points against the Democrats, but much of what Hannity criticizes can be found also among Republicans, where he is mute.)

    When I appeared on television with him in the middle of promoting The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History, I was flabbergasted to learn that he had never before heard it said that the New Deal had made the economy worse than it would otherwise have been. So he knew nothing of the history of his own movement, which is filled with critics of FDR who made these very arguments.

    So when I saw that he had recently interviewed RFK, Jr., I knew he must have come out second best. I correctly predicted that he would show up with standard talking points, and RFK would know the actual story.

    When it came to Ukraine, it was the usual "I think Putin is a bad guy; why do you trust him?" nonsense that would insult a second grader.

    RFK, Jr., explained that key American diplomats -- including George Kennan, the author of the containment strategy during the Cold War and one of the most celebrated American foreign-policy analysts -- urged against the ongoing expansion of NATO, which contradicted assurances that were made to Russia in the early 1990s.

    Ivermectin came up and Hannity said he'd never seen a study attesting to its effectiveness. RFK said that's because the media don't report on them, and then referred the audience to Yale's Harvey Risch. Suddenly, it was time for a commercial break.

    But I especially liked the part when they discussed the Covid lockdowns and Hannity tried to make excuses. RFK was having none of it:

    RFK, Jr.: Lockdowns were the final straw.... We created a billionaire a day -- this was Trump and Biden and 500 days of lockdowns. We created a billionaire a day. We moved $4 trillion from the American middle class to the super rich. We built the people who came into the lockdown with 30 with $1 billion increase their wealth on average by 30%. We closed 3.3 million businesses.

    Hannity: In retrospect -- and I get for a period of time in the early days, nobody knew what the hell they were dealing with. Let's be fair.

    RFK, Jr.: I'm not going to be fair.

    That's the spirit we need, honestly. No more benefit of the doubt.



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  3. #242
    Has this been posted.

    Sounding quite Ron Paul-esque, especially regarding the middle class.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s9oWbG02pzs

    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

  4. #243
    RFK Jr. Criticizes Israel’s Judicial Reforms

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/rfk-jr...icial-reforms/

    The Israeli Supreme Court is the Israeli Deep State.
    It is unelected, controls its own replacements and the selection of all other judges, and has arrogated the authority to overrule all legislation, appointments, and policies based on "reasonableness" which always means anything the international left doesn't like is "unreasonable".

    The reforms seek to rein in the dictatorial rule of the court.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  5. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    RFK Jr. Criticizes Israel’s Judicial Reforms

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/rfk-jr...icial-reforms/

    The Israeli Supreme Court is the Israeli Deep State.
    It is unelected, controls its own replacements and the selection of all other judges, and has arrogated the authority to overrule all legislation, appointments, and policies based on "reasonableness" which always means anything the international left doesn't like is "unreasonable".

    The reforms seek to rein in the dictatorial rule of the court.
    thread split: [SPLIT] RFK Jr. & Israel

  6. #245
    https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/statu...23224189235200


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  8. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    A boardsman of the Libertarian Party Classical Liberal Caucus has some thoughts:

    https://twitter.com/JoshEakle/status...37764767571969

  9. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    RFK Jr. Criticizes Israel’s Judicial Reforms

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/rfk-jr...icial-reforms/

    The Israeli Supreme Court is the Israeli Deep State.
    It is unelected, controls its own replacements and the selection of all other judges, and has arrogated the authority to overrule all legislation, appointments, and policies based on "reasonableness" which always means anything the international left doesn't like is "unreasonable".

    The reforms seek to rein in the dictatorial rule of the court.
    Israel's Judicial reforms

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  11. #249
    Dayum, lookin like a scrawny hippie but definitely likeable.

    I understand if you think that a person or group of people have been wronged and you believe in justice for those people.

    I think that Ron Paul would agree with the sentiment but would approach the issue from the perspective of the NAP, that real change comes from leading by example, education, diplomacy, empathy, understanding, voluntarism and love.

    But I think RFK Jr. meant well.

    Heres a link to the one copy on Amazon:


    https://www.amazon.com/Judge-Frank-M.../dp/0399121234


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw3O6xkPLKg


    Last edited by unknown; 07-31-2023 at 05:36 AM.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

  12. #250

  13. #251
    RFK Endorses AOC’s Green New Deal, Calls for Climate Taxation

    https://www.independentsentinel.com/...mate-taxation/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  14. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    RFK Endorses AOC’s Green New Deal, Calls for Climate Taxation

    https://www.independentsentinel.com/...mate-taxation/
    That is a deal breaker for me.
    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
    ― George Orwell, 1984

  15. #253
    “I’ve spent 40 years litigating against the agencies, the regulatory agencies in the United States, so I can tell you that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is effectively run by the oil industry, the coal industry and the pesticide industry.”


    "He opposed a Dutch effort to clamp down on excessive use of fertilizer, which produces both conventional air pollutants and greenhouse gases, because he thought it was unfair to small farmers. But what he’s actually in favor of isn’t specified."


    He'll be at CPAC. Maybe someone can get him to specify what parts of the Green Deal he likes

  16. #254
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    “I’ve spent 40 years litigating against the agencies, the regulatory agencies in the United States, so I can tell you that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is effectively run by the oil industry, the coal industry and the pesticide industry.”
    Like many environmental "activists", like the completely corrupt RFK Jr!

    .
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    "He opposed a Dutch effort to clamp down on excessive use of fertilizer, which produces both conventional air pollutants and greenhouse gases, because he thought it was unfair to small farmers. But what he’s actually in favor of isn’t specified."
    Yeah sure... Bobby Kennedy the champion for the small farmers...

    In 1999, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. founded the Waterkeeper Alliance, part of a whole clean "water" network.
    Waterkeeper Alliance's activities included lawsuits against small farmers for clean water, to sue them out of business.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr.
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  17. #255
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Like many environmental "activists", like the completely corrupt RFK Jr!
    lol how is he completely corrupt?? I'd really like to know. If you explain, please do it with the histrionics.


    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Yeah sure... Bobby Kennedy the champion for the small farmers...

    In 1999, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. founded the Waterkeeper Alliance, part of a whole clean "water" network.
    Waterkeeper Alliance's activities included lawsuits against small farmers for clean water, to sue them out of business.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr.
    yeah sure like he went into that with the purposeful intent of putting small farmers out of business. Use your head. It's about stopping pollution and no one gets to circumvent the rules.

  18. #256
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    yeah sure like he went into that with the purposeful intent of putting small farmers out of business. Use your head. It's about stopping pollution and no one gets to circumvent the rules.
    I guess that you've never had the misfortune to have to deal with corrupt, lying attorneys do you?

    .
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    lol how is he completely corrupt?? I'd really like to know. If you explain, please do it with the histrionics.
    It looks to me like you'd rather believe in fairytales, than "know" the truth, hoping that voting for the selected puppets will make america great again...

    .

    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    VantagePoint Venture Partners (where Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was a partner) was the seed funder for BrightSource Energy, whose main project was the $2.2 billion costing Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System in the Mojave Desert (in California). Because of its high costs it couldn’t be cost efficient (7 times as expensive as gas) and could only have been built using government subsidies.

    The US government provided a $1.6 billon loan guarantee to get the Ivanpah plant built on public land.
    In November 2014, Ivanpah's investors applied for a $539 million federal grant to pay off the federal loan (strangely no more information on this…).

    In October 2010, governator Schwarzenegger (who was married to a Kennedy) approved the Ivanpah project.
    See Interior Secretary Ken Salazar next to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger at the Mojave Desert holding a plague commemorating the Ivanpah fraud, 17 October 2010.


    The Ivanpah project was mainly financed by NRG Energy with $300 million and Google that contributed $168 million.
    Bechtel was partners in this scheme by leading the construction of 3 adjacent towers.

    Of course it isn’t environmentally friendly at all. The Ivanpah plant burns natural gas each morning to preheat the water. If that fuel had been used in a Combined Cycle Gas Turbine (CCGT), it would have generated about 124 GWh of electrical energy. In perfect circumstances, Ivanpah would produce 419 GWh of electrical energy a day.

    That’s besides destroying the Mojave Desert, including the habitat of the endangered desert tortoise.
    The Ivanpah plant has also burnt thousands of birds (an estimated 1000 birds a year killed): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanpa...Power_Facility


    Other investors in BrightSource included Bechtel (of course!), Chevron Technology Ventures and BP Technology Ventures (BP = British Petroleum): https://www.greentechmedia.com/artic...-ivanpah-plant


    In 1996, VantagePoint Capital Partners was founded by Jim Marver and Alan Salzman.
    Salzman has served as Finance Chair of the World Business Summit on Climate Change, and a member of (of course) the WEF and the BP Alternative Energy’s advisory board:
    Bechtel-Bohemian-Grove-Bush-Schwarzenegger-RFK-Jr
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  20. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    I guess that you've never had the misfortune to have to deal with corrupt, lying attorneys do you?
    lol And? So?

    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    It looks to me like you'd rather believe in fairytales, than "know" the truth, hoping that voting for the selected puppets will make america great again...
    Bechtel-Bohemian-Grove-Bush-Schwarzenegger-RFK-Jr
    Keep making things up. btw What color is the sky where you live?

  21. #258
    live stream

    12-2 est

    “You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!” - Andrew Jackson

  22. #259
    RFK Jr just came out strongly in favor of aggressive military support for Israel.

    For the longest time my theory has been don't trust any politician that won't call himself a libertarian.

  23. #260
    Not too keen on his pro war Israel stance. Might be staying home this election cycle
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

  24. #261
    he's only been on a few minutes so far.
    “You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!” - Andrew Jackson

  25. #262
    Ah, there it is. RFK Jr. job is to leach votes from the right and the LP to swing the election to the Dem nominee. It explains why he's been (astroturf) plugged so heavily as some sort of conservative/liberty minded candidate to date, even though his entire history is far left up until he suddenly came on the scene as anti-vax/covid and has been saying what the right and LP wants to hear. Ross Perot 2.0, iow, with a side of DJT (says the things but doesn't actually do it, thanks to Cambridge Analytica and other data-mining ops feeding the talking points). These Pres elections have been rigged for a long time.

    RFK Jr to run as Independent, end Dem campaign
    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/09/robe...-democrat.html


    Last edited by devil21; 10-09-2023 at 11:08 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  26. #263
    Just finished listening to Kennedy. Straight and to the point. Nothing earth shattering. Then Kucinich came on and tried to lead people in a cheer that didn't go over at all. lol

  27. #264
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    Just finished listening to Kennedy. Straight and to the point. Nothing earth shattering. Then Kucinich came on and tried to lead people in a cheer that didn't go over at all. lol
    The speech is worth watching, not because it's great but rather to observe how left slanted slogans and talking points were inserted into a supposedly "freedom and independence" rally. Kucinich's cheer thing was hilarious because it was so cringeworthy. Didn't anyone tell him that it's realllllllly hard to get mostly independent-minded people to chant together, as opposed to how easy it is to get hive-minded Dems (and flyover country MAGA types) to do it?
    Last edited by devil21; 10-09-2023 at 12:17 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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  29. #265
    I think it would have been smarter to go with an existing party like LP or Green. Ballot access in all states is going to be difficult for him.

  30. #266

    https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/s...66841583714415
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  31. #267
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/s...66841583714415
    Guessing McAdams will be deleting that tweet where he said RFK is his president.
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  32. #268
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Guessing McAdams will be deleting that tweet where he said RFK is his president.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
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    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

  33. #269
    bye now
    Do something Danke

  34. #270
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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