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    Trump indictment #1: Stormy Daniels hush money [Manhattan NYC]

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    Things seem to be moving pretty quickly, friends... the latest gun grab push which seems to have a fervor that outpaces past efforts, the war on reality, the impending collapse of the petrodollar, the possibility of another world war, and now this? It's a good time to take stock of your preparations - physical, and especially spiritual.

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    hard to believe that they are dumb enough to proceed with this bull$#@!. Rand was right, DA should be arrested for fraudulent charges and election interference.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Donald Trump indicted; 1st ex-president charged with crime
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-hus...c6379deae75faa
    Michael R. Sisak, Eric Tucker, & Colleen Long (30 March 2023)

    A Manhattan grand jury has voted to indict Donald Trump on charges involving payments made during the 2016 presidential campaign to silence claims of an extramarital sexual encounter, his lawyers said Thursday, producing the first criminal case against a former U.S. president and a jolt to Trump’s bid to retake the White House.

    Trump, who has denied any wrongdoing and has repeatedly attacked the investigation, called the indictment “political persecution” and predicted it would damage Democrats in 2024.

    The indictment is an extraordinary development after years of investigations into his business, political and personal dealings. It is likely to galvanize critics who say Trump lied and cheated his way to the top and embolden supporters who feel the Republican is being unfairly targeted by a Democratic prosecutor.

    In a statement, his lawyers, Susan Necheles and Joseph Tacopina, said: “He did not commit any crime. We will vigorously fight this political prosecution in court.”

    The district attorney’s investigation centered on money paid to porn actor Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal, whom he feared would go public with claims that they had extramarital sexual encounters with him.

    Trump was expected to surrender to authorities next week, though the details were still being worked out, according to a person familiar with the matter who was not authorized to discuss a matter that remained under seal.

    In bringing the charges, the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, is embracing an unusual case that had been investigated by two previous sets of prosecutors, both of which declined to take the politically explosive step of seeking Trump’s indictment.

    In the weeks leading up to the indictment, Trump railed about the investigation on social media and urged supporters to protest on his behalf, prompting tighter security around the Manhattan criminal courthouse.

    Trump faces other potential legal perils as he seeks to reassert control of the Republican Party and stave off a slew of one-time allies who are seeking or are likely to oppose him for the presidential nomination.

    The district attorney in Atlanta has for two years been investigating efforts by Trump and his allies to meddle in Georgia’s 2020 vote count. And a U.S. Justice Department special counsel is investigating Trump’s storage of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago home in Florida and his efforts to reverse his election loss.

    The fate of the hush-money investigation seemed uncertain until word got out in early March that Bragg had invited Trump to testify before a grand jury, a signal that prosecutors were close to bringing charges.

    Trump’s attorneys declined the invitation, but a lawyer closely allied with the former president briefly testified in an effort to undercut the credibility of Trump’s former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen.

    Late in the 2016 presidential campaign, Cohen paid Daniels $130,000 to keep her silent about what she says was a sexual encounter with Trump a decade earlier after they met at a celebrity golf tournament.

    Cohen was then reimbursed by Trump’s company, the Trump Organization, which also rewarded the lawyer with bonuses and extra payments logged internally as legal expenses. Over several months, Cohen said, the company paid him $420,000.

    Earlier in 2016, Cohen had also arranged for the publisher of the supermarket tabloid the National Enquirer to pay Playboy model Karen McDougal $150,000 to squelch her story of a Trump affair in a journalistically dubious practice known as “catch-and-kill.”

    The payments to the women were intended to buy secrecy, but they backfired almost immediately as details of the arrangements leaked to the news media.

    Federal prosecutors in New York ultimately charged Cohen in 2018 with violating federal campaign finance laws, arguing that the payments amounted to impermissible help to Trump’s presidential campaign. Cohen pleaded guilty to those charges and unrelated tax evasion counts and served time in federal prison.

    Trump was implicated in court filings as having knowledge of the arrangements, but U.S. prosecutors at the time balked at bringing charges against him. The Justice Department has a longtime policy that it is likely unconstitutional to prosecute a sitting president in federal court.

    Bragg’s predecessor as district attorney, Cyrus Vance Jr., then took up the investigation in 2019. While that probe initially focused on the hush money payments, Vance’s prosecutors moved on to other matters, including an examination of Trump’s business dealings and tax strategies.

    Vance ultimately charged the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer with tax fraud related to fringe benefits paid to some of the company’s top executives.

    The hush money matter became known around the D.A.’s office as the “zombie case,” with prosecutors revisiting it periodically but never opting to bring charges.

    Bragg saw it differently. After the Trump Organization was convicted on the tax fraud charges in December, he brought fresh eyes to the well-worn case, hiring longtime white-collar prosecutor Matthew Colangelo to oversee the probe and convening a new grand jury.

    Cohen became a key witness, meeting with prosecutors nearly two-dozen times, turning over emails, recordings and other evidence and testifying before the grand jury.

    Trump has long decried the Manhattan investigation as “the greatest witch hunt in history.” He has also lashed out at Bragg, calling the prosecutor, who is Black, racist against white people.

    The criminal charges in New York are the latest salvo in a profound schism between Trump and his hometown — a reckoning for a one-time favorite son who grew rich and famous building skyscrapers, hobnobbing with celebrities and gracing the pages of the city’s gossip press.

    Trump, who famously riffed in 2016 that he “could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody” and “wouldn’t lose voters,” now faces a threat to his liberty or at least his reputation in a borough where more than 75% of voters — many of them potential jurors — went against him in the last election.
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    Beautiful spring day in my World

    & yet the circus will circus

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    New York Grand Jury Indicts Donald Trump | SYSTEM UPDATE #63
    https://rumble.com/v2fispq--system-update-63.html

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    The “golden escalator “ narrative makes me want to puke

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Things seem to be moving pretty quickly, friends... the latest gun grab push which seems to have a fervor that outpaces past efforts, the war on reality, the impending collapse of the petrodollar, the possibility of another world war, and now this? It's a good time to take stock of your preparations - physical, and especially spiritual.
    I completely agree and dont believe for a minute that the least gun push is about your, public safety..

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    This least move agaisnt Trump
    Despite not caring to much about Trump.


    Seems to be political motivated just nothing more than trying to delay Trump from making Trump a Candidate in 2024.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    This least move agaisnt Trump
    Despite not caring to much about Trump.


    Seems to be political motivated just nothing more than trying to delay Trump from making Trump a Candidate in 2024.
    It's the time proven way to win an election. Jail your opponents.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    It's the time proven way to win an election. Jail your opponents.
    That would be a mistake considering Trump was the only person that visited Ohio after the disaster chemical in Ohio.

    Which the media now ignores it.
    They are trying very hard to make sure people forget it.



    All this while they are believing stories from a "Porn actress"

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    Well that pretty much seals the deal on who I'll be voting for in the next presidential election. Which will be the first time that I haven't voted for Ron Paul in a looooong time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dary View Post
    Well that pretty much seals the deal on who I'll be voting for in the next presidential election. Which will be the first time that I haven't voted for Ron Paul in a looooong time.
    Yeah, I was just coming in here to say that.

    Regardless of anything else, Trump is now the symbol of anti Marxism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I wonder how many people here on RPFs still think Trump is secretly a part of the elite club...
    Quote Originally Posted by Dary View Post
    Well that pretty much seals the deal on who I'll be voting for in the next presidential election. Which will be the first time that I haven't voted for Ron Paul in a looooong time.
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    Yeah, I was just coming in here to say that.

    Regardless of anything else, Trump is now the symbol of anti Marxism.
    Wouldn't be the most stupid psyop they ever ran, would it?

    Come on, man. It's not like he's going to step foot in a jail.
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    This just makes it even more obvious that he's never going to be president again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    He should call out the guard and let them know that if any fed tries to cross Trump's property line is subject to immediate arrest.

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    I’m giving Trump all my $$$ after this



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    Very good meme! He left off "Operation Warp Speed."
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Headline: “Donald Trump is officially a Ham Sandwich”.

    I gotta take some time to learn to make meme pics…
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    glorious drama
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    glorious drama
    A little Drama to whitewash banking crisis..

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    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    New York's City DAs should really be paying attention to the City's growing Crime rate issue instated of politically going after none leftist candidates.

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