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    After 20 years, Senate votes to repeal the AUMF!



    Senate votes to repeal Iraq war authorizations 20 years after U.S. invasion


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iraq-wa...ilitary-force/

    Washington — The Senate on Wednesday voted to repeal the legal justifications used to attack Iraq in 1991 and 2003, endorsing a rare bipartisan effort by Congress to revoke the authority to wage war from the executive branch just days after the 20-year anniversary of the start of the Iraq War.

    In a vote of 66 to 30, the Senate approved a resolution to repeal the 2002 authorization for the use of military force, or AUMF, that Congress adopted ahead of the March 2003 invasion by U.S. and allied troops, as well as the 1991 authorization for the first Gulf War.

    Proponents of repealing the authorizations say doing so is necessary to prevent future presidents from abusing their power, while not hamstringing current counterterrorism efforts.
    Against the wishes of McConnell...
    “I am opposed to Congress sunsetting any military force authorizations in the Middle East. Our terrorist enemies aren’t sunsetting their war against us. And when we deploy our servicemembers in harm’s way, we need to supply them with all the support and legal authorities that we can,” McConnell said. <more at link https://news.yahoo.com/mcconnell-com...122044844.html>

    EDIT: It appears this may not be a full repeal, but only a partial repeal of certain sections... Still, looks like a bit of progress.
    Last edited by CaptUSA; 03-29-2023 at 12:23 PM.
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    Alphabetical by Senator Name
    Baldwin (D-WI), Yea
    Barrasso (R-WY), Nay
    Bennet (D-CO), Yea
    Blackburn (R-TN), Nay
    Blumenthal (D-CT), Yea
    Booker (D-NJ), Yea
    Boozman (R-AR), Nay
    Braun (R-IN), Yea
    Britt (R-AL), Nay
    Brown (D-OH), Yea
    Budd (R-NC), Yea
    Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
    Capito (R-WV), Nay
    Cardin (D-MD), Yea
    Carper (D-DE), Yea
    Casey (D-PA), Yea
    Cassidy (R-LA), Yea
    Collins (R-ME), Yea
    Coons (D-DE), Not Voting
    Cornyn (R-TX), Nay
    Cortez Masto (D-NV), Yea
    Cotton (R-AR), Nay
    Cramer (R-ND), Yea
    Crapo (R-ID), Nay
    Cruz (R-TX), Nay
    Daines (R-MT), Yea
    Duckworth (D-IL), Yea
    Durbin (D-IL), Yea
    Ernst (R-IA), Nay
    Feinstein (D-CA), Not Voting
    Fetterman (D-PA), Not Voting
    Fischer (R-NE), Nay
    Gillibrand (D-NY), Yea
    Graham (R-SC), Nay
    Grassley (R-IA), Yea
    Hagerty (R-TN), Nay
    Hassan (D-NH), Yea
    Hawley (R-MO), Yea
    Heinrich (D-NM), Yea
    Hickenlooper (D-CO), Yea
    Hirono (D-HI), Yea
    Hoeven (R-ND), Yea
    Hyde-Smith (R-MS), Nay
    Johnson (R-WI), Nay
    Kaine (D-VA), Yea
    Kelly (D-AZ), Yea
    Kennedy (R-LA), Nay
    King (I-ME), Yea
    Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
    Lankford (R-OK), Nay
    Lee (R-UT), Yea
    Lujan (D-NM), Yea
    Lummis (R-WY), Yea
    Manchin (D-WV), Yea
    Markey (D-MA), Yea
    Marshall (R-KS), Yea
    McConnell (R-KY), Not Voting
    Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
    Merkley (D-OR), Yea
    Moran (R-KS), Yea
    Mullin (R-OK), Nay
    Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
    Murphy (D-CT), Yea
    Murray (D-WA), Yea
    Ossoff (D-GA), Yea
    Padilla (D-CA), Yea
    Paul (R-KY), Yea
    Peters (D-MI), Yea
    Reed (D-RI), Yea
    Ricketts (R-NE), Nay
    Risch (R-ID), Nay
    Romney (R-UT), Nay
    Rosen (D-NV), Yea
    Rounds (R-SD), Nay
    Rubio (R-FL), Nay
    Sanders (I-VT), Yea
    Schatz (D-HI), Yea
    Schmitt (R-MO), Yea
    Schumer (D-NY), Yea
    Scott (R-FL), Nay
    Scott (R-SC), Nay
    Shaheen (D-NH), Yea
    Sinema (I-AZ), Yea
    Smith (D-MN), Yea
    Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
    Sullivan (R-AK), Nay
    Tester (D-MT), Yea
    Thune (R-SD), Nay
    Tillis (R-NC), Nay
    Tuberville (R-AL), Nay
    Vance (R-OH), Yea
    Van Hollen (D-MD), Yea
    Warner (D-VA), Yea
    Warnock (D-GA), Yea
    Warren (D-MA), Yea
    Welch (D-VT), Yea
    Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
    Wicker (R-MS), Nay
    Wyden (D-OR), Yea
    Young (R-IN), Yea
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Thumbs up Rand Calls for Repeal of 2001 AUMF

    Dr. Rand Paul Applauds Senate Repeal of 1991 and 2002 AUMFs, Calls for Repeal of 2001 AUMF



    WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senator Rand Paul (R-KY), Ranking Member of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, applauded the Senate for voting to repeal the 1991 and 2002 Authorizations for Use of Military Force (AUMFs). Dr. Paul additionally called for the Senate to repeal the 2001 AUMF which would fully return war making powers to Congress.

    “The 2001 AUMF was passed days after the attacks of 9/11 to bring the terrorists responsible to justice. But presidential administrations of both parties have used the 9/11 AUMF to justify wars in over 20 countries, from Afghanistan to Libya, to Somalia, to Yemen. The 9/11 AUMF was never intended to authorize war, all the time, everywhere, forever,” said Dr. Paul. “War is sometimes necessary, but going to war should not be the decision of one person. Ending congressional authorization for the Gulf war, Iraq war and Afghanistan war returns the war power to the American people and their representatives.”

    The legislation formally repeals the congressional authorizations for the Gulf and Iraq wars, 32 and 20 years since they were first passed. Dr. Paul is a cosponsor of the effort. While this is a step in the right direction, repealing the 2001 AUMF would end the ability of the President alone to decide where and when to engage in hostilities as well as restore the ability of the people and Congress to debate whether to authorize military force.

    Dr. Paul introduced an amendment to the 1991 and 2002 AUMFs repeal that would additionally repeal the 2001 AUMF. The final vote tally was 9-86.

    Dr. Paul continues to be a leading voice in Congress on the need to repeal outdated AUMFs to prevent potential misuse by the executive branch. He has also raised concerns over the use of military force without congressional authorization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
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    Seriously, Matt. Same forum. SEARCH FUNCTION!

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...peal-the-AUMF!
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Seriously, Matt. Same forum. SEARCH FUNCTION!

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...peal-the-AUMF!
    Was not 'teh offical toady is the vote to repeal day' thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
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    So we still have 30 GOP neoconservative Senators, and the Democrats want more focus on Russia...


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    Screw every senator that voted to not repeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Alphabetical by Senator Name
    Baldwin (D-WI), Yea
    Barrasso (R-WY), Nay
    Bennet (D-CO), Yea
    Blackburn (R-TN), Nay
    Blumenthal (D-CT), Yea
    Booker (D-NJ), Yea
    Boozman (R-AR), Nay
    Braun (R-IN), Yea
    Britt (R-AL), Nay
    Brown (D-OH), Yea
    Budd (R-NC), Yea
    Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
    Capito (R-WV), Nay
    Cardin (D-MD), Yea
    Carper (D-DE), Yea
    Casey (D-PA), Yea
    Cassidy (R-LA), Yea
    Collins (R-ME), Yea
    Coons (D-DE), Not Voting
    Cornyn (R-TX), Nay
    Cortez Masto (D-NV), Yea
    Cotton (R-AR), Nay
    Cramer (R-ND), Yea
    Crapo (R-ID), Nay
    Cruz (R-TX), Nay
    Daines (R-MT), Yea
    Duckworth (D-IL), Yea
    Durbin (D-IL), Yea
    Ernst (R-IA), Nay
    Feinstein (D-CA), Not Voting
    Fetterman (D-PA), Not Voting
    Fischer (R-NE), Nay
    Gillibrand (D-NY), Yea
    Graham (R-SC), Nay
    Grassley (R-IA), Yea
    Hagerty (R-TN), Nay
    Hassan (D-NH), Yea
    Hawley (R-MO), Yea
    Heinrich (D-NM), Yea
    Hickenlooper (D-CO), Yea
    Hirono (D-HI), Yea
    Hoeven (R-ND), Yea
    Hyde-Smith (R-MS), Nay
    Johnson (R-WI), Nay
    Kaine (D-VA), Yea
    Kelly (D-AZ), Yea
    Kennedy (R-LA), Nay
    King (I-ME), Yea
    Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
    Lankford (R-OK), Nay
    Lee (R-UT), Yea
    Lujan (D-NM), Yea
    Lummis (R-WY), Yea
    Manchin (D-WV), Yea
    Markey (D-MA), Yea
    Marshall (R-KS), Yea
    McConnell (R-KY), Not Voting
    Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
    Merkley (D-OR), Yea
    Moran (R-KS), Yea
    Mullin (R-OK), Nay
    Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
    Murphy (D-CT), Yea
    Murray (D-WA), Yea
    Ossoff (D-GA), Yea
    Padilla (D-CA), Yea
    Paul (R-KY), Yea
    Peters (D-MI), Yea
    Reed (D-RI), Yea
    Ricketts (R-NE), Nay
    Risch (R-ID), Nay
    Romney (R-UT), Nay
    Rosen (D-NV), Yea
    Rounds (R-SD), Nay
    Rubio (R-FL), Nay
    Sanders (I-VT), Yea
    Schatz (D-HI), Yea
    Schmitt (R-MO), Yea
    Schumer (D-NY), Yea
    Scott (R-FL), Nay
    Scott (R-SC), Nay
    Shaheen (D-NH), Yea
    Sinema (I-AZ), Yea
    Smith (D-MN), Yea
    Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
    Sullivan (R-AK), Nay
    Tester (D-MT), Yea
    Thune (R-SD), Nay
    Tillis (R-NC), Nay
    Tuberville (R-AL), Nay
    Vance (R-OH), Yea
    Van Hollen (D-MD), Yea
    Warner (D-VA), Yea
    Warnock (D-GA), Yea
    Warren (D-MA), Yea
    Welch (D-VT), Yea
    Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
    Wicker (R-MS), Nay
    Wyden (D-OR), Yea
    Young (R-IN), Yea
    So stunning and bold. Worthy of 2024 votes, no doubt.
    Last edited by devil21; 03-30-2023 at 02:42 AM.
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