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Thread: The "TikTok ban" goes beyond TikTok. It is another huge step toward total control.

  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    As if NSA,CIA,FBI arent spying on the American people without any court warrants...

    I guess it's ok when our own government rapes us?

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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    It's controlled by the Chinese government, nobody disputes that. I believe that could be a real security and spying risk.

    I don't have a problem with that specific action, but the bill as a whole is crap and shouldn't be passed as written.

    What else do you think should be banned?

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    It's controlled by the Chinese government, nobody disputes that. I believe that could be a real security and spying risk.

    I don't have a problem with that specific action, but the bill as a whole is crap and shouldn't be passed as written.

    It's a social media app FFS. What the hell could they possibly spy on that makes a difference? You worried they’ll find out what kind of porn you’re watching and drop your social credit score or something? Or maybe they’ll get ahold of somebody’s shopping list! Oh noes!

    More importantly, government lacks anything close to the legitimate authority to ban it.
    Chris

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  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    It's a social media app FFS. What the hell could they possibly spy on that makes a difference? You worried they’ll find out what kind of porn you’re watching and drop your social credit score or something? Or maybe they’ll get ahold of somebody’s shopping list! Oh noes!

    More importantly, government lacks anything close to the legitimate authority to ban it.

    He's insane.



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  7. #65
    Some of you here are being crazy and divisive. I'm on your side. This should not be passed as is. That said there is nothing wrong with taking a specific targeted action against a threat. I'm done, not posting about this anymore.

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Some of you here are being crazy and divisive. I'm on your side. This should not be passed as is. That said there is nothing wrong with taking a specific targeted action against a threat. I'm done, not posting about this anymore.
    How soon till these loser polticans say that other platforms? and call it as a threat "to the American National Security"? because of the war in Ukraine? and anything to satisfy that dancing prick clown zelensky and their egos?

    Simply put the US govt doesn't want "competition"

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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    https://twitter.com/jfederations/sta...89253735133673

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I still feel the same about this as I did last year. I'm actually ok with banning tik tok specificlally by name for the stated reason that it's Chinese owned and there are spying concerns. As far as the rest of the language that is in this bill, go $#@! your self, not ok.
    @69360

    I have to agree with 69360 here, and that does not happen often.

    TikTok is mind poison, a propaganda arm of a communist nation that just 5 years ago unleashed a man made bio plague on this country and the entire world, killing millions of people including well over a million fellow US citizens.

    They have been held accountable in no way whatsoever.

    Banning their propaganda organ in the US as one small way to hold the ChiComs to account is fine with me, and with millions of other US citizens.

    So, in typical traitorous fashion, the pieces of $#@! that run this country write up legislation based on that outrage, and word it in such a way, that they will use this to shut down all criticism of them and their stinking $#@!ing oligarchy.

    Sounds about right. So I oppose this, and support Rand and Massie and others in opposition.

    Had enough YET?
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  13. #71
    https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/...13671104135185

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    @69360

    I have to agree with 69360 here, and that does not happen often.

    TikTok is mind poison, a propaganda arm of a communist nation that just 5 years ago unleashed a man made bio plague on this country and the entire world, killing millions of people including well over a million fellow US citizens.

    They have been held accountable in no way whatsoever.

    Banning their propaganda organ in the US as one small way to hold the ChiComs to account is fine with me, and with millions of other US citizens.

    So, in typical traitorous fashion, the pieces of $#@! that run this country write up legislation based on that outrage, and word it in such a way, that they will use this to shut down all criticism of them and their stinking $#@!ing oligarchy.

    Sounds about right. So I oppose this, and support Rand and Massie and others in opposition.

    Had enough YET?
    Banning their propaganda organ in the US as one small way to hold the ChiComs to account is fine with me, and with millions of other US citizens.

    By banning Tik Tok they will go after Telegram and others that is not ok nor fair competition..


    Banning their propaganda organ
    If anyone doing any propaganda that is far superior that would be the mainstream news media and no matter then making up headlines like shooting "Chinese balloons"
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 03-15-2024 at 12:13 AM.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Speaking for myself, I think people should probably be much more concerned about "Chinese controlled (or influenced)" politicians that everyone is forced to obey than "Chinese controlled (or influenced)" social media apps that no one is forced to use.

    But maybe that's just me.
    I agree.

    People should be highly concerned about Chinese financial influence and leverage in politics.
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  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    By banning Tik Tok they will go after Telegram and others that is not ok nor fair competition..

    If anyone doing any propaganda that is far superior that would be the mainstream news media and no matter then making up headlines like shooting "Chinese balloons"
    Yes I am well aware of these facts.

    That is why I am not in favor of this bill.

    Had it been a "clean" bill that did nothing more than shut down a CCP propaganda organ, then I would have been in favor of it.

    Hell, I would have been in favor of a retaliatory nuclear strike against the CCP once it became clear that they had committed the single largest mass murder in the history of mankind.

    The fact that the CCP have in no way been held accountable for this, especially when it has become clear that the COVID plague was just a beta test for something much worse, is infuriating to me.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Right. The only things that brings both sides together are war and the small hat brigade. Pro-white content has been banned for years and no one cares.

    How about a bill to force TikTok to have the Chinese algorithm where kids are constantly fed a stream of math, science and being a good patriot style content.

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes I am well aware of these facts.

    That is why I am not in favor of this bill.

    Had it been a "clean" bill that did nothing more than shut down a CCP propaganda organ, then I would have been in favor of it.

    Hell, I would have been in favor of a retaliatory nuclear strike against the CCP once it became clear that they had committed the single largest mass murder in the history of mankind.

    The fact that the CCP have in no way been held accountable for this, especially when it has become clear that the COVID plague was just a beta test for something much worse, is infuriating to me.
    when it has become clear that the COVID plague was just a beta test for something much worse, is infuriating to me.
    It wasn't China what happened with COVID considering u had these COVID vaccine companies that knew something like this would happen..


    It wasn't just China.

    dont forget that there are those biolabs/health labs operating in China and in countries like Ukraine that are funded an supported by Western Governments.
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 03-15-2024 at 09:02 AM.

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    It wasn't China what happened with COVID considering u had these COVID vaccine companies that knew something like this would happen..


    It wasn't just China.

    dont forget that there are those biolabs/health labs operating in China and in countries like Ukraine that are funded an supported by Western Governments.
    Yes, I am well aware of that as well.

    If I had my way, firing squads would be too good for those Quislings and traitors.

    But the fact remains, it was a Chinese state run facility that finished the gain of function work, released this virus on the world and then lied about it after the fact.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Some of you here are being crazy and divisive. I'm on your side. This should not be passed as is. That said there is nothing wrong with taking a specific targeted action against a threat banning a particular social media app because it is "Chinese controlled".
    Regarding the underlined bit: YES. THERE. IS.

    There is absolutely a hell of a lot wrong with doing such a thing.

    This has been repeatedly pointed out and explained to you, [1]

    But your only response to such criticisms is to whine about how the people who disagree with your liberty-destroying nonsense are being "crazy and divisive".

    You explicitly support the government banning a voluntarily-used social media app just because you don't like the country it's from (and thus by implication, you are naive enough to actually trust the government to apply whatever passes for "justice" in your imagination when they exercise and enforce such bans) - so, no, you are certainly not on "[my] side".

    ("With friends like this ..." )

    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I'm done, not posting about this anymore.
    I can't say I blame you. If I were in the position of having to defend freedom-hating nonsense such as "there is no problem with the government banning specific things I don't like", I wouldn't want to post about it either.



    [1] For just one example:
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    First up: banning any apps deemed by the feds to be "controlled by the Chinese government".

    Next up: banning any apps deemed by the feds to be "controlled by the Chinese Russian government" ... and then any apps deemed by the feds to be "controlled influenced by the Chinese government" ... and then apps deemed by the feds to be "controlled influenced by the Chinese Russian government" ... and so on ... and so on ... and on ... and on ...

    And there you and the feds will be, telling everyone "this is fine".
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 03-15-2024 at 10:43 AM.

  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, I am well aware of that as well.

    If I had my way, firing squads would be too good for those Quislings and traitors.

    But the fact remains, it was a Chinese state run facility that finished the gain of function work, released this virus on the world and then lied about it after the fact.
    They were disappointed that their bat virus "gain of function" didn't kill enough Slavic people in the Balkans nor in Eastern Europe. It might have being Chinese state run but it likely was running not within Chinese govt authority.

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Speaking for myself, I think people should probably be much more concerned about "Chinese controlled (or influenced)" politicians that everyone is forced to obey than "Chinese controlled (or influenced)" social media apps that no one is forced to use.

    But maybe that's just me.
    I agree.

    People should be highly concerned about Chinese financial influence and leverage in politics.
    I didn't say "highly", I said "more ... than".



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    The 100+ Republicans and fake freedom advocates that pushed this bill in the House should be voted out....
    "voted out", yes, ahem
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  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    I didn't say "highly", I said "more ... than".
    I think highly.

    Imagine a world in which our politicians are indebted to Chinese interests to the tune of tens of millions of dollars or more.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  27. #83
    Voting will save us!

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    https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status...31398865342941



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    https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/...41414667358405



  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Imagine a world in which our politicians are indebted to Chinese interests to the tune of tens of millions of dollars or more.
    Imagine...

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  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, I am well aware of that as well.

    If I had my way, firing squads would be too good for those Quislings and traitors.

    But the fact remains, it was a Chinese state run facility that finished the gain of function work, released this virus on the world and then lied about it after the fact.
    Must be why the US troops from Fort Detrick all had the virus before they even set foot in that Wuhan hotel.
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  32. #88
    https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...92526523777065





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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...92526523777065


    0:21
    Rep. Dan Crenshaw is lying through his face.

    This is someone who supports Ukraine more than the American citizens.

    dont you just love the hypocrisy of these Fraud Republicans?

  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Imagine...

    Pennies in comparison.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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