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    Thumbs down This Bill about Banning Tik Tok Because of Children is about Russia/China, India

    There are 108+Republican and Democrats traitors.

    The same polticans that scream so much about "Freedom,freedom the ones on the right" haven't done anything to prove that they are about freedom.

    This bill that they had helped to push to pass in the house just shows that the "Right" isnt about being a warrior on freedom or free values.

    The Republicans in the House pushing to ban Tik Tok and likely others isnt about protecting the Children.


    Its about the American govt's adversaries.

    They dont want competition from other countries whatever that might be China, India, Russia.

    This ban bill has nothing to do with protecting the children on Tik Tok. Its about not allowing independent social media platforms being allowed in Western Countries.


    The only reason they want this app being banned isnt because of the dangouers of the content that is on the Tik Tok Platform but rather they want to be banned because the platform was made by Chinese Devs.
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 03-13-2024 at 05:17 PM.



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    China is not our friend.

    China is not a friend because the US govt wants a war with China.
    Now they want several apps banned because they dont want a fair competition with their "adversaries "


    Instated accuse their foreign adversaries and platforms of being a threat to the national security.
    https://twitter.com/GovGianforte/sta...60503798640956

    TikTok and all apps tied to foreign adversaries are a national security risk.
    Yet somehow FB and Twitter can run and operate freely without any competition?
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 03-13-2024 at 05:31 PM.

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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    From a state that happened other platforms.



    But Using Facebook,Twitter "echo Chamber"on Govt phones is fair competition....
    "similar apps be banned from government devices"

    In all fairness, a govt or employer provided device should only have work software installed on it. There shouldn't be any other apps loaded.
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    Just a note, that is not really Vivek's account...it appears that the user had to add "parody" to make it more noticeable.


    https://twitter.com/VivekRammaswamy/...98091934777836
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 03-13-2024 at 09:11 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Motherfuckers.

    The Party of Freedom "Republicans" that are crazed war mongers..



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    I still feel the same about this as I did last year. I'm actually ok with banning tik tok specificlally by name for the stated reason that it's Chinese owned and there are spying concerns. As far as the rest of the language that is in this bill, go $#@! your self, not ok.

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    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

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    The truth is worse.

    The Republican House passing the TikTok ban is all about shutting down support for Palestine right now, it is backed by The Lobby. TikTok is free speech, even more than "X" or the lesser platforms. Rubio and Warner push it because they don't want independent coverage of the UFOs and military movements. Warner and Rubio are in charge of the UFO stuff, with Warner being the true manager, and Rubio the go-along student. They are Deep State all the way. The Deep State does not want Americans to be able to broadcast and share real events in real time, or organize assemblies, or have the ability to make important, challenging truths go viral to millions in minutes. That's too much power in the people's hands. When the Tyranny Grid goes full swing, it needs to control all social media so that people cannot point out and resist implementation.

    If there is a False Flag, whether it be fake weather like Maui and "wildfires" or a mass shooting or bomb, they don't want average people to be able to capture and share reality. They want full control over perceived reality, as part of their full spectrum domestic operations.

    Schumer is in no hurry but is probably going along with it, but that's really about not banning TikTok but getting it into managed hands, so that the Chinese can't decide who to sell it to if they are forced to divest of it. This means getting it into certain hands, not allowing Kevin O'Leary to buy it. Trump is doing a 180 on the issue, while he was Potus, he was Pro-Ban and/or putting it in "American" hands. Now, he's just trying to be Mr. Popular, because it's easy, he is not in power, it's a win-win to appear defending free speech, whereas the truth is far different.

    If he was in power, he'd be right there with the Deep State puppets, crying "China Bad", like before. Trump happens to get donations from powerful Israelis in Oracle like CEO Safra Catz, and Jeffrey Yass the Israeli billionaire who owns 15% of ByteDance, TikTok's parent co. And it's Trump who got them that, by forcing the Chinese to take on "American" firms. Basically, Oracle cloud hosts TT in the US thanks to Trump, who set it up for Ellison. Which means Israel and The Lobby runs cloud operations right now. Trump is still 100% property of the Israelis. He just took millions from Miriam Adelson. His Israeli donors already have a foot in the door with Bytedance/ TT (thanks to him in 2020 pushing its US ops into Ellison's co), and he wants to wait until he is Potus, then he will transfer it into Israeli hands totally, as soon as he can pay them off, he will flip and say it has to be "American", meaning Israeli. Everything I just wrote is 100% searchable, just search the terms and it's right there, but people still don't understand. I mean seriously, it's all right there, but nobody talks about it. These are extremely crafty, sly and educated people running circles around a juvenile, simpleton population.
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I'm actually ok with banning tik tok specificlally by name for the stated reason that it's Chinese owned and there are spying concerns. As far as the rest of the language that is in this bill, go $#@! your self, not ok.
    Sorry, but if you're "actually okay" with letting the camel's nose in the tent, then you've got no business bitching about it when the rest of the camel follows.

    The government shouldn't be banning $#@! - except for (more) government.
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 03-14-2024 at 10:29 AM.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Sorry, but if you're "actually okay" with letting the camel's nose in the tent, then you've got no business bitching about it when the rest of the camel follows.

    The government shouldn't be banning $#@! - except for (more) government.
    Sorry, I think the reasoning behind banning just tik tok, by name for the reason given is fine. The rest is crap. In other words, I don't support this bill as written. There is nothing inherently wrong with that position.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Sorry, I think the reasoning behind banning just tik tok, by name for the reason given is fine. The rest is crap. In other words, I don't support this bill as written. There is nothing inherently wrong with that position.

    So, authoritarianism is A-OK so long as it’s your brand of authoritarianism?

    SMGDH

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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    //
    What doesn't Izrael control at this point.

    If not directly, like tiktok, indirectly.

    People are praising the Argentinian, Chile, guy for privatizing a bunch of stuff, it was all basically sold to Izrael...
    Last edited by unknown; 03-14-2024 at 06:37 PM.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    TikTok is free speech, even more than "X" or the lesser platforms.
    Absolute bull$#@!..

    Just because they allow pro-Palestinian content doesn't mean they are "more free speech", they just boosted speech on that one issue.

    X allowed pro-Palestinean content and they allow free speech to a very large extent, what is X banning currently that Tik Tok doesn't??

    Tik Tok banned a channel for posting a video where they showed data that the most depressed demographic of American society is working women.. free speech my ass.. they boost/promote all kinds of transgender and socialist nonsense and videos that break young people's brains. It's not just what a platform bans that makes it a bad platform, it's what they boost.

    Tik Tok is horrible. This bill is total crap, but if they made a case in court, like Rand Paul says, and forced them to divest to a company like Rumble it would probably be for the better. If the divest to Facebook, I don't know that it would make all that much difference.
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    What doesn't Izrael control at this point.

    If not directly, like tiktok, indirectly.

    People ate praising the Argentinian, Chile, guy for privatizing a bunch of stuff, it was all basically sold to Izrael...
    privatization is how they gobble up the world. heck, it's what they did to our national currency itself. privatized it.
    then it was just a matter of time, and we have arrived.
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    So, authoritarianism is A-OK so long as it’s your brand of authoritarianism?

    SMGDH

    Wanna know one big reason why the political wing of the so-called “liberty movement” suffers one humiliating defeat after another, and has done for the too many decades to even bother counting? Because so many of its nembers aren’t even aiming atvanything resembling liberty to begin with.
    It's controlled by the Chinese government, nobody disputes that. I believe that could be a real security and spying risk.

    I don't have a problem with that specific action, but the bill as a whole is crap and shouldn't be passed as written.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Sorry, I think the reasoning behind banning just tik tok, by name for the reason given is fine. The rest is crap.
    And like I said (and which you, of course, failed to address) is that it WILL NOT stop with just the "camel's nose" of TikTok.

    In fact, it won't even start with just TikTok (as you yourself acknowledge when you say "the rest is crap").

    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    There is nothing inherently wrong with that position.
    Of course there is.

    Don't like TikTok? Then don't use it - and butt the hell out of other peoples' business while you're at it.

    Problem solved.
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 03-14-2024 at 06:32 PM.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    It's controlled by the Chinese government, nobody disputes that. I believe that could be a real security and spying risk.

    I don't have a problem with that specific action, but the bill as a whole is crap and shouldn't be passed as written.
    As if NSA,CIA,FBI arent spying on the American people without any court warrants...

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    It's controlled by the Chinese government, [so] I don't have a problem with [banning it].
    First up: banning any apps deemed by the feds to be "controlled by the Chinese government".

    Next up: banning any apps deemed by the feds to be "controlled by the Chinese Russian government" ... and then any apps deemed by the feds to be "controlled influenced by the Chinese government" ... and then apps deemed by the feds to be "controlled influenced by the Chinese Russian government" ... and so on ... and so on ... and on ... and on ...

    And there you and the feds will be, telling everyone "this is fine".
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 03-14-2024 at 06:16 PM.



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    Meanwhile:

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    But for some reason, I'm supposed be concerned about a "Chinese controlled" (boogity-boogity!) social media app that no one is forced to use?

    Yeah, no.

    $#@! that.

    $#@! that with a rusty spike.

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    First up: banning any apps deemed by the feds to be "controlled by the Chinese government".

    Next up: banning any apps deemed by the feds to be "controlled by the Chinese Russian government" ... and then any apps deemed by the feds to be "controlled influenced by the Chinese government" ... and then apps deemed by the feds to be "controlled influenced by the Chinese Russian government" ... and so on ... and so on ... and on ... and on ...

    And there you'll be, telling everyone "this is fine".
    They will be banning apps from India, Russia,China because those countries are "adversary" to the "American International based orders"

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I'm actually ok with banning tik tok specificlally by name for the stated reason that it's Chinese owned and there are spying concerns. As far as the rest of the language that is in this bill, go $#@! your self, not ok.
    Sorry, but if you're "actually okay" with letting the camel's nose in the tent, then you've got no business bitching about it when the rest of the camel follows.

    The government shouldn't be banning $#@! - except for (more) government.
    Speaking for myself, I think people should probably be much more concerned about "Chinese controlled (or influenced)" politicians that everyone is forced to obey than "Chinese controlled (or influenced)" social media apps that no one is forced to use.

    But maybe that's just me.
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 03-14-2024 at 06:26 PM.

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    privatization is how they gobble up the world. heck, it's what they did to our national currency itself. privatized it.
    then it was just a matter of time, and we have arrived.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm no socialist but something seems intuitively wrong when the same few handful of people continue to strengthen their grip over the entire planet.

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