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    The "TikTok ban" goes beyond TikTok. It is another huge step toward total control.

    See this great Twitter thread by the LP's Mises Caucus:

    https://twitter.com/LPMisesCaucus/st...34790026555394

    But sure, let's talk about Trump and DeSantis and wokeness.

    The RESTRICT Act is not limited to just TikTok. It gives the government authority over all forms of communication domestic or abroad and grants powers to “enforce any mitigation measure to address any risk” to national security now and in any “potential future transaction”.

    For the purpose of this bill a “Transaction” is anything, by anyone.

    So what happens if you are designated a national security threat? What can they access of yours to confirm it? Everything.
    Notice the preemptive attack on quantum encryption in there, too.

    It also allows the Director of National Intelligence and Secretary of Commerce the authority to universally designate new “Foreign Adversaries” without notifying congress and a 15 day window to notify the president. It also requires a joint resolution of Congress to overturn.

    If you recall from before, “Foreign Individuals” can now also be US citizens that are deemed a national security threat. Once designated, the bill grants authority to enforce any action deemed necessary to mitigate the threat, with no due process and few limits on punishments.

    After the federal government has detained you without due process to mitigate the “immediate threat” you pose, what kind of punishments await you in court? $1,000,000 fine, 20 years in prison and forfeiture of everything you own.

    This act also grants unlimited hiring power to positions of enforcement, unlimited funds with little or no review and immunity to FOIA.
    Sickening, right under our noses apparently. This is basically the new Patriot Act.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

    I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    See this great Twitter thread by the LP's Mises Caucus:

    https://twitter.com/LPMisesCaucus/st...34790026555394

    But sure, let's talk about Trump and DeSantis and wokeness.



    Sickening, right under our noses apparently. This is basically the new Patriot Act.
    With Democrats leading the charge now on this, it became obvious what the agenda was.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    With Democrats leading the charge now on this, it became obvious what the agenda was.
    Yeah I definitely heard the deep state media trying to promote it.

    Yet they won't say what it actually is, just something scary about Chinese people with our data and that people supported it in a poll, so obviously this is "democratic" or something.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

    I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.

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    Just bar the company tik tok by name from doing business within the US if it is such a threat. No blanket policy is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Just bar the company tik tok by name from doing business within the US if it is such a threat. No blanket policy is needed.
    It was never really about TikTok though. It's about American companies and the NSA having our data and our money. It's about Big Tech and total surveillance.

    Also, TikTok isn't a threat. Just don't use it. While I would be fine putting some business restrictions on it, the Internet cannot be touched as it is one of the last hopes for freedom.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

    I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.

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    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I don't often watch Tucker's show but sometimes he hits it out of the park, and this is one of those times.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

    I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.



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    Senate Anti-TikTok Bill Is 'Patriot Act For Technology'

    Senate Anti-TikTok Bill Is 'Patriot Act For Technology'



    Like the PATRIOT Act after 9/11, the RESTRICT Act introduced in the Senate is using a "crisis" to decimate our core Constitutional liberties. The bill gives any presidential administration the power to simply end any social media company it deems a "national security threat." Also today: US pressuring Europe to break with China - will it work?
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Lets cut to the summary because people have the attention span of goldfish.

    Use a VPN: 20 YEARS IN PRISON
    Use a Foreign App: 20 YEARS IN PRISON
    Express Free Speech: 20 YEARS IN PRISON
    Accused of DISINFORMATION: 20 YEARS IN PRISON

    PER INCIDENT

    NO JUDGE. NO JURY. NO TRIAL. DO NOT COLLECT $200 DOLLARS, GO DIRECTLY TO PRISON.

    All it takes is an ACCUSATION because THERE IS NO TRIAL. THERE IS NO RIGHT TO SELF DEFENSE. THERE IS NO COURT.

    In the end, the result is DO NOT SPEAK PERIOD. For that is the ONLY way you may remain in compliance with the law.

    ---

    This is NOT "just the next attack", or an Incremental Step, THIS IS THE FINAL STEP.

    IF THEY ACCUSE YOU, YOU ARE DEAD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Yeah, well, you've already collected as many flies with vinegar as you're gonna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
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    Massie: 'So-called TikTok ban is a trojan horse.'

    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...25209064558954
    The so-called TikTok ban is a trojan horse.

    The President will be given the power to ban WEB SITES, not just Apps.

    The person breaking the new law is deemed to be the U.S. (or offshore) INTERNET HOSTING SERVICE or App Store, not the “foreign adversary.”

    https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek...%20Updated.pdf

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    Video - Massie - Wed AM - 3/13/24 - TikTok Ban


    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...t-trojan-horse

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    Passed. Moves to Senate.

    It needed at least 2/3 of the vote to pass.
    Update (1040ET): The House has passed the TikTok divestment bill by a vote of 352-65-1.
    There were 15 Republicans who voted against it, and 50 Democrats.

    It heads to the Senate next, where it already enjoys the support of Senate Intel Chair Mark Warner (D-VA) and Vice Chair Marco Rubio (R-FL).

    "We were encouraged by today’s strong bipartisan vote... and look forward to working together to get this bill passed through the Senate and signed into law," the pair said in a statement...

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...t-trojan-horse

    https://twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/...24695838445612

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    https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1767942725888872460

    Sean Davis @seanmdav

    This TikTok bill language is so broad and poorly drafted that it will absolutely be used to shut down media the U.S. government doesn’t like, just like the Patriot Act was used to spy on innocent Americans who hadn’t done anything wrong.

    Remember how the entire U.S. intelligence community moved to have the New York Post banned for reporting on Hunter Biden’s laptop under the guise that it was all Russian disinformation? The U.S. intel community knew the laptop was legit and authentic, but they lied about it anyway and used their lies as a pretext to ban media outlets they didn’t like.

    Remember how the same corrupt intel community similarly fabricated and spread the Russian collusion hoax, and how its minions accused anyone who accurately reported on the hoax of being Russian stooges? The language of this TikTok bill would give those same crooks and liars the authority to shut down and criminally prosecute and penalize media outlets by merely accusing them of being “subject to the direction” of an adversary. What does that even mean?

    How do you think a government which accuses anyone who criticizes its corruption or garbage foreign policy of being a traitor will use that language? Having lived through the Iraq WMD hoax, and the Russiagate hoax, and the COVID natural origins hoax, and J6, and the myriad Ukraine hoaxes, do you think your government will judiciously use that language as narrowly as possible, or do you think it will use that language to persecute its domestic political opponents?

    At this very moment, @FDRLST, @DailyWire, and @KenPaxtonTX are having to sue the U.S. State Department for illegally using its authority to combat foreign propaganda against its domestic political opponents. Our own government is already abusing laws and programs that exist only to target foreign media to instead target American media outlets for critically reporting on misdeeds by the U.S. government.

    This isn’t a theoretical or academic discussion. For decades, our government has given itself massive new police power, ostensibly targeted at foreign enemies, only to immediately weaponize those new powers against the American people.

    What on earth makes you think these same people will magically stop abusing the new powers they keep giving themselves?
    ...
    https://congress.gov/bill/118th-cong...bill/7521/text
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/1768055398773252144
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    https://twitter.com/The_Nomad_News/s...51232164118892
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #62:

    Explained: Dangerous New “Anti-TikTok” Law Could Censor ALL Social Media | SYSTEM UPDATE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh5NHmMutQw
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 03-28-2023 at 02:36 PM.

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    https://twitter.com/LPMisesCaucus/st...42330268921858
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Why don't they name the jew?
    Look at the $#@!ing facts man.
    >_<

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    https://twitter.com/IPD_Gaming/statu...50164756160513

    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Yeah, well, you've already collected as many flies with vinegar as you're gonna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    https://twitter.com/IPD_Gaming/statu...50164756160513

    Was Lindsey drunk?

    And Watters went in the wrong direction by asking if they would "clean it up". There's no way it will be "cleaned up", but it gives them all an excuse to pass it because "it was cleaned up".
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #64:

    Next Patriot Act? Rand Paul Blocks Authoritarian “Anti-TikTok” Bill | SYSTEM UPDATE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeGEpdFGX5g
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 04-02-2023 at 04:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #64:

    WATCH: Lindsey Graham Flustered—Can’t Defend His Own Censorship Bill | SYSTEM UPDATE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1fs_CaICMw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #64:

    WATCH: Lindsey Graham Flustered—Can’t Defend His Own Censorship Bill | SYSTEM UPDATE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1fs_CaICMw
    From the Same Warmongering Senator who said to Iran "Bring it On we arent afraid of losing"
    Treating wars like a video game or action movies.

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    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #283:

    Right-Wing TikTok Star John McEntee on TikTok Ban, the Trump Administration, and More
    https://rumble.com/v51mirl-right-win...stration-.html
    {Glenn Greenwald | 14 June 2024}


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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Yeah, well, you've already collected as many flies with vinegar as you're gonna.

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    Even the socialist crazies I know are outraged by this. Hopefully, it blows up in Congress' face.

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