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    House votes on Syria war resolution to remove troops

    Rep Gaetz Slams Forever Wars, Issues Statement on Final House Vote Regarding War Powers Resolution to Remove U.S. Troops from Syria



    Washington, D.C. – U.S. Congressman Matt Gaetz (FL-01) released the following statement regarding the final vote by the House of Representatives on his resolution, H. Con. Res. 21, the Syrian War Powers Resolution. The privileged War Powers Resolution, if passed, would have directed President Joe Biden to remove all troops from Syria. Unfortunately, the resolution was not adopted by a vote of 103-321, with support from 47 Republicans and 56 Democrats.

    “There is no role for the United States of America in Syria. We are not a Middle Eastern power. We have tried to build a democracy out of sand, blood, and Arab militias. Time and again, the work we do does not reduce chaos. Oftentimes, it causes chaos – the very chaos that then subsequently leads to terrorism. While today’s vote may have failed, my fight to end forever wars and bring our troops home has only just begun,” said Congressman Gaetz.

    Full replay of Rep. Gaetz’s closing debate remarks on the House floor earlier today can be found HERE with a rough transcript below:


    https://rumble.com/v2c9wj0-gaetz-the...-in-syria.html








    ROUGHT TRANSCRIPT OF CLOSING DEBATE REMARKS:

    Rep. Matt Gaetz: “Much of the discussion today is revolved around whether or not withdrawing from Syria will ignite some new ISIS caliphate. We've pointed out time and again Inspector General's reports saying that that is unlikely, but I'm not entirely sure that us having troops in Syria deters ISIS more than it is a recruiting tool for ISIS.

    Moreover, President Trump said that if Russia wanted to kill ISIS, we should let him, and I think there is wisdom in that. Both Assad and Turkey are in stronger positions today to put downward pressure on ISIS, and maybe if we weren't given weapons to people shooting at Assad, Assad would have every incentive to be able to engage ISIS in a way to ensure that it doesn't come back.

    We have to also acknowledge Syria and Iraq are the two countries on the planet Earth where we have done the most to fund ISIS. We give weapons to these so-called moderate rebels, which I actually thought was an oxymoron, and it turns out they're not that moderate. Sometimes the rebels we fund to go fight Assad turn around and raise the ISIS flag. And so it's quite silly to be saying we have to withdraw to stop ISIS when it is our very presence in Syria in some cases that has been the best gift to ISIS.

    There are groups like Al-Nusra and associated entities that are like our frenemies when they're in Syria, and then they cross over the border into Iraq and they become full-fledged jihadist posing as so-called threat to the homeland.
    There are 1,500 different groups in Syria. So today's friend is tomorrow's ISIS. There's no real clear delineation as to what the "enduring defeat of ISIS" means. Like do we have to keep 900 Americans in Syria until the last heartbeat stops of the last person who holds some sympathy for ISIS? I would certainly hope not. It would mean we would have to be there forever.

    Israel has made their deal with Russia to be protected. The Kurds have made their peace with Assad to be protected. What we see among this quagmire is there's really not a role for the United States of America in Syria. We are not a Middle Eastern power. We have tried this time and again to build a democracy out of sand and blood and Arab militias, and time and again, the work we do does not reduce chaos.

    Oftentimes, it causes chaos – the very chaos that then subsequently leads to terrorism. My colleagues, my staff who've served in Syria, my constituents tell me that often these anti-ISIS raids are just raids of local thugs and drug dealers who have some cousin that's in ISIS, and it is not appropriate to put Americans at risk.

    Often our Americans are guarding these oil fields, where the Iranians are sending kamikaze drones. And I am shocked that we have not had escalatory accident or even more casualties for our U.S. servicemembers.

    And so if this is all one big Georgetown School of Foreign Service essay exam about great power competition in Syria, you go tell that to the parents of the Americans who have to sleep tonight in Syria, who have to guard oil fields with Iranian drones coming at them – that they're necessary to preserve the balance of power.

    That is not true. The Kurds have an opportunity to pave their path. Let's pave ours. And if we're so worried about threats to the homeland, how about we actually focus on our true point of vulnerability, which is not the emergence of some caliphate, it's the fact that terrorists are crossing our southern border on a daily, weekly, monthly basis. We seem far less concerned about that, and we undeniably should be.

    My colleagues, I asked you to support this resolution to reassert Congress's power to speak on these matters of war and peace. So often, we come to the floor and we debate frivolities

    This is one of the most important things we can be talking about: how we use the credibility of our fellow Americans, how we spend America's treasure, how we spill the blood of our bravest patriots. We have stained the deserts in the Middle East with enough American blood. It is time to bring our service members home.

    I encourage my colleagues to support the resolution and yield back the balance my time.”

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    "A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst



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    Too bad it won't make it pass the Senate. Even if it did Biden would just veto the resolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Too bad it won't make it pass the Senate. Even if it did Biden would just veto the resolution.
    It didn't make it past the House.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It didn't make it past the House.
    Its good to see the 47 Republicans that tried to vote for it.
    They still use that terrorist whataboutism card.

    "We are in Syria, Because ISIS..

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    47 Republicans and 56 Democrats.

    2 sides working together on something...these numbers can grow

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    always good to be reminded most congresspeople have no idea what the Consitutition says

    and couldn't care less, either.
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    Gotta keep on killing them poor people on the other side of the planet and moving the pieces around the chessboard on behalf of the oligarchy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Gotta keep on killing them poor people on the other side of the planet and moving the pieces around the chessboard on behalf of the oligarchy...
    Addition: stealing what’s under the sand, land etc. $$$$



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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Addition: stealing what’s under the sand, land etc. $$$$
    Yep.

    It would really be something to be alive in 1000 years to get to read the history of the American Empire, and how it is portrayed to future generations.

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    I hate to say it, but the American people only put pressure on Washington to bring troops home if the body bags start piling up. We still have 660 troops in Kosovo. Some of those troops likely weren't even born when that conflict started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I hate to say it, but the American people only put pressure on Washington to bring troops home if the body bags start piling up. We still have 660 troops in Kosovo. Some of those troops likely weren't even born when that conflict started.
    I've said this before and I'll repeat it now. Eliminating the draft was key to enabling perpetual war. Like you said, if people who didn't volunteer were coming home in body bags, you can bet that the left would rediscover the anti-war movement in no time flat.

    The left curls up in a ball and cries in a safe space if someone says something they don't like. Imagine the crying if the draft was re-instituted and these fragile persons were sent to war. As a matter of fact, this is a good argument for bringing back the draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I've said this before and I'll repeat it now. Eliminating the draft was key to enabling perpetual war. Like you said, if people who didn't volunteer were coming home in body bags, you can bet that the left would rediscover the anti-war movement in no time flat.

    The left curls up in a ball and cries in a safe space if someone says something they don't like. Imagine the crying if the draft was re-instituted and these fragile persons were sent to war. As a matter of fact, this is a good argument for bringing back the draft.
    Sad but true. Did you hear Zelinksy say the other day that the only way he can win in Ukraine is if American sons and daughters start dying there? I bet you won't hear that coming from the Biden administration any time soon.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I hate to say it, but the American people only put pressure on Washington to bring troops home if the body bags start piling up. We still have 660 troops in Kosovo. Some of those troops likely weren't even born when that conflict started.
    They have a US base in Kosovo to this day for geopolitical interests its never about democracy.
    They want to weaken Serbia.

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    USA blacks want reparations and land but do not suffer.

    Quite the contrary.

    Syrians, Iraqis, where are their reparations?

    These people truly suffered at USA hands. They are LIVING.

    Syria did nothing to us. Iraq did nothing to us.
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    Week in Review: Bipartisan Populists Unite Against War in Syria, China Brokers Historic Iran/Saudi Arabia Peace, & More, w/ Michael Tracey | SYSTEM UPDATE #53
    https://rumble.com/v2cjmue-system-update-show-53.html


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