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    What is the story behind George Alan Kelly?

    Held on a million dollars bail because he shot a trespassing migrant invader???

    Something is missing here.

    Or maybe it's just another escalation in the war on white people, I don't know.

    And not for nothing, but where the $#@! are they graduating people from "journalism" school these days?

    That headline says the dead migrant invader is being held on bail.



    Migrant shot dead by Arizona rancher held on $1M for murder charge was deported several times before: report

    https://news.yahoo.com/migrant-shot-...LKhc62-K2VnUxW

    Danielle Wallace

    Wed, February 8, 2023 at 1:35 PM EST·3 min read

    A migrant, who was allegedly shot and killed by an elderly Arizona rancher whom a judge ordered held on $1 million bail despite pleas that his wife is left alone on their property near the U.S.-Mexico border, had been deported several times before the deadly encounter, according to records obtained by the Daily Mail.

    George Alan Kelly, 73, was charged with first-degree murder in connection to the shooting of a man authorities believe to be 48-year-old Gabriel Cuen-Butimea, based on the Mexican voter registration card he carried. The Santa Cruz County Sheriff's Office in Nogales, Arizona, said Cuen-Butimea’s body was found with one gunshot wound about 100 to 150 yards from Kelly’s home on Jan. 30.

    The sheriff’s office confirmed Monday that Kelly had been arrested last week.

    The shooting reportedly happened on Kelly’s Vermilion Mountain Ranch in Kino Springs.

    According to Nogales International, Kelly pleaded with a judge to reduce his $1 million bail because his wife is now left to fend for herself on the cattle ranch they share. The judge declined Kelly's request.

    "She's there by herself," Kelly reportedly said at a court hearing. "Nobody to take care of her, the livestock or the ranch. And I'm not going anywhere. I can't come up with a million dollars."

    "Federal court records show Cuen-Butimea has had a history of illegal border crossings and deportations in and around Nogales, with the most recent documented case in 2016," the Daily Mail reported. Fox News Digital reached out to the Santa Cruz County Sheriff's Office Thursday to confirm those records, but did not immediately hear back before publication.

    The Mail reported that Santa Cruz Chief Deputy Gerardo Castillo declined to comment on Cuen-Butimea’s immigration status, claiming that it has not yet been confirmed.

    Castillo reportedly said investigators are still working to confirm the circumstances of the shooting as well as a potential motive, adding that it does not appear Kelly knew the victim.

    Citing a dispatch report, Nogales International reported that the Santa Cruz County Sheriff's Office first received a call about 2:40 p.m. Jan. 30 from U.S. Border Patrol agents relaying details of a "possible active shooter" in the area of Sagebrush Road. Border Patrol said someone at the scene, identified as "Allen," described a "group of people running" and said he was "unsure if he was getting shot at as well."

    By about 5:50 p.m., sheriff’s deputies received another report about shots fired at the property. By 6:42 p.m., authorities recovered the body of a "deceased Hispanic male" and said he had no weapons on him at the time, Castillo told the outlet. Investigators reportedly collected two assault-style rifles from Kelly's property to determine if either was used in the shooting.

    Kelly’s neighbor, Maria Castillo, told KOLD News 13 that it is not usual to see migrants crossing the border and entering town. Cuen-Butimea lived just south of the border in Nogales, Mexico.

    Kelly, who remained held at Santa Cruz County Jail ahead of a Wednesday court appearance, reportedly doubles as a self-published fiction author writing about ranch life in the border region. One book available as an Amazon e-book is titled "Far Beyond the Border Fence" and is described as "bringing the Mexican border/drug conflict into the 21st century," according to the Mail.
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    Probably intentionally written to confuse the reader. The less a person understands the easier it is to control them. I read nothing about the alleged reason the rancher killed the guy.

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    In the absence of further details, this sounds like a job for jury nullification.

    And not for nothing, but where the $#@! are they graduating people from "journalism" school these days?

    That headline says the dead migrant invader is being held on bail.
    Another sign o' the times. Journalists and editors are people whose profession it literally is to use words.[1] In Ye Olden Days, any respectable venues (even - indeed, especially - the establishmentarian ones) would have been ashamed and appalled to have permitted such sins against grammar to have been committed under their aegis. Symptomatically of our age (and intentionally or not in this particular case), the degradation and destruction of language and meaning proceed apace.



    [1] To be fair in this case, it is more often editors rather than authors who compose the headlines under which articles are published - though I doubt as a general rule that journalists are any more grammatically skilled than their editors (and it should, if anything, be the opposite).
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  5. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    In the absence of further details, this sounds like a job for jury nullification.



    Another sign o' the times. Journalists and editors are people whose profession it literally is to use words. In Ye Olden Days, any respectable venues (even - indeed, especially - the establishmentarian ones) would have been ashamed and appalled to have permitted such sins against grammar to have been committed under their aegis. Symptomatically of our age (and intentionally or not), the degradation and destruction of language and meaning proceed apace.
    I forgot, after I wrote that, that good grammar is racist.

    You gotta hand it to the Marxists, they are not stupid.

    Swapping "class" with "race" has yielded brilliant results.
    "Unity, for the sake of unity alone, is a fool's objective.

    Who and what are you "uniting" with?

    I would much rather be divided by the truth than united by lies." - Seth Dillon and Anti Federalist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    ..... this sounds like a job for jury nullification.
    Jury nullification would prove to be only a pyrrhic victory once the man looses his ranch to pay for his defense.

    Moving whitey out is priority over eliminating him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Jury nullification would prove to be only a pyrrhic victory once the man looses his ranch to pay for his defense.
    Maybe it's just me, but not being imprisoned in a rape-cage for the rest of one's life seems like quite a bit more than "only a Pyrrhic victory".

    In fact, if I were forced to choose between:
    (1) NOT going to prison for life, but losing my ranch to pay for my defense, or
    (2) going to prison for life, but NOT losing my ranch to pay for my defense, or
    (3) going to prison for life, AND losing my ranch to pay for my defense,
    then I would choose (1) every time, and it's not even close.

    Of course, I would prefer (4) "NOT going to prison for life, and NOT losing my ranch to pay for my defense", but if that's not an option ... *shrug*

    There are also indirect consequences to consider: if the charges were jury-nullified (even with the direct consequence of losing one's ranch to pay for one's defense), a valuable signal would be sent to the effect that such egregious charges won't go unrepudiated - which certainly won't be a Pyrrhic victory for any subsequent might-be defendants who won't face such charges because might-be prosecutors fear they won't win with them. (Prosecutors are political creatures and are highly conscious of the notches in their belts. I doubt there are many prosecutors who would be willing to fall on their swords and take losing cases, just so they can maybe financially ruin some defendants.)

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    Legal and civil insurance for self defense is a must.

    https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/membership/
    "Unity, for the sake of unity alone, is a fool's objective.

    Who and what are you "uniting" with?

    I would much rather be divided by the truth than united by lies." - Seth Dillon and Anti Federalist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    In the absence of further details, this sounds like a job for jury nullification.
    On further consideration, jury nullification may not even be relevant here.

    Jury nullification is for instances in which the defendant is technically "guilty" of a particular charge, but is nevertheless acquitted on that charge because the jury thinks a verdict of "guilty" would not serve the interests of justice (as distinct from the interests of "the law" - i.e., of judges, lawyers, politicians, police, prison guards & bureaucrats, et al.).

    Based on the limited information publicly available at the moment, a charge of first-degree murder does not seem warranted. (Perhaps something like "voluntary manslaughter" would be more appropriate?) If that is the case and the defendant has been "overcharged", then an acquittal on first-degree murder would not be jury nullification, since the defendant would not be technically "guilty".



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    "Unity, for the sake of unity alone, is a fool's objective.

    Who and what are you "uniting" with?

    I would much rather be divided by the truth than united by lies." - Seth Dillon and Anti Federalist

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    This guy needs to sue the US government for failure to secure the border. He has standing.

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    https://twitter.com/greg_price11/sta...70152151932932

    "Unity, for the sake of unity alone, is a fool's objective.

    Who and what are you "uniting" with?

    I would much rather be divided by the truth than united by lies." - Seth Dillon and Anti Federalist

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    Any word on the poor bastards wife?
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Any word on the poor bastards wife?
    No...I know his GiveSendGo drive is up to $310,000

    https://www.givesendgo.com/G9T79

    I would hope that a good bondsman can spring him for 10 percent of stated bail, which means he has more than enough.
    "Unity, for the sake of unity alone, is a fool's objective.

    Who and what are you "uniting" with?

    I would much rather be divided by the truth than united by lies." - Seth Dillon and Anti Federalist

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    What have I said, a million times or more: NEVER TALK TO COPS!

    Come to find this out:

    George Alan Kelly, a rancher charged with first-degree murder in the shooting of a Mexican national, allegedly fired "warning shots" after armed men "pointed an AK-47 right at him."

    This poor bastard's defense attorney is a $#@!ing idiot.

    NEVER admit to a "warning shot".

    Never do it, in fact.

    If you must use deadly force then use it and stop the threat as best you can and cease shooting when there is no more threat.

    In Arizona (and almost every other state) firing "warning shots" are illegal and can be used to establish premeditation, thus the first degree murder charge.

    If it's too late and you already did, then, well, dummy up and keep your $#@!ing mouth shut about it.

    Or, if faced with no other option other than prison for the rest of your life, frankly, lie.

    "I did not fire warning shots. The trespassers were armed and pointed a weapon directly at me. I fired in self defense, as I reasonably thought I was in immediate danger of getting shot and killed. Under stress and bad conditions, my shots were poorly placed and I did not hit my assailant, to the best of my knowledge."

    In this case the perp is dead, and dead men tell no tales.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 02-16-2023 at 09:05 PM.
    "Unity, for the sake of unity alone, is a fool's objective.

    Who and what are you "uniting" with?

    I would much rather be divided by the truth than united by lies." - Seth Dillon and Anti Federalist

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    DA aughta be lynched.
    "The Patriarch"

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    "Unity, for the sake of unity alone, is a fool's objective.

    Who and what are you "uniting" with?

    I would much rather be divided by the truth than united by lies." - Seth Dillon and Anti Federalist



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    The cartels own the DA's, judges, and politicians. More than likely this guy was with the cartel or helping them. This is retaliation.

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