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    Blue State Suicide

    Billionaires in blue states face coordinated wealth-tax bills (or Alternate Link)

    Left-leaning proponents of taxing the assets held by America’s billionaires have a new target: In lieu of a federal wealth tax, state lawmakers want to tax billionaires where they live, in states like California, Washington and New York.

    A group of legislators in statehouses across the country has coordinated to introduce bills simultaneously in seven states later this week, with the same goal of raising taxes on the rich.

    “The point here is to make sure we do at the state level what is not being done at the federal level,” said Gustavo Rivera (D), a New York state senator who is part of the seven-state group.

    Some of the state bills resemble the “wealth tax” that Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) pitched during her 2020 presidential candidacy. It’s a form of taxation never before attempted in the United States, in which very wealthy people would have to pay taxes annually on assets that they own, rather than just their income that year. Other bills focus on raising money from more conventional forms of taxation, including capital gains taxes and estate taxes.

    The state legislators say they would like to try such ideas as a test case for future national policy while acting collectively to minimize the threat of people moving to a nearby lower-tax state.
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    Sponsors told The Washington Post that they will introduce their bills on Thursday in California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New York and Washington, and shared the text of their draft bills.




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    Hah hah...good.

    “States are the labs of innovation,” said Noel Frame (D), a state senator in Washington. “But taxes are different. This is why we are all here together.”

    No longer will states “get pitted against each other,” she added.

    Sponsors told The Washington Post that they will introduce their bills on Thursday in California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New York and Washington, and shared the text of their draft bills.
    TX and FL and TN and KY and NH are laughing at you.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 01-18-2023 at 12:29 AM.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    The threat of losing Blue campaign contributions will change their minds.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    The threat of losing Blue campaign contributions will change their minds.
    Nope. Individual contributions are capped. Corporate contributions aren't.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Blue State Suicide
    A good name for a rock band?
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    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
      -- The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
      -- Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
      -- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)
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      -- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post

    Or just a suggestion whose time has come?
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Nope. Individual contributions are capped. Corporate contributions aren't.
    Blue corporations too.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    I was thinking that it might fit as one of those franchise jokes, like Jeff Foxworthy's "You might be a Redneck" franchise.

    For instance:
    "If your state is trying to chase away the people that pay 90% of your taxes, you might be living in a state that's trying to commit Blue State Suicide."

    "If your state is trying to expand free healthcare to low-income undocumented immigrants at the same time it's running a budget deficit, you just might be living in a state that's trying to commit Blue State Suicide."

    The term came into existence at least ten years ago ... Forbes: The Blue-State Suicide Pact
    Last edited by Voluntarist; 01-23-2023 at 10:14 PM.

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    If your state thinks it can tax expatriots, it may be committing blue state suicide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    If your state thinks it can tax expatriots, it may be committing blue state suicide.
    There was a time when California was going after expatriots when those people pulled distributions out of their IRAs and 401K's (for the portion that had been deposited based upon work in California). I don't recall how that ended up, but I don't think it went well for California.

    ==Edited==
    I just checked, and there's apparently federal law that assures that the taxing authority is the state in which you received the distribution
    Last edited by Voluntarist; 01-24-2023 at 05:01 PM.



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