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    Classified documents found at Biden's offices, home, etc.

    Classified documents from Biden’s time as VP discovered in private office
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/polit...enn/index.html
    Jamie Gangel, Marshall Cohen, Even Perez & Phil Mattingly (09 January 2022)

    Several classified documents from President Joe Biden’s time as vice president were discovered last fall in a private office, Biden’s attorneys acknowledged Monday.

    Attorney General Merrick Garland has asked the US attorney in Chicago to investigate the matter, a source familiar with the matter tells CNN, and congressional Republicans are also taking notice.

    Biden’s lawyers say they found the government materials in November while closing out a Washington, DC-based office – the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement – that Biden used as part of his relationship with the University of Pennsylvania, where he was an honorary professor from 2017 to 2019.

    Fewer than a dozen classified documents were found at Biden’s office, another source told CNN. It is unclear what the documents pertain to or why they were taken to Biden’s private office. Federal officeholders are required by law to relinquish official documents and classified records when their government service ends.

    “The White House is cooperating with the National Archives and the Department of Justice regarding the discovery of what appear to be Obama-Biden Administration records, including a small number of documents with classified markings,” Richard Sauber, special counsel to President Biden, said in a statement. “The documents were discovered when the President’s personal attorneys were packing files housed in a locked closet to prepare to vacate office space at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C. The President periodically used this space from mid-2017 until the start of the 2020 campaign. On the day of this discovery, November 2, 2022, the White House Counsel’s Office notified the National Archives. The Archives took possession of the materials the following morning.”

    “The discovery of these documents was made by the President’s attorneys,” Sauber added. “The documents were not the subject of any previous request or inquiry by the Archives. Since that discovery, the President’s personal attorneys have cooperated with the Archives and the Department of Justice in a process to ensure that any Obama-Biden Administration records are appropriately in the possession of the Archives.”

    CBS News first reported on the documents.

    At a summit in Mexico City on Monday evening, Biden ignored shouted questions from reporters on the classified documents. Garland, also attending the summit, was seated to the President’s left.

    A senior administration official traveling with Biden says the issue won’t be a distraction.

    “Nothing has changed in his schedule,” the official said. “He’s focused on the summit and meeting with our closest neighbors.”

    The classified materials included some top-secret files with the “sensitive compartmented information” designation, also known as SCI, which is used for highly sensitive information obtained from intelligence sources.

    After the discovery, Biden’s lawyers immediately contacted the National Archives and Records Administration, which started looking into the matter, the source said. Biden’s team cooperated with NARA, which later came to view the situation as a mistake due to lack of safeguards for documents, the source said.

    In November, NARA sent a referral to the Justice Department to look into the matter, a source with knowledge of the situation told CNN.

    The US attorney in Chicago, John Lausch Jr., is investigating. Lausch was one of the rare Trump-era holdovers who wasn’t asked to resign after Biden’s inauguration. He was appointed by Trump in 2017 and unanimously confirmed by the Senate. Illinois’ two Democratic senators said in 2021 that they wanted Lausch to remain at his top post “to conclude sensitive investigations,” though they didn’t reveal what probes he was working on.

    Political fallout

    The discovery of the materials come as special counsel Jack Smith is investigating former President Donald Trump for potentially mishandling classified records at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. Federal investigators have recovered at least 325 classified documents from Trump as part of their inquiry.

    Republicans are already asking questions of Biden.

    “President Biden has been very critical of President Trump mistakenly taking classified documents to the residence or wherever and now it seems he may have done the same,” said GOP Rep. James Comer of Kentucky, who is set to become the House Oversight Chairman. “How ironic.”

    Comer pointed out that the National Archives falls under his committee’s jurisdiction for oversight but said when they, while in the minority, sent NARA questions related to former Trump, NARA referred Republicans to the Justice Department.

    “Maybe they’ll answer our questions now because it pertains to two presidents,” Comer said, adding he plans to ask the archives for more information later this week.

    House Speaker Kevin McCarthy didn’t say whether he believes the new GOP Congress should investigate Biden, but said the reaction to Trump holding onto classified documents has been driven by politics.

    “I just think it goes to prove what they tried to do to President Trump overplayed their hand on that,” McCarthy said.

    “They’ve been around even longer,” McCarthy said of Biden’s team. “President Trump had never been in office before and had just left, came out. Here’s an individual (who) spent his last 40 years in office.”

    McCarthy added: “It just shows that they were trying to be political with President Trump.”

    Differences between document discoveries

    The Trump documents saga emerged in a different way than the Biden situation, however.

    According to Biden’s attorneys, they turned over the classified materials and notified NARA as soon as they were discovered. With Trump, NARA realized that key records were missing, and NARA officials haggled with Trump’s team over the return of government documents.

    Trump eventually gave 15 boxes of materials back to NARA. But federal investigators later came to correctly suspect that he was still holding onto dozens of additional classified files. So, DOJ prosecutors secured a grand jury subpoena and later got a judge’s permission to search Mar-a-Lago, to find the documents.

    Ever since the FBI searched Mar-a-Lago in August – a search that uncovered dozens of additional classified files – Trump has promoted wild and unfounded allegations about his predecessors’ supposed mishandling of government records. The news about classified records turning up at Biden’s private office is sure to provide new fodder to Trump, who has already announced his 2024 presidential bid.

    On Truth Social, Trump wrote: “When is the FBI going to raid the many homes of Joe Biden, perhaps even the White House? These documents were definitely not declassified.”

    Biden was critical of Trump when he saw the photograph taken by the FBI that showed an array of documents found on Trump’s property last summer.

    “How that could possibly happen? How one – anyone could be that irresponsible?” Biden said. “And I thought what data was in there that may compromise sources and methods? By that I mean names of people who helped or, et cetera. … totally irresponsible.”

    CNN contributor and former Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger, who served on the House select committee investigating January 6, said Monday that the investigation may blow some of the political headwinds away from Trump.

    “The only thing that’s needed right now by the former president is to be able to throw doubt and say, ‘look, this happened, too,’” Kinzinger told Wolf Blitzer on CNN’s “The Situation Room.” “So from a political perspective, this is actually probably pretty bad. Not just for the president, but really for the idea of getting justice through the political system.”

    Kinzinger speculated that the investigation into Biden will come down to who on the former vice president’s staff handled the documents and whether holding onto the documents was intentional or an accident.

    “There’s going to be nuances,” Kinzinger said. “I’ll tell you, the U.S. Attorney in Chicago is a very fair man, Mr. Lausch, and so I think we can trust his word.”
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 01-09-2023 at 10:27 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


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    Can't wait to hear the leftist spin on this.
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    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Can't wait to hear the leftist spin on this.
    Here's a start:

    Fewer than a dozen classified documents were found at Biden’s office, another source told CNN.
    If it were Trump, that would read:

    "More than a dozen classified documents were found at Trump’s office, an anonymous official told CNN."

    It would be accompanied by a picture of documents and classified folders strewn about on a desk and floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Can't wait to hear the leftist spin on this.
    Here's a start:

    Fewer than a dozen classified documents were found at Biden’s office, another source told CNN.
    If it were Trump, that would read:

    "More than a dozen classified documents were found at Trump’s office, an anonymous official told CNN."

    It would be accompanied by a picture of documents and classified folders strewn about on a desk and floor.
    I especially enjoy the Smiling Biden / Smirking Trump images they used here:

    (... and the "team colors", too - gotta get those in there ...)

    https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/stat...44926101819392
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 01-10-2023 at 01:44 PM.

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    https://twitter.com/scotthortonshow/...84598408548380



    Exclusive: US intelligence materials related to Ukraine, Iran and UK found in Biden’s private office, source tells CNN
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/10/polit...m-beau-funeral
    Jamie Gangel, Marshall Cohen & Evan Perez (10 January 2023)

    Among the items from Joe Biden’s time as vice president discovered in a private office last fall are 10 classified documents including US intelligence memos and briefing materials that covered topics including Ukraine, Iran and the United Kingdom, according to a source familiar with the matter.

    Attorney General Merrick Garland has received a preliminary report on the documents inquiry, a law enforcement source said, and now faces the critical decision on how to proceed, including whether to open a full-blown criminal investigation. [LOL - OB]

    The documents were dated between 2013 and 2016, according to the source familiar. They were found in three or four boxes also containing unclassified papers that fall under the Presidential Records Act.

    The vast majority of the items in the office contained personal Biden family documents, including materials about Beau Biden’s funeral arrangements and condolence letters, the source told CNN. It is not clear if the boxes with classified documents contained personal materials.

    Attorney General Merrick Garland has assigned the US attorney in Chicago, a holdover from the Trump administration, to investigate the matter, CNN previously reported. Garland made this move after receiving a referral from the National Archives and Records Administration.

    The documents were discovered on November 2, just six days before the midterm elections, but the matter only became public Monday due to news reports. [IOW: "the matter only became public Monday due to the matter becoming public" - OB]

    The source told CNN that a personal lawyer for Biden was closing out the downtown DC office that Biden used as part his work with the University of Pennsylvania. The lawyer saw a manila folder that was labeled “personal,” opened the envelope and noticed there were classified documents inside. The lawyer closed the envelope and called NARA, the source said.

    After making contact with NARA, Biden’s team turned over several boxes in an abundance of caution, even though many of the boxes contained personal materials, the source said.

    US attorney has submitted preliminary findings to Garland

    The US attorney in Chicago, John Lausch Jr., has already completed the initial part of his inquiry and provided his preliminary findings to Garland, a law enforcement source said.

    That means Garland now must decide how to proceed. Garland was also personally involved in some of the key decision-making related to the Trump documents investigation and the decision to send the FBI to search Mar-a-Lago.

    Garland chose to have Lausch conduct the Biden documents investigation because he is one of two remaining Trump-appointed US attorneys, and to avoid the appearance of conflict of interest because he wasn’t appointed by Biden, people briefed on the matter said.

    In an awkward moment on Monday, Garland was sitting alongside Biden at a diplomatic summit in Mexico while reporters shouted questions about the probe. Both men ignored the questions.

    Lausch was one of the rare Trump-era holdovers who wasn’t told to resign after Biden’s inauguration in 2021, and Illinois’ two Democratic senators supported the decision to keep him at his post in part because he was handling the politically sensitive investigation of Michael Madigan, the former Democratic Illinois House speaker indicted on corruption charges.

    CLARIFICATION: The story has been updated to specify where the classified documents were found in Biden’s office.
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 01-10-2023 at 02:17 PM.

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    https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/sta...66842887950383



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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/scotthortonshow/...84598408548380



    Exclusive: US intelligence materials related to Ukraine, Iran and UK found in Biden’s private office, source tells CNN
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/10/polit...m-beau-funeral
    Jamie Gangel, Marshall Cohen & Evan Perez (10 January 2023)

    Among the items from Joe Biden’s time as vice president discovered in a private office last fall are 10 classified documents including US intelligence memos and briefing materials that covered topics including Ukraine, Iran and the United Kingdom, according to a source familiar with the matter.

    Attorney General Merrick Garland has received a preliminary report on the documents inquiry, a law enforcement source said, and now faces the critical decision on how to proceed, including whether to open a full-blown criminal investigation. [LOL - OB]

    The documents were dated between 2013 and 2016, according to the source familiar. They were found in three or four boxes also containing unclassified papers that fall under the Presidential Records Act.

    The vast majority of the items in the office contained personal Biden family documents, including materials about Beau Biden’s funeral arrangements and condolence letters, the source told CNN. It is not clear if the boxes with classified documents contained personal materials.

    Attorney General Merrick Garland has assigned the US attorney in Chicago, a holdover from the Trump administration, to investigate the matter, CNN previously reported. Garland made this move after receiving a referral from the National Archives and Records Administration.

    The documents were discovered on November 2, just six days before the midterm elections, but the matter only became public Monday due to news reports. [IOW: "the matter only became public Monday due to the matter becoming public" - OB]

    The source told CNN that a personal lawyer for Biden was closing out the downtown DC office that Biden used as part his work with the University of Pennsylvania. The lawyer saw a manila folder that was labeled “personal,” opened the envelope and noticed there were classified documents inside. The lawyer closed the envelope and called NARA, the source said.

    After making contact with NARA, Biden’s team turned over several boxes in an abundance of caution, even though many of the boxes contained personal materials, the source said.

    US attorney has submitted preliminary findings to Garland

    The US attorney in Chicago, John Lausch Jr., has already completed the initial part of his inquiry and provided his preliminary findings to Garland, a law enforcement source said.

    That means Garland now must decide how to proceed. Garland was also personally involved in some of the key decision-making related to the Trump documents investigation and the decision to send the FBI to search Mar-a-Lago.

    Garland chose to have Lausch conduct the Biden documents investigation because he is one of two remaining Trump-appointed US attorneys, and to avoid the appearance of conflict of interest because he wasn’t appointed by Biden, people briefed on the matter said.

    In an awkward moment on Monday, Garland was sitting alongside Biden at a diplomatic summit in Mexico while reporters shouted questions about the probe. Both men ignored the questions.

    Lausch was one of the rare Trump-era holdovers who wasn’t told to resign after Biden’s inauguration in 2021, and Illinois’ two Democratic senators supported the decision to keep him at his post in part because he was handling the politically sensitive investigation of Michael Madigan, the former Democratic Illinois House speaker indicted on corruption charges.

    CLARIFICATION: The story has been updated to specify where the classified documents were found in Biden’s office.
    Maybe this is what got him suspended?
    "The Patriarch"

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    But wait! There's more!!

    Biden aides find second batch of classified documents at new location
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna65371
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    But wait! There's more!!

    Biden aides find second batch of classified documents at new location
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna65371

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

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    Bet there's going to be a third batch of classified files found.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Now they are saying they found more in his garage next to his corvette.

    This whole story is fake. Here is what really is happening. Biden's handlers are afraid that Trump will go down on the classified documents charges and be barred from office. They want Trump as the nominee because he has no chance at wining. So they plant some documents on Biden and "self report" them. Now to let Biden slide on the charge, they have to let Trump slide too. Boom, Trump loses and Biden gets a second term.

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    The Dems and Deeps are going to put away the Bidens because it is easy and because he is a dope...

    they don't want him to run. he is holding back too much in some matters like Ukraine and Iran
    and his network has some power in the old Boomer club that they want to put away..

    prepping Kamala ....

    what you think is a good thing is not a good thing.

    you don't think it can be worse... but it CAN.
    "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ... Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - J.F.K.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    The Dems and Deeps are going to put away the Bidens because it is easy and because he is a dope...

    they don't want him to run. he is holding back too much in some matters like Ukraine and Iran
    and his network has some power in the old Boomer club that they want to put away..

    prepping Kamala ....

    what you think is a good thing is not a good thing.

    you don't think it can be worse... but it CAN.
    No chance, her favorables are worse than Biden or Trump. She loses the election in all polling.

    They are saving Trump so Biden runs against a weak losing GOP candidate.

    I saw right through it as soon as I read the news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Now they are saying they found more in his garage next to his corvette.

    This whole story is fake. Here is what really is happening. Biden's handlers are afraid that Trump will go down on the classified documents charges and be barred from office. They want Trump as the nominee because he has no chance at wining. So they plant some documents on Biden and "self report" them. Now to let Biden slide on the charge, they have to let Trump slide too. Boom, Trump loses and Biden gets a second term.
    Not a bad theory I think.
    "I am a bird"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    No chance, her favorables are worse than Biden or Trump. She loses the election in all polling.

    They are saving Trump so Biden runs against a weak losing GOP candidate.

    I saw right through it as soon as I read the news.
    They don't want Kamala for that reason. They want a green light to attack Iran. Plus, US troops officially fighting Russia in Ukraine.
    Kamala will give it. There is also a terrorist attack coming soon. Biden has been resisting. They are framing him up.
    "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ... Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - J.F.K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    They don't want Kamala for that reason. They want a green light to attack Iran. Plus, US troops officially fighting Russia in Ukraine.
    Kamala will give it. There is also a terrorist attack coming soon. Biden has been resisting. They are framing him up.


    Biden has been resisting? Resisting what? Tapioca? His Geritol?

    Biden couldn't resist anything before he became senile. You seem to be stuck on the idea that these clowns have some power. If they hadn't proven many times over that they could be bribed or blackmailed into doing literally anything, they would never have been handed the election.

    How can you possibly believe nuclear warheads went off in New York City on 9/11/01, yet think these puppets somehow aren't puppets? It isn't just that both notions are asinine. They're completely contradictory.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 01-12-2023 at 02:34 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

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    you will understand when things happen.

    after the Superbowl.
    "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ... Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - J.F.K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    you will understand when things happen.

    after the Superbowl.
    I understand that some internet vblogger has you thinking you're Q. Dream on. The funny thing is how desperately they want us to believe the people in charge are the people they let us vote for. And here you are...



    Last edited by acptulsa; 01-12-2023 at 02:39 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/sta...66842887950383
    Of course he's a lair.

    One of the most vile liars to ever squat in the White House.

    Cooks up lies all the time, for the worst purpose: to get Americans at each other's throats for political advantage.
    "Truly, whoever can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Of course he's a lair.

    One of the most vile liars to ever squat in the White House.

    Cooks up lies all the time, for the worst purpose: to get Americans at each other's throats for political advantage.

    Liar? I think the guy is so senile that he just reads whatever they tell him too off the teleprompter. I don't think he has the faculties to consciously lie anymore.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    They don't want Kamala for that reason. They want a green light to attack Iran. Plus, US troops officially fighting Russia in Ukraine.
    Kamala will give it. There is also a terrorist attack coming soon. Biden has been resisting. They are framing him up.
    Biden can't resist anything. The guy clearly has dementia, alzheimers or something and is not running the show anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Liar? I think the guy is so senile that he just reads whatever they tell him too off the teleprompter. I don't think he has the faculties to consciously lie anymore.
    He can't even read $#@! off a teleprompter anymore, that doesn't mean he doesn't lie, he does.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Biden can't resist anything. The guy clearly has dementia, alzheimers or something and is not running the show anymore.
    He did and does... whether you believe that or not.
    "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ... Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - J.F.K.

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    It's called Anarcho-Tyranny

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1612985756477231105

    "Truly, whoever can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

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    "The Patriarch"

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    Are we entertained yet?



    "The Patriarch"

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