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    Baby Boomers May Suck, But So Does Everyone Else.



    In recent years I have found myself amused most drolly by the youngins who refer to those of my generation as "Boomers", meant as a pejorative. It is a bit childish, just as are all such weak attempts at insult. But to those people, and all others on the planet, I do have something to say along those lines.

    Despite being otherwise decent and intelligent people, my generation (baby boom) turned out for the most part to be horrible parents. They are, after all, responsible for the so-called "millennial", who in their turn gave rise to "generation Z", a raft of functional weaklings and toddlers in grown bodies who think they are smart, when in fact they are woefully the opposite, again speaking to the mean.
    How did so bright a generation give rise to the utter wasteland that is the major portion of this most recent generation of "adults"? One major answer is actually quite simple: they fell for the bait of the likes of that scurrilous clown, Benjamin Spock, and decided they would be friends with their children, rather than proper parents, based on the false belief that it is important that they be liked by their offspring. Few things could be further from the truth. This may seem an innocent enough position to assume, but it is in fact the basis of the current destruction we are witnessing nationwide as the nation falls to wrack and ruin.

    And so we have managed through our good intentions to muck the world up beyond all recognition, and possibly past the point of redemption. But being a low-IQ optimist, I cling to the barest hair-split of hope that this miasma of raving stupidity and abhorrently poor attitudes and habits may yet be corrected. But in order to do so, the first step will be to forgive each other: the young for our unintentional errors, and we, for their wildly misguided world views that, after all, were made possible due to our own errors in child-rearing.

    Imagine the utter fit that Theye would have, were we, the warring parties to stop, shake hands, let bygones be bygones, and begin to rebuild the perceptual commons where decency, respect, good manners, basic sense, tolerance of the tolerable, and all the other blessings of freedom are the norm, the old becoming new once more. Theye (those in real material power in the world) would toss a colossal conniption and we would be able to confidently expect all manner of problems to arise, whether those of an economic nature, in finance, commodities, wars, and so forth, because the last thing they want is for you and I to shake hands and learn to become friendly. When that happens, Theye are finished, because without the manifold antagonisms that keep us divided, and therefore distracted, we would be free to come together as one in the political sense of recognizing who is the real enemy of humanity.


    It's not Republicans or Democrats, lefties or righties, conservative or progressive, men or women: it's the elite and we could de-ball them in very short order, were we to forgive one another and get to the business of restoring liberty to the people of planet Earth.

    We don't have to all be in love with one another. Certainly our differences would not vanish, but our reactions to those differences would. Rather than wishing all manner of horrors upon one another, we would respectfully disagree where we differ, yet be generous enough to allow each other our lives and views and preferences. Such as development would drive the Tyrant mad with frustration and fear because he already knows that the moment we stop the back-biting, we might turn eyes in common toward him, his lackeys, and begin to divine what it is he has really been doing to us all this time. In such a case, it would spell the end of things for them all, which means Theye must prevent it from occurring at any and all cost.


    There is no possible way, short of nuking or plaguing the entire planet, that Theye can successfully dominate us if we refuse their false authority; authority that exists in terms of real world effect only because we accept it as real, when in fact it is literally nothing at all beyond mere belief. So long as we believe, we tend to comply. So long as we comply, the false assertion of authority becomes effectively real. It is a house of cards that stands because we fail to take in even the most meager breath, which is all that is required to blow it down to its very foundation.

    Freedom is a heartbeat away, yet it is impossibly distant, not because it is itself impossible, but because we make it so when we play Theire game, nearly every one of us being in that diversion up to our eyeballs. Why else do we have so many people tearing out their hair with hatred for this one or those over there? Theye are whispering in our ears that the enemy threatens, whether it be horrible white males, black females, Muslims, Jews, Christians, and so on down the seemingly endless list of labels that provides objects of fear and hatred for every possible taste.

    It's the gag-reel of all time; the biggest scam ever, and nearly every one of us have taken up with it hook, line, and sinker.

    The most productive thing we could do at this very moment would be to stop playing, because participation is a loser by intent of design.

    May 2023 prove better than 2022, and may we all forgive one another for our trespasses, real, imagined, and otherwise. What is past is done. Some of it has been indeed horrible, but when we think about it closely, most was really not so bad. We differ. We will always differ. Can we not move on now to more profitable things, such as restoring the liberties that Theye have convinced us to cede?


    Imagine not living in red-alert mode, day in and day out. Imagine not being filled with rage, outrage, anger, and hatred, all emotions that have their places, but when taken in too generous measures soon becomes erosive of health, happiness, and liberty as we become prisoners of them. Imagine having the power to recognize the real enemies of humanity and turning your justifiable ire upon them! Imagine a world where courtesy reigned; where people were friendly despite holding differing opinions. Imagine a world better than the one in which we are now all inmates in a prison of our own contrivance!


    It is possible. It is so close, you could kiss it if you chose to see. But so long as we remain in hate-fear mode, Theye shall remain powerful while we remain effectively weak, and that is the greatest and most shameful irony of them all. We, the humans from Earth, could end Themme in no time at all, even if the cost were to prove high. It can be done, but not if we are at one another's throats.


    May the blessings of liberty be with us all, and until next time please accept my best wishes.
    Last edited by osan; 12-26-2022 at 06:44 PM.
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    I didn't do it,, it was broken when I got here.

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    From what I can tell Gen X seems to be the only current generation that at least has some integrity.
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    I'm a millennial but I don't own it. I say all the time that they started putting something in the baby food after the 90s.
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    This is getting silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post


    In recent years I have found myself amused most drolly by the youngins who refer to those of my generation as "Boomers", meant as a pejorative. It is a bit childish, just as are all such weak attempts at insult. But to those people, and all others on the planet, I do have something to say along those lines.

    Despite being otherwise decent and intelligent people, my generation (baby boom) turned out for the most part to be horrible parents. They are, after all, responsible for the so-called "millennial", who in their turn gave rise to "generation Z", a raft of functional weaklings and toddlers in grown bodies who think they are smart, when in fact they are woefully the opposite, again speaking to the mean.
    How did so bright a generation give rise to the utter wasteland that is the major portion of this most recent generation of "adults"? One major answer is actually quite simple: they fell for the bait of the likes of that scurrilous clown, Benjamin Spock, and decided they would be friends with their children, rather than proper parents, based on the false belief that it is important that they be liked by their offspring. Few things could be further from the truth. This may seem an innocent enough position to assume, but it is in fact the basis of the current destruction we are witnessing nationwide as the nation falls to wrack and ruin.

    And so we have managed through our good intentions to muck the world up beyond all recognition, and possibly past the point of redemption. But being a low-IQ optimist, I cling to the barest hair-split of hope that this miasma of raving stupidity and abhorrently poor attitudes and habits may yet be corrected. But in order to do so, the first step will be to forgive each other: the young for our unintentional errors, and we, for their wildly misguided world views that, after all, were made possible due to our own errors in child-rearing.

    Imagine the utter fit that Theye would have, were we, the warring parties to stop, shake hands, let bygones be bygones, and begin to rebuild the perceptual commons where decency, respect, good manners, basic sense, tolerance of the tolerable, and all the other blessings of freedom are the norm, the old becoming new once more. Theye (those in real material power in the world) would toss a colossal conniption and we would be able to confidently expect all manner of problems to arise, whether those of an economic nature, in finance, commodities, wars, and so forth, because the last thing they want is for you and I to shake hands and learn to become friendly. When that happens, Theye are finished, because without the manifold antagonisms that keep us divided, and therefore distracted, we would be free to come together as one in the political sense of recognizing who is the real enemy of humanity.


    It's not Republicans or Democrats, lefties or righties, conservative or progressive, men or women: it's the elite and we could de-ball them in very short order, were we to forgive one another and get to the business of restoring liberty to the people of planet Earth.

    We don't have to all be in love with one another. Certainly our differences would not vanish, but our reactions to those differences would. Rather than wishing all manner of horrors upon one another, we would respectfully disagree where we differ, yet be generous enough to allow each other our lives and views and preferences. Such as development would drive the Tyrant mad with frustration and fear because he already knows that the moment we stop the back-biting, we might turn eyes in common toward him, his lackeys, and begin to divine what it is he has really been doing to us all this time. In such a case, it would spell the end of things for them all, which means Theye must prevent it from occurring at any and all cost.


    There is no possible way, short of nuking or plaguing the entire planet, that Theye can successfully dominate us if we refuse their false authority; authority that exists in terms of real world effect only because we accept it as real, when in fact it is literally nothing at all beyond mere belief. So long as we believe, we tend to comply. So long as we comply, the false assertion of authority becomes effectively real. It is a house of cards that stands because we fail to take in even the most meager breath, which is all that is required to blow it down to its very foundation.

    Freedom is a heartbeat away, yet it is impossibly distant, not because it is itself impossible, but because we make it so when we play Theire game, nearly every one of us being in that diversion up to our eyeballs. Why else do we have so many people tearing out their hair with hatred for this one or those over there? Theye are whispering in our ears that the enemy threatens, whether it be horrible white males, black females, Muslims, Jews, Christians, and so on down the seemingly endless list of labels that provides objects of fear and hatred for every possible taste.

    It's the gag-reel of all time; the biggest scam ever, and nearly every one of us have taken up with it hook, line, and sinker.

    The most productive thing we could do at this very moment would be to stop playing, because participation is a loser by intent of design.

    May 2023 prove better than 2022, and may we all forgive one another for our trespasses, real, imagined, and otherwise. What is past is done. Some of it has been indeed horrible, but when we think about it closely, most was really not so bad. We differ. We will always differ. Can we not move on now to more profitable things, such as restoring the liberties that Theye have convinced us to cede?


    Imagine not living in red-alert mode, day in and day out. Imagine not being filled with rage, outrage, anger, and hatred, all emotions that have their places, but when taken in too generous measures soon becomes erosive of health, happiness, and liberty as we become prisoners of them. Imagine having the power to recognize the real enemies of humanity and turning your justifiable ire upon them! Imagine a world where courtesy reigned; where people were friendly despite holding differing opinions. Imagine a world better than the one in which we are now all inmates in a prison of our own contrivance!


    It is possible. It is so close, you could kiss it if you chose to see. But so long as we remain in hate-fear mode, Theye shall remain powerful while we remain effectively weak, and that is the greatest and most shameful irony of them all. We, the humans from Earth, could end Themme in no time at all, even if the cost were to prove high. It can be done, but not if we are at one another's throats.


    May the blessings of liberty be with us all, and until next time please accept my best wishes.
    The worst aspects of Boomers is the tendency for selfishness through the end. They’re completely content with siphoning every last drop on their way out knowing full well the economic catastrophe left in the wake. It’s not enough they bought homes for a tenth the price they are today. Graduated college when degrees cost a part time job. Cars that were a few thousand bucks. After a lifetime of a high standard of living, they have really not much to show for it. I’m half their age and have multiple times their average wealth having worked a third less with all the modern headwinds of sky high prices for everything. So it’s really a joke. And I came from nothing. What I have from just personal savings demonstrates to me that Boomers, with all the tailwinds and silver spoons handed to them, were by far the most selfish generation ever. Really there’s no excuse for any Boomer to still be working today, let alone have a mortgage or any debt whatsoever, given the open layups they got in life. How every Boomer isn’t a multi-multi millionaire today just shows they blew most of their paychecks in the moment and their wealth is accidental home price appreciation.

    On their way out, they’ll cling to every last penny of Social Security and Medicare and leave the disaster for Millennials to pick up the pieces. The inflation we grew up with wasn’t enough, apparently.

    The satisfying aspect is the bill is coming due this decade, so most Boomers will get a taste of struggle. But 20 and 30 year olds have zero sympathy for traditional bureaucracy and entitlements. We’ll gladly not bail it out and not continue it. Similar to how we figured out how to break up all the old paradigms Boomers built and we had to reform. School choice is accelerating rapidly, no thanks to Boomers who had 50 years of voting to do anything about it.

    Young evangelicals are also being revitalized by Christianity. Thanks to Boomers and the degenerate garbage they cheered on for society, we’re having to undo that as well. And Boomers stood by the wayside watching society fall, not caring, not lifting a finger. They don’t care. All they care about is a $1500 Social Security check they can blow the moment it gets direct deposited as young families struggle to even raise 1 kid.

    Boomers, in general, just flat out haven’t cared outside of themselves. The proof is in the pudding everywhere you look. 50 years of political choices and they scoff at dumb Millennials who are picking up the pieces. Thanks for the $8 Big Macs, $500,000 homes, $100,000 college, $50,000 average car, etc. etc. But we can’t dare touch Social Security. Nahhh, gotta suck every dime out of those dumb Millennials. I’m just glad most Boomers will be 70-75 years old and the slack-jawed stupefied look on their faces when they realize they can’t blow their $1500 at the casino whenever the debt music stops playing.
    Last edited by Gaddafi Duck; 06-01-2023 at 01:10 PM.

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    In addition, Boomers aborted tens of millions of their kids. Abortion peaked in 1990-91, the tail end of Boomers having promiscuous relationships, or worse, aborting their 5th kid because they didn’t want to be burdened. Nothing speaks to the vanity of Boomers than everything they’ve done. Sky-high abortion rates, refusal to acknowledge unsustainable entitlements, etc.

    Thanks for the cable TV bundle, massive teachers’ unions, and other garbage $#@! we’re jettisoning and reforming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaddafi Duck View Post
    The worst aspects of Boomers is the tendency for selfishness through the end.
    Let us assume this is not only true, but that we are working with a reasonable definition of "selfishness". So what? Here you are parroting one of the left's most repulsive talking points - their endlessly idiotic tirade in condemnation of "selfishness". Surely you can do better than this... if you wanted to.

    They’re completely content with siphoning every last drop on their way out knowing full well the economic catastrophe left in the wake.
    Meaningless, substance-free assertion. What are you peddling here?

    It’s not enough they bought homes for a tenth the price they are today.
    Oh do go on while I break out my one-inch violin.

    Graduated college when degrees cost a part time job.
    Now you're talking pure nonsense. When I attended USC in 1976, it was the second most costly college in America, Colgate being the most $$$$ in those days. At nearly $6K a year, I finally left for UC Davis because that was $637/year, courtesy of the California taxpayer. So please do spare us the blanket assertions that are tantamount to bald-faced lies.

    Cars that were a few thousand bucks.
    $#@!'s sake man, were you born this bitter?

    After a lifetime of a high standard of living, they have really not much to show for it.
    Well lessee... I completed work for seven degrees in five majors, all STEM areas. I don't consider it anything over which to brag, but I am most definitely not ashamed of it. I have a small farm, pulled down approximately $4.2 million in twelve years of dotcom insanity, and am comfortable enough. I have perhaps the best wife on the planet, friends for whom my kidneys and indeed my life would be theirs if they needed them. I know several bona fide geniuses, have lunched with a handful of Fortune 100 CEOs, wore $5,000 piece-built suits to work every day, managed huge software development projects, responsible for nearly a billion dollars of other people's money, was an MTS at Bell Labs... Honestly, if I think about it, I have a good deal for which to show, and I've not even gotten into my blacksmithing, piloting, shooting, and other grand interests... not to mention chasing some very worthy women, and on occasion catching one.

    And I'm the poor trash of my circle. So what, exactly, are you going on about?

    I’m half their age and have multiple times their average wealth having worked a third less with all the modern headwinds of sky high prices for everything. So it’s really a joke. And I came from nothing. What I have from just personal savings demonstrates to me that Boomers, with all the tailwinds and silver spoons handed to them, were by far the most selfish generation ever. Really there’s no excuse for any Boomer to still be working today, let alone have a mortgage or any debt whatsoever, given the open layups they got in life. How every Boomer isn’t a multi-multi millionaire today just shows they blew most of their paychecks in the moment and their wealth is accidental home price appreciation.

    You really need to tap-dance the $#@! out of here. I'm glad you've met with material success. I'm happy for anyone who can do it cleanly, and I'm assuming you have. But your generalizations border on the idiotic, I'm sorry to say.


    On their way out, they’ll cling to every last penny of Social Security and Medicare and leave the disaster for Millennials to pick up the pieces. The inflation we grew up with wasn’t enough, apparently.
    You appear quite fond of spewing innuendo-laced nonsense. Before uttering more, I'd suggest you go into one of the many bathrooms in your mansion and take a good hard look at who's in the mirror, gawking back at you.

    The satisfying aspect is the bill is coming due this decade, so most Boomers will get a taste of struggle.
    Now you're just being an ass. You want to know about struggle? I could have you in a heap on the floor. The $#@! I went through you would not even believe, so once again spare us your bile-laced sanctimony.

    But 20 and 30 year olds have zero sympathy for traditional bureaucracy and entitlements.
    You lie. That generation is more in love with those things than any other I can recall, and my memory is quite sharp on such matters. You have no credibility.

    We’ll gladly not bail it out and not continue it.
    Bull.

    $#@!.

    The scoundrels will say "jump", and you pansies will say "how high, mazza?" GenX is the weakest, most stridently ignorant generation yet, and I will cop to some responsibility of the Boomers for that, what with their misguided good intentions in raising the weak-kneed millennial generation, and here I speak of the statistical mean, fully well acknowledging there are exceptions to every rule. Gauss was a bright boy.


    Similar to how we figured out how to break up all the old paradigms Boomers built and we had to reform. School choice is accelerating rapidly, no thanks to Boomers who had 50 years of voting to do anything about it.
    You $#@!s didn't do $#@!all. You blindly accepted the bull$#@! that was spoon-fed to you and which your parents didn't have the sense to smack the crap out of you to straighten your sorry, fragile, brittle, weak asses out.

    Thanks to Boomers and the degenerate garbage they cheered on for society,
    Wow, finally we agree on something. This is certainly the case, but the same can be said for generations prior as well.

    we’re having to undo that as well.
    Oh Sally, you're not undoing a damned thing. You're being lead around by your noses at the hands of those who are just about keeling over from laughing at just how abominably stupid you all are. Get. The. $#@!. Out. Judging by what you've written here, you don't know squat. You think you're smart, but you're not nearly so much so.

    And Boomers stood by the wayside watching society fall,
    Not all of us did, but were you amend your statement to that of a statistical nature, we would agree. We've been doing this for THOUSANDS of years. Have you not been paying attention? Go learn some history and get some wisdom which thus far has evaded you.


    not lifting a finger.
    More bull$#@! and lies. Clue time: my generation and the one previous brought you spoiled little cock-suckers the world you take for granted. I was part of the intellectual juggernaut that built the global network. I worked with people of such intellect, they'd crush you as an afterthought. I worked with guys like Kernighan and has a several month-long email war with Stroustrup over whether C++ should become the SOE for AT&T's development endeavors. I've worked on a jet-black project where I was probably the least intelligent team member, the leaders being of such magnitude that I guaRONtee you have never known such blinding creative force. GenZ is a raft of fairy-hopping cry-babies who would never have been able to reproduce what my generation churned out in volumes so staggering, you'd fall to the floor in shame, were you even 10% smart enough to realize what utter $#@! you are peddling here.

    So really, do spare us your phony baloney indignation and venom. You don't have what it takes to wrestle even with me, much less a truly smart man of my generation.

    Now go $#@! off and leave the talking to the adults in the room. This is no place for loud-mouthed twerps.

    Come back when you grow up a little bit.
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    I don't care to blame the Boomers. But I am angry that the vision of the Founding Fathers was destroyed, most of it in the post-war era. I don't believe the Boomers themselves caused that... the only people to blame are the ruling elites, the very same elites who sent their parents off to the battlefields of Europe, Japan and Korea. They have destroyed every square inch of American culture with their infinity-cash printing-press.

    I just wish I could afford to rent a curbside cardboard box despite earning an above-median income. I seriously cannot figure out how 50+% of this country is even surviving...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    I don't care to blame the Boomers. But I am angry that the vision of the Founding Fathers was destroyed, most of it in the post-war era. I don't believe the Boomers themselves caused that... the only people to blame are the ruling elites, the very same elites who sent their parents off to the battlefields of Europe, Japan and Korea. They have destroyed every square inch of American culture with their infinity-cash printing-press.

    I just wish I could afford to rent a curbside cardboard box despite earning an above-median income. I seriously cannot figure out how 50+% of this country is even surviving...
    Yep, I agree. But to which founding fathers are you referring? The Anti-Federalists? Or the ones who signed that Centralist Constitution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Let us assume this is not only true, but that we are working with a reasonable definition of "selfishness". So what? Here you are parroting one of the left's most repulsive talking points - their endlessly idiotic tirade in condemnation of "selfishness". Surely you can do better than this... if you wanted to.



    Meaningless, substance-free assertion. What are you peddling here?



    Oh do go on while I break out my one-inch violin.



    Now you're talking pure nonsense. When I attended USC in 1976, it was the second most costly college in America, Colgate being the most $$$$ in those days. At nearly $6K a year, I finally left for UC Davis because that was $637/year, courtesy of the California taxpayer. So please do spare us the blanket assertions that are tantamount to bald-faced lies.



    $#@!'s sake man, were you born this bitter?



    Well lessee... I completed work for seven degrees in five majors, all STEM areas. I don't consider it anything over which to brag, but I am most definitely not ashamed of it. I have a small farm, pulled down approximately $4.2 million in twelve years of dotcom insanity, and am comfortable enough. I have perhaps the best wife on the planet, friends for whom my kidneys and indeed my life would be theirs if they needed them. I know several bona fide geniuses, have lunched with a handful of Fortune 100 CEOs, wore $5,000 piece-built suits to work every day, managed huge software development projects, responsible for nearly a billion dollars of other people's money, was an MTS at Bell Labs... Honestly, if I think about it, I have a good deal for which to show, and I've not even gotten into my blacksmithing, piloting, shooting, and other grand interests... not to mention chasing some very worthy women, and on occasion catching one.

    And I'm the poor trash of my circle. So what, exactly, are you going on about?




    You really need to tap-dance the $#@! out of here. I'm glad you've met with material success. I'm happy for anyone who can do it cleanly, and I'm assuming you have. But your generalizations border on the idiotic, I'm sorry to say.




    You appear quite fond of spewing innuendo-laced nonsense. Before uttering more, I'd suggest you go into one of the many bathrooms in your mansion and take a good hard look at who's in the mirror, gawking back at you.



    Now you're just being an ass. You want to know about struggle? I could have you in a heap on the floor. The $#@! I went through you would not even believe, so once again spare us your bile-laced sanctimony.



    You lie. That generation is more in love with those things than any other I can recall, and my memory is quite sharp on such matters. You have no credibility.



    Bull.

    $#@!.

    The scoundrels will say "jump", and you pansies will say "how high, mazza?" GenX is the weakest, most stridently ignorant generation yet, and I will cop to some responsibility of the Boomers for that, what with their misguided good intentions in raising the weak-kneed millennial generation, and here I speak of the statistical mean, fully well acknowledging there are exceptions to every rule. Gauss was a bright boy.




    You $#@!s didn't do $#@!all. You blindly accepted the bull$#@! that was spoon-fed to you and which your parents didn't have the sense to smack the crap out of you to straighten your sorry, fragile, brittle, weak asses out.



    Wow, finally we agree on something. This is certainly the case, but the same can be said for generations prior as well.



    Oh Sally, you're not undoing a damned thing. You're being lead around by your noses at the hands of those who are just about keeling over from laughing at just how abominably stupid you all are. Get. The. $#@!. Out. Judging by what you've written here, you don't know squat. You think you're smart, but you're not nearly so much so.



    Not all of us did, but were you amend your statement to that of a statistical nature, we would agree. We've been doing this for THOUSANDS of years. Have you not been paying attention? Go learn some history and get some wisdom which thus far has evaded you.




    More bull$#@! and lies. Clue time: my generation and the one previous brought you spoiled little cock-suckers the world you take for granted. I was part of the intellectual juggernaut that built the global network. I worked with people of such intellect, they'd crush you as an afterthought. I worked with guys like Kernighan and has a several month-long email war with Stroustrup over whether C++ should become the SOE for AT&T's development endeavors. I've worked on a jet-black project where I was probably the least intelligent team member, the leaders being of such magnitude that I guaRONtee you have never known such blinding creative force. GenZ is a raft of fairy-hopping cry-babies who would never have been able to reproduce what my generation churned out in volumes so staggering, you'd fall to the floor in shame, were you even 10% smart enough to realize what utter $#@! you are peddling here.

    So really, do spare us your phony baloney indignation and venom. You don't have what it takes to wrestle even with me, much less a truly smart man of my generation.

    Now go $#@! off and leave the talking to the adults in the room. This is no place for loud-mouthed twerps.

    Come back when you grow up a little bit.

    The butthurt is strong with that one.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    I don't care to blame the Boomers. But I am angry that the vision of the Founding Fathers was destroyed, most of it in the post-war era. I don't believe the Boomers themselves caused that... the only people to blame are the ruling elites, the very same elites who sent their parents off to the battlefields of Europe, Japan and Korea. They have destroyed every square inch of American culture with their infinity-cash printing-press.

    I just wish I could afford to rent a curbside cardboard box despite earning an above-median income. I seriously cannot figure out how 50+% of this country is even surviving...

    I think we are all to blame. The history of America is the ultimate human tragedy, and not because of <URP> <DERP> slavery.

    Once free of the king's immediate clutches, we should have become as wild and ravening predators, ready to bring to death anyone from "government" who dared so much as suggest some measure that would in even the least measure tiptoe upon the rights of free men. But we had everything against us. Our general Christian/Jewish upbringings and the mannerliness of those cultures pretty well guaRONteed we'd no become the monsters we should have been in response to the least measure of "governmental" trespass. Then there was the thousands of years of breeding to the king's halter. One does not escape that so easily. Then there are the deep and manifold flaws of the Constitution which we have failed to correct.

    Each successive failure built upon all those of the past, and now here we stand. Some of it could perhaps not have been helped, given the overall circumstances, but I think most of it could have. We chose.
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

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  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    The butthurt is strong with that one.
    With which one?
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    With which one?

    The one that’s not you.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    The one that’s not you.
    Ah... I'm slow, but you've probably figured that out by now.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Ah... I'm slow, but you've probably figured that out by now.

    I probably could have been clearer but then it wouldn’t have matched the quote1
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Once free of the king's immediate clutches, we should have become as wild and ravening predators, ready to bring to death anyone from "government" who dared so much as suggest some measure that would in even the least measure tiptoe upon the rights of free men. But we had everything against us. Our general Christian/Jewish upbringings and the mannerliness of those cultures pretty well guaRONteed we'd no become the monsters we should have been in response to the least measure of "governmental" trespass. Then there was the thousands of years of breeding to the king's halter. One does not escape that so easily. Then there are the deep and manifold flaws of the Constitution which we have failed to correct.
    Yeah, I don't agree with that. The "freedom" you are describing is like the "freedom" that beasts have. But they are not free, are they, since they are shackled in the chains of the cruelest slaver of all: Nature. Freedom comes only from God and his Gospel. We should stand up for freedom, and we should set the example of what it means to live freely, in the light, as the saints have done for centuries, often at the cost of their life. And a just government would empower us to defend our natural rights and freedoms with the backing power of the law, rather than impeding them. So, you and I agree that we're all to blame, to some extent.
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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Yeah, I don't agree with that. The "freedom" you are describing is like the "freedom" that beasts have. But they are not free, are they, since they are shackled in the chains of the cruelest slaver of all: Nature. Freedom comes only from God and his Gospel. We should stand up for freedom, and we should set the example of what it means to live freely, in the light, as the saints have done for centuries, often at the cost of their life. And a just government would empower us to defend our natural rights and freedoms with the backing power of the law, rather than impeding them. So, you and I agree that we're all to blame, to some extent.
    Ah, no.

    Recall what government is: an organization with a monopoly of force within a certain geographical area.

    Here I want you to distinguish government from society. They are not only two totally different things, but are potentially antithetical to each other. This is because the essence of government is force, not voluntary cooperation. Everything that people think the government provides (beyond some forms of protection) is really provided by society, or with resources the government has taken from society. It’s critical to understand this, or you won’t see the slippery slope the US is now sliding on.

    Is there any chance that the US government can reform and go back to a sustainable basis at this point?

    I’d say no.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-US-Government
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  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Let us assume this is not only true, but that we are working with a reasonable definition of "selfishness". So what? Here you are parroting one of the left's most repulsive talking points - their endlessly idiotic tirade in condemnation of "selfishness". Surely you can do better than this... if you wanted to.



    Meaningless, substance-free assertion. What are you peddling here?



    Oh do go on while I break out my one-inch violin.



    Now you're talking pure nonsense. When I attended USC in 1976, it was the second most costly college in America, Colgate being the most $$$$ in those days. At nearly $6K a year, I finally left for UC Davis because that was $637/year, courtesy of the California taxpayer. So please do spare us the blanket assertions that are tantamount to bald-faced lies.



    $#@!'s sake man, were you born this bitter?



    Well lessee... I completed work for seven degrees in five majors, all STEM areas. I don't consider it anything over which to brag, but I am most definitely not ashamed of it. I have a small farm, pulled down approximately $4.2 million in twelve years of dotcom insanity, and am comfortable enough. I have perhaps the best wife on the planet, friends for whom my kidneys and indeed my life would be theirs if they needed them. I know several bona fide geniuses, have lunched with a handful of Fortune 100 CEOs, wore $5,000 piece-built suits to work every day, managed huge software development projects, responsible for nearly a billion dollars of other people's money, was an MTS at Bell Labs... Honestly, if I think about it, I have a good deal for which to show, and I've not even gotten into my blacksmithing, piloting, shooting, and other grand interests... not to mention chasing some very worthy women, and on occasion catching one.

    And I'm the poor trash of my circle. So what, exactly, are you going on about?




    You really need to tap-dance the $#@! out of here. I'm glad you've met with material success. I'm happy for anyone who can do it cleanly, and I'm assuming you have. But your generalizations border on the idiotic, I'm sorry to say.




    You appear quite fond of spewing innuendo-laced nonsense. Before uttering more, I'd suggest you go into one of the many bathrooms in your mansion and take a good hard look at who's in the mirror, gawking back at you.



    Now you're just being an ass. You want to know about struggle? I could have you in a heap on the floor. The $#@! I went through you would not even believe, so once again spare us your bile-laced sanctimony.



    You lie. That generation is more in love with those things than any other I can recall, and my memory is quite sharp on such matters. You have no credibility.



    Bull.

    $#@!.

    The scoundrels will say "jump", and you pansies will say "how high, mazza?" GenX is the weakest, most stridently ignorant generation yet, and I will cop to some responsibility of the Boomers for that, what with their misguided good intentions in raising the weak-kneed millennial generation, and here I speak of the statistical mean, fully well acknowledging there are exceptions to every rule. Gauss was a bright boy.




    You $#@!s didn't do $#@!all. You blindly accepted the bull$#@! that was spoon-fed to you and which your parents didn't have the sense to smack the crap out of you to straighten your sorry, fragile, brittle, weak asses out.



    Wow, finally we agree on something. This is certainly the case, but the same can be said for generations prior as well.



    Oh Sally, you're not undoing a damned thing. You're being lead around by your noses at the hands of those who are just about keeling over from laughing at just how abominably stupid you all are. Get. The. $#@!. Out. Judging by what you've written here, you don't know squat. You think you're smart, but you're not nearly so much so.



    Not all of us did, but were you amend your statement to that of a statistical nature, we would agree. We've been doing this for THOUSANDS of years. Have you not been paying attention? Go learn some history and get some wisdom which thus far has evaded you.




    More bull$#@! and lies. Clue time: my generation and the one previous brought you spoiled little cock-suckers the world you take for granted. I was part of the intellectual juggernaut that built the global network. I worked with people of such intellect, they'd crush you as an afterthought. I worked with guys like Kernighan and has a several month-long email war with Stroustrup over whether C++ should become the SOE for AT&T's development endeavors. I've worked on a jet-black project where I was probably the least intelligent team member, the leaders being of such magnitude that I guaRONtee you have never known such blinding creative force. GenZ is a raft of fairy-hopping cry-babies who would never have been able to reproduce what my generation churned out in volumes so staggering, you'd fall to the floor in shame, were you even 10% smart enough to realize what utter $#@! you are peddling here.

    So really, do spare us your phony baloney indignation and venom. You don't have what it takes to wrestle even with me, much less a truly smart man of my generation.

    Now go $#@! off and leave the talking to the adults in the room. This is no place for loud-mouthed twerps.

    Come back when you grow up a little bit.
    Boomer asks questions then cries about the answers. I’m in awe of your life story, truly I am. And it’s led you to 16,000+ posts on an Internet message board. Suffice to say retirement ain’t what it’s cracked up to be.

    Liberals complaining about selfishness is just envy that they want it for themselves, essentially becoming the selfish they criticize. That’s not me talking about Boomers. I don’t envy Boomers. I point out how after a lifetime of Easy Street, will full awareness of the economic plight of younger generations thanks to the demolition and deindustrialization thanks to Boomer voting habits, Boomers won’t lift a finger to phase out entitlements. They’d rather have it choke every last cent they can out of young families before they’d admit it’s for the best to wind these nightmares down.

    That’s the selfishness Boomers have. It ain’t anything like Lefties who desire and covet others’ stuff. I have zero interest in entitlements. Boomers love it.

    Proof is in the pudding, buddy. Look at the size of government. Thank Boomers for that. I do laugh at how Millennials have began the homeschooling boom. When I was a kid, Boomers all thought homeschooled kids were default weird and the entire concept was a laughing joke. Thanks for juicing the teachers’ unions and encumbering my property tax bill with 28 line-items of bonds from decades past.

    Like I said, abortions peaked in 1990 at 1.4+ million—overwhelmingly by Boomers; today we have 600k—overwhelmingly Millennials. With 83 million more people in the US. Millennials aren’t butchering their offspring like Boomers did. There’s the selfishness spoken of right there. We’re correcting so many of Boomer wrongs.

    Thanks for the cable TV bundle, though. It is amusing to look back on stupid $#@! Boomers were accustomed to. High bureaucracy, deterioration of quality, etc. etc.

    Thanks for being handed the greatest economic machine in human history and proceeding to squander it like drunk socialites while condescendingly patting everyone else on the head.

    Boomers: Born on 3rd Base and they all believe they hit a triple.

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    The butthurt is strong with that one.
    Literally answering smug Boomers who disingenuously complain and take responsibility that it’s really all their fault because they were too good of parents to us. Awwww…hahahahaha. Hilarious.

    Enjoy retirement, Boomers. We’ll let entitlements go their natural way in the next few years, and we’ll fix all these broken industries like education.

    Thanks again for those cable TV bundles. Boomer mentality.
    Last edited by Gaddafi Duck; 06-01-2023 at 11:01 PM.

  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaddafi Duck View Post

    Boomers: Born on 3rd Base and they all believe they hit a triple.
    This Boomer split wood for heat growing up, there was no back-up and no air-conditioning. We gardened and canned, raised and butchered our own meat and Mom sewed most of our clothes, there were six of is kids. Dad traveled all week in order to earn enough to cover the bills.
    Maybe you see golden opportunities looking back on a time you never experienced, but that's always the case, especially for those who harbor a victim mentality.
    Politicians more than any group guide/misguide society, that fact has been true for many generations yet all of the voting age generations continue to play by their rules. My generation didn't have the spine to reign them in and from where I'm sitting yours certainly doesn't. You Millennials do whine and complain very well. (Doesn't group-think suck?)
    All of us were given a clearly written instruction manual on how to conduct the business of governing society and every generation has permitted those documents to be altered and amended, even interpreted differently than the clearly written instructions, then we collectively pat ourselves on the back for advancing society whilst it crumbles around us.
    All of us deserve this mess we've created because we tolerate it.

  24. #21
    I don't know if the implication that no boomers at all tried to resist the creeping crud is more ridiculous, or the pipe dream that younger generations have enough more wise people and fewer suckers to meaningfully change direction.

    There's a sucker born every minute. They compose a majority of every generation. Anyone who thinks that history teaches us anything different is a fool begging to be played.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 06-02-2023 at 06:01 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  25. #22
    After giving this a few more cups of coffee there may be other factors at play.

    "The Boomers" are the last generation who were raised in intact households, by and large.

    All succeeding generations have been exposed to 'single mother syndrome', either directly or indirectly.

    Even in the most upscale environments the influence of single mothers plays a role in societies development, and yes us Boomers started this and it's a cancer that's growing at an alarming rate, probably faster than government.

    The idea that 'widows and children' must be supported has been exploited for 3 generations now and the younger folks accept this as normal. The widows and children who needed support a few generations ago were struggling due to no fault of their own, statistically. Today it's become a vocation. All due to government interference.

    Yet this form of perceived victimhood ranks right up there for the younger generations with weirdos and minorities.

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaddafi Duck View Post
    Boomer asks questions then cries about the answers.
    Clearly there is no reasoning with you. You make blind, unsupported assertions, implicitly assuming some moral high ground, which in fact you do not hold. Whatever gets you through your days is OK by me.

    I’m in awe of your life story, truly I am. And it’s led you to 16,000+ posts on an Internet message board.
    You stab at irrelevancies in the weak attempt to discredit me and appear as if you had something of value to offer. Seriously little pal, you need a whole lot more game if you wish to fence with a cagey old bastard such as myself.

    Suffice to say retirement ain’t what it’s cracked up to be.
    Once again, what is your point, beyond the weak and obvious?

    Liberals complaining about selfishness is just envy that they want it for themselves,
    We do not disagree on this point, but what is the relevant connection here? It's like you're all over the map. You are clearly running on raw emotion, using your brain as a hat-rack, which isn't God's intended function for that particular organ. It seems you are capable of better, yet here you are. What's eating you?

    The rest is jself-evidently just a re-wash of what you'd previously written, and merits no response. For what it may be worth to you, perhaps nothing, I hope you get over you bile, get some sense, and free yourself of the pointless anger that so clearly drives your views. Trust someone who knows better that not only do you dwell in falsehood, the optics are not very good.

    Best wishes.
    Last edited by osan; 06-02-2023 at 09:13 AM.
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I don't know if the implication that no boomers at all tried to resist the creeping crud is more ridiculous, or the pipe dream that younger generations have enough more wise people and fewer suckers to meaningfully change direction.

    There's a sucker born every minute. They compose a majority of every generation. Anyone who thinks that history teaches us anything different is a fool begging to be played.
    That's close enough to BINGO to call it.

    Well stated.

    That said, time will prove the kitten just how woefully mistaken he is.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Yeah, I don't agree with that. The "freedom" you are describing is like the "freedom" that beasts have.
    Not quite clear on what you mean by this?

    But they are not free, are they, since they are shackled in the chains of the cruelest slaver of all: Nature.
    OK, but by your reasoning, it is a short hop to "we are all slaves of gravity". This world is limited in certain, and I confidently assume very well considered, ways. I take your point well, but to adopt such a view is self-defeating, IMO. The proverbial "gravity issues" are fact. They constitute a very significant part of our realities and are, thus far, unbreakable. Until we figure ways around them, much as we figured our way into powered flight and putting men into orbit, they remain as unbreakable circumscriptions upon our choices. Why fret such matters when to do so is perfectly futile?

    The precise same may be said of God's graces. We remain limited by certain factors of reality. It makes us no less free, if we choose to see things that way. An there, my pal, is the real rub. This is where the tyrants manage their black magick - it lies in the boundaries Theye draw. God bounds us. Nature bounds us. Tyrants, too, bound us, albeit far more tightly than either of the former, and they get away with it for no other reason than the fact that we do not rise to butcher them and their innocent children.

    Might may not make right, but at the end of the day it makes reality. It's all bull$#@!, but it is nonetheless that with which we must put up precisely because we are too corrupted with whatever failings to become the monsters we were born to be under certain circumstances. And that is why I say this is ALL on us. The rational, reasonable, and honest man does not blame the viper with which he tried to make friends when the snake bites him. So it is with the sorts of men who seek power and control over others. That we fail to murder them to the man is the great evil we bring down upon ourselves. It is ugly and no good man wants to do it, but to be such a coward as to allow the lives of one's own children to be unnecessarily and unjustly ruined by those who do evil as matters of the blood circulating through their veins, is not forgivable. And that is where we all stand at this moment. Theye will never stop until we stop them. It is a simple as that. Diplomacy will not work. Sitting in a global-sized circle singing songs will not work. Naught but brute force, applied with no hint of reticence or other equivocation will Theye accept. Destruction of the enemies of liberty is the only way to ensure freedom remains every man's reality who wishes it. As for those seeking to be guided through their lives, every step, leave them to the damnation they impose upon themselves, so long as they make no effort to spread their cancers to others. And when they do, serve unto them the same fate as you would to "government". Destroy them; stamp out their genetic line. When this is the reward for crimes against one's fellows, behavior suddenly improves, as if by miracle.

    It ain't rocket surgery.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    After giving this a few more cups of coffee there may be other factors at play.

    "The Boomers" are the last generation who were raised in intact households, by and large.

    All succeeding generations have been exposed to 'single mother syndrome', either directly or indirectly.

    Even in the most upscale environments the influence of single mothers plays a role in societies development, and yes us Boomers started this and it's a cancer that's growing at an alarming rate, probably faster than government.

    The idea that 'widows and children' must be supported has been exploited for 3 generations now and the younger folks accept this as normal. The widows and children who needed support a few generations ago were struggling due to no fault of their own, statistically. Today it's become a vocation. All due to government interference.

    Yet this form of perceived victimhood ranks right up there for the younger generations with weirdos and minorities.
    I'm not a boomer but I agree with this assessment. I think the issue is not to confuse correlation and causation. The once staunchly Christian culture of the US went into a nose-dive in the post-war era. Does that mean it was caused by that generation? I think the answer is yes-and-no. No, because we must not ignore the effects of the massive welfare-warfare State that was constructed by Roosevelt and the rest of that political wing, funded by infinity-cash from the Fed. It's 2023 and we're just starting to figure out the truth about what hit the boomer generation. They had no clue the monster that was waiting for them, and their parents even less. But there is also some responsibility in each generation for the things they know are wrong, but which they tolerate anyway. Sure, the boomers couldn't have figured out the control-matrix that the psychopaths in London, DC, etc. had secretly conspired to impose on them. But they had pretty good knowledge of the Bible compared to today's generation, so they really knew that loose-living was immoral but tolerated it anyway. We no longer even know that. How far we have fallen...
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    This Boomer split wood for heat growing up, there was no back-up and no air-conditioning. We gardened and canned, raised and butchered our own meat and Mom sewed most of our clothes, there were six of is kids. Dad traveled all week in order to earn enough to cover the bills.
    Maybe you see golden opportunities looking back on a time you never experienced, but that's always the case, especially for those who harbor a victim mentality.
    Politicians more than any group guide/misguide society, that fact has been true for many generations yet all of the voting age generations continue to play by their rules. My generation didn't have the spine to reign them in and from where I'm sitting yours certainly doesn't. You Millennials do whine and complain very well. (Doesn't group-think suck?)
    All of us were given a clearly written instruction manual on how to conduct the business of governing society and every generation has permitted those documents to be altered and amended, even interpreted differently than the clearly written instructions, then we collectively pat ourselves on the back for advancing society whilst it crumbles around us.
    All of us deserve this mess we've created because we tolerate it.
    Again, talking about the world Boomers inherited here once they hit the age of majority—not the sacrifices their parents went through in the Depression and WWII that were lost on Boomers entirely. Everything was cheap and plentiful and Boomers never thought outside of their immediate me-me-me.

    Literally zero victim mentality here. It’s obvious Boomers have a misinterpretation problem. The guy before said I had a Leftist mentality as if I lusted for other people’s material goods. Way off the mark. I’m pointing out Boomers’ innate self-centeredness that runs the gambit from the highest rates of abortion (Boomer generation) exemplifying this selfishness all the way to entitlements that were never reformed, to today where Boomers had a lifetime to course correct but instead all they elect to do is keep entitlements at the expense of their kids they supposedly loved so much.

    So it’s rich listening to Boomers scoff and snub Millennials for being bratty. Meanwhile, Boomers will hold up a checkout line arguing about why they can’t stack a $1 coupon with a 50 cent coupon. Or they’re the first to complain and exclaim about an $8 Big Mac meal. Little do you realize Millennials never do such things because we’ve internalized the $#@!ty high cost of living Boomers blessed us all with. So we don’t waste our time arguing with minimum wage employees about the effing restaurant bill. Boomers do that. They love to make a scene about how expensive things are. Now a Boomer reading all of this will AGAIN misinterpret that with “Oh we just know/appreciate the value of a dollar..” Nope. Wrong. It illustrates how Boomers were handed a high standard of living and squandered it and now complain about $8 value meals by making a scene. And the world revolves around them as it has their 6-7 decades, so their only concern is making sure that extra 50 cent coupon stacks even if it takes 10 minutes for a manager to just say “Whatever…” after arguing fruitlessly with a Boomer who’s backing up a line and ruining commerce. The manager just manually overrides and grants the price correction even though the coupon’s fine print says it can’t be stacked, but a Boomer is steadfast in their resolve, ahem…self-centered stubbornness, that they don’t care about inconveniencing a dozen other people’s day. A savings of fifty cents is worth it to them. And they justify it as “thriftiness” like they’re from a generation they never were a part of.

    Literally none of this is victim mentality. Millennials realize it is what it is. I want nothing from Boomers. I just enjoy pointing out to Boomers how they like to act like they were their parents’ generation while projecting their whiny immaturities on their kids’ generation. And then them taking the blame to puff their chests out to the world is that it’s their fault they loved their kids so much.

    Yeah, that’s engrained entitlement brought to you by Boomers where disingenuous apologies go to build their egos in the most backhanded ways possible. Millennials are screwed up because Boomers just did everything for us. Awww, thanks, Boomers. Just an incredible generation impressed with their own existence.
    Last edited by Gaddafi Duck; 06-02-2023 at 11:18 AM.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    I'm not a boomer but I agree with this assessment. I think the issue is not to confuse correlation and causation. The once staunchly Christian culture of the US went into a nose-dive in the post-war era. Does that mean it was caused by that generation? I think the answer is yes-and-no. No, because we must not ignore the effects of the massive welfare-warfare State that was constructed by Roosevelt and the rest of that political wing, funded by infinity-cash from the Fed. It's 2023 and we're just starting to figure out the truth about what hit the boomer generation. They had no clue the monster that was waiting for them, and their parents even less. But there is also some responsibility in each generation for the things they know are wrong, but which they tolerate anyway. Sure, the boomers couldn't have figured out the control-matrix that the psychopaths in London, DC, etc. had secretly conspired to impose on them. But they had pretty good knowledge of the Bible compared to today's generation, so they really knew that loose-living was immoral but tolerated it anyway. We no longer even know that. How far we have fallen...
    Absolutely, the Christian culture collapsed largely thanks to the Boomer generation. Millennials are picking up the pieces and basically rediscovering Christianity no thanks to the lack of upbringing from Boomers.

    I’ll say again, abortion peaked in 1990. 1.4 million a year. That’s when Boomers were having their last kid/aborting their last kid. Today, abortion is around 600k a year…with 83 million more people in the country. So abortion collapsed. Millennials aren’t butchering their kids like Boomers did. I can’t think of a more selfish act than abortion, so no surprise Boomers had the most abortions and the only thing stopping them from having more was natural aging out of fertility.

    So yeah, Christianity and Christian values are being revitalized today, which is a much bigger task to accomplish given Millennials didnt grow up with good examples, despite how Boomers insist they were incredible parents. Boomers grew up with church life from a better generation, and then turned their backs and didn’t carry and pass the torch to Millennials. So if I can give Millennials kudos, at least we’re not getting abortions out of expediency, even though the personal economics for families today are WAAAY tougher vs. what Boomers dealt with.

    Imagine a Boomer buying their first home today. What’s the cost of a median house—$400k??? Boomers would’ve aborted all of their kids at the price of these homes. Boomers’ homes were $50k and rode them up and swapped higher. Many Millennials can’t even buy a starter home. Yet we aren’t aborting our kids to afford a home. No question Boomers would do that for an excuse. Heck, what was the excuse Boomers had in the 1980s aborting millions of Millennials? Was is too difficult to live in 1985 with such high expenses as 80 cent gasoline? A $300 mortgage payment? Hilarious.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaddafi Duck View Post
    Again, talking about the world Boomers inherited here once they hit the age of majority—not the sacrifices their parents went through in the Depression and WWII that were lost on Boomers entirely. Everything was cheap and plentiful and Boomers never thought outside of their immediate me-me-me.

    Literally zero victim mentality here. It’s obvious Boomers have a misinterpretation problem. The guy before said I had a Leftist mentality as if I lusted for other people’s material goods. Way off the mark. I’m pointing out Boomers’ innate self-centeredness that runs the gambit from the highest rates of abortion (Boomer generation) exemplifying this selfishness all the way to entitlements that were never reformed, to today where Boomers had a lifetime to course correct but instead all they elect to do is keep entitlements at the expense of their kids they supposedly loved so much.

    So it’s rich listening to Boomers scoff and snub Millennials for being bratty. Meanwhile, Boomers will hold up a checkout line arguing about why they can’t stack a $1 coupon with a 50 cent coupon. Or they’re the first to complain and exclaim about an $8 Big Mac meal. Little do you realize Millennials never do such things because we’ve internalized the $#@!ty high cost of living Boomers blessed us all with. So we don’t waste our time arguing with minimum wage employees about the effing restaurant bill. Boomers do that. They love to make a scene about how expensive things are. Now a Boomer reading all of this will AGAIN misinterpret that with “Oh we just know/appreciate the value of a dollar..” Nope. Wrong. It illustrates how Boomers were handed a high standard of living and squandered it and now complain about $8 value meals by making a scene.

    Literally none of this is victim mentality. Millennials realize it is what it is. I want nothing from Boomers. I just enjoy pointing out to Boomers how they like to act like they were their parents’ generation while projecting their whiny immaturities on their kids’ generation. And then them taking the blame to puff their chests out to the world is that it’s their fault they loved their kids so much.

    Yeah, that’s engrained entitlement brought to you by Boomers where disingenuous apologies go to build their egos in the most backhanded ways possible. Millennials are screwed up because Boomers just did everything for us. Awww, thanks, Boomers. Just an incredible generation impressed with their own existence.
    Maybe you'd care to point out one issue I raised?

    It's understandable that you don't appreciate the world you've inherited, most generations don't. Just as most generations try their best to "reform" society in order to suit them at any given stage in their life.

    I tend to view the past generations, our ancestors, as people who tried to do their best. Many were foolish, some were greedy but by and large each generation leaves the world more advanced and the worldwide standard of living improved.

    It takes a special kind of victim to whine about inheriting a world with modern housing/transportation and widespread knowledge, that or exceptionally stupid and entitled person who claims to not be a victim while sniveling about their lot in life...

    Maybe......Just maybe......A few decades of toil, a few relationships, a few business endeavors and a few children will change your outlook? Or maybe not.

    How you view your life and what you do to improve it will be judged by your children and their children.

    I'm proud of my ancestors, maybe you can be too someday.

    One thing is certain, the soapbox of the interwebs lets more voices be heard than any time in history.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Clearly there is no reasoning with you. You make blind, unsupported assertions, implicitly assuming some moral high ground, which in fact you do not hold. Whatever gets you through your days is OK by me.



    You stab at irrelevancies in the weak attempt to discredit me and appear as if you had something of value to offer. Seriously little pal, you need a whole lot more game if you wish to fence with a cagey old bastard such as myself.



    Once again, what is your point, beyond the weak and obvious?



    We do not disagree on this point, but what is the relevant connection here? It's like you're all over the map. You are clearly running on raw emotion, using your brain as a hat-rack, which isn't God's intended function for that particular organ. It seems you are capable of better, yet here you are. What's eating you?

    The rest is jself-evidently just a re-wash of what you'd previously written, and merits no response. For what it may be worth to you, perhaps nothing, I hope you get over you bile, get some sense, and free yourself of the pointless anger that so clearly drives your views. Trust someone who knows better that not only do you dwell in falsehood, the optics are not very good.

    Best wishes.

    Say what you want, but Boomers own the fact they are the kings of abortion. You get that from rampant entitlement/selfishness. You wonder why what I said about selfishness is relevant—you asked!

    To sum up, Boomers take blame for being just too good of parents and they were admittedly naive for doing so. That sums up Boomers. The best accountability from them is to apologize for too much love and care.

    Here are the cliff notes:

    1. Boomers had the most abortions
    2. Boomers will hold up a checkout line arguing and demanding their multi-50 cent coupons stack despite the fine print.
    This ruins everyone else’s day, but to a Boomer, their 50 cent coupon is the most important thing in the world. Everyone else can shut up and enjoy the logjam.
    3. Boomers will make a scene about the cost of an $8 value meal. Boomers will argue with minimum wage employees about the cost of a restaurant tab and cause unjustified grief. Because, again, the only thing that matters to Boomers is themselves.

    Millennials won’t badger entry level workers for the price of things. We understand inflation has lowered the standards of living in this country. Boomers think it’s an absolute outrage their large Dairy Queen Blizzard was $6.73 with tax. Millennials pay the bill and move on without comment. A Boomer can’t resist making a comment. “HOW MUCH?!?!!!!” It’s rather comical and embarrassing anytime I see a Boomer make a cashier or waiter feel uncomfortable having to explain to these precious Boomers how things cost money and, well, the price is listed on the menu before you effing buy it.

    Best of all, Boomers get massively offended after they mock Millennials to which most of us just will reply with “OK, Boomer.” Kinda funny they dish it out and try to insult us, but are obviously so sensitive themselves they can’t even handle a dismissive waive of the hand without being triggered. Millennials simply don’t care. I just feel compelled to explain to Boomers who feel the need to go out of their way to denigrate Millennials the reality, and how oblivious Boomers are to how they act. Again, they project their own whiny attitudes onto their kids in their own minds while fancying themselves as a rugged generation of their parents/grandparents that they clearly didn’t endure.
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