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Thread: The ATF's Pistol Brace BAN Could Make You A Criminal

  1. #31
    Meh, I already break at least 3 Federal laws a day. What's one more?



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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Meh, I already break at least 3 Federal laws a day. What's one more?
    Reported

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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...01369829691393
    Hmmmmm.....I wonder where Joe Biden got the idea to ban a gun accessory by executive order.....

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/polit...ban/index.html
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  8. #36
    Defense distributed won a preliminary injunction against the ATF's proposed changes. Their 80% lowers are once again for sale


    Defense Distributed's Case in US District Court, VanDerStrok v. Garland was just granted a preliminary injunction. The lawsuit is challenging the scope of ATF's ability to change the definition of firearms.

    According to court documents, ATF did not analyze their "Frame or Receiver Rule," also known as Biden's Ghost Gun Rule, under the Supreme Court's NYSRPA v. Bruen decision.

    For those unaware, the Bruen decision completely changed the legal landscape of firearms law in the US by requiring statutes regulating firearms to be rooted in the text, history, and tradition of the Second Amendment.

    The Judge in the case concurred with the statement and granted Defense Distributed a preliminary injunction. The case now heads to the 5th Circuit, where ATF will have to defend its position.

    ...more at link...

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  9. #37
    Rep. Massie: ATF Pistol Brace Rule "Sweeps Millions Of Firearms Into A Registry"



    The ATF pistol brace rule requires millions of gun owners to register firearms because they own a piece of plastic. It also sweeps millions of firearms into a registry without an act of Congress.
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  10. #38
    Rep Massie Tells ATF Director Dettelbach: You Don't Have The Authority To Reclassify Pistol Braces



    On June 1st, millions of owners of unregistered pistol braces will become felons thanks to a rule implemented by ATF Director Steven Dettelbach. Congress did not pass a law allowing him to reclassify pistol braces. He does not have the authority to do what he did.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  11. #39
    This whole thing is beyond stupid.



    They were really trying to ban handguns from the beginning and settled on banning short barreled rifles.

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    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  12. #40
    What.

    An.

    Ass.

    He should be charged and sent to prison for life, genpop, no chance of parole. Let the wolves have him, as welcome.

    Mine are intended as SBR that are not registered. Come get me, motherfuckers. I'm done with the tyrants. Stick a fork in me.
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    ATF dude is lying through his teeth. Many if not most of the pistol braces that have been sold were specifically authorized by the ATF on a per-product basis.

    Nothing about the manufacturing has changed at all.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  16. #43

    Thumbs down ATF extorting Americans with pistol brace rule:

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  17. #44

    Thumbs up Pistol Brace Rule Just Stopped In Court:

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    "A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst

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    https://twitter.com/GunOwners/status...51485164699764
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  19. #46
    Oh wow Biden's 4D pro-gun chess is working!
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  20. #47
    https://x.com/gunpolicy/status/1801253523260162556


    FPC WIN: Biden/ATF “Pistol Brace” Ban Vacated
    https://www.firearmspolicy.org/biden...ce-ban-vacated
    {Firearms Policy Coalition | 13 June 2024}

    [emphasis in the original - OB]

    FORT WORTH, TX (June 13, 2024) – Today, Firearms Policy Coalition announced a major legal victory in its Mock v. Garland lawsuit challenging the Biden Administration’s “pistol brace” ban rule issued by the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). In the decision, United States District Court Judge Reed O’Connor granted summary judgment in favor of FPC and its co-plaintiffs and issued a final judgment and order vacating the ATF’s rule. The case and opinion can be found at FPCLegal.org.

    “The Biden Administration’s ATF hates us so much that it lawlessly acted to turn millions of gun owners into felons, but FPC and our members ran towards the fire and defeated this evil,” said FPC President Brandon Combs. “Today’s order shows that our community can take on an immoral government and win. FPC members should be proud of what was accomplished today. We look forward to defending this victory on appeal and up to the Supreme Court, just as we have in other cases.”

    Today’s victory is one in a line of FPC community successes against the Biden Administration. Indeed, the United States Supreme Court recently agreed to hear one of FPC’s cases in which it prevailed in the courts below [see this thread - OB].

    The plaintiffs are represented by attorneys Cody Wisniewski of FPC Action Foundation, Bradley Benbrook and Stephen Duvernay of the Benbrook Law Group, and R. Brent Cooper and Benjamin Passey of Cooper & Scully. Plaintiffs in this case are two individual FPC members, Maxim Defense, and FPC. FPC Action Foundation represented the Plaintiffs, alongside Benbrook Law. FPC expects the Mock decision and remedy to be appealed by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ).

    Individuals who want to support this and other cases can join the FPC Grassroots Army at JoinFPC.org or make a tax-deductible donation to the FPC Action Foundation here. For more on FPC’s lawsuits and other pro-Second Amendment initiatives, visit FPCLegal.org and follow FPC on Instagram, X (Twitter), Facebook, YouTube.

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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Hmmmmm.....I wonder where Joe Biden got the idea to ban a gun accessory by executive order.....

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/polit...ban/index.html
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Oh wow Biden's 4D pro-gun chess is working!
    It's only pro-gun when Trump does it, when Biden does it it's obv anti-2A
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post

    FPC WIN: Biden/ATF “Pistol Brace” Ban Vacated
    Huzzah!
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    It's only pro-gun when Trump does it, when Biden does it it's obv anti-2A
    Biden fell into Trump's trap.
    This will end with the FAT no longer able to legislate from the bureaucracy and probably with multiple actual gun control laws overturned.
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