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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    You're actually defending EVs?
    Would I be defending EVs if I pointed out that the same engine can be used to power a snowmobile or a motorcycle?
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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  3. #62
    Martin Bormann, Phone Home

    https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2022...an-phone-home/

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    eric -
    December 9, 2022

    You have probably heard about – and may even know – people who refused to buy VWs and Mercedes-Benzes because of the dealings of those companies with the government of national socialist Germany during the years the national socialists ran Germany. Well, how about cars made under the auspices of the Chinese Communist Party?

    You know, Teslas.

    Word has just leached out that Elon Musk will be importing a Chinese executive to oversee the new Tesla plant in Austin, Texas. His name is Tom Zhu and The Street says the Texas gig may be just a stepping stone to his next gig as the future CEO of Tesla.

    Some might say this is comparable to having someone like Martin Bormann – a high official of the national socialist government of Germany – oversee a VW plant in America.

    It’s worse, arguably – because there weren’t any VW (or other German) automobile plants in America while the national socialists were in power in Germany. By the time there were, the national socialists hadn’t been in control of Germany for decades. Buying a VW or Benz or Audi years after the national socialists had been removed from power did not empower national socialists.

    But what about buying a Tesla built by a company that not only has direct ties to China but has a senior executive who is an emissary-agent of the Chinese Communist Party?

    No one becomes a senior executive in China who is not approved by the Chinese Communist Party, which controls everything in China.

    Put more bluntly, it means that Zhu does what he is told by the Chinese Communist Party.

    And now he will be here in America – in Texas – doing what he is told by the Chinese Communist Party.

    Zhu previously oversaw the building of Tesla’s so-called “Supercharger” network of “fast” electric car chargers in Shanghai. His new, possibly stepping-stone gig in Texas will be to “ramp up” the Giga Texas factory where the Tesla Model Y and – supposedly – Cybertruck – will be built.

    All of this is interesting on a number of levels, the most obvious being that China is very interested in controlling American transportation. Just as it effectively controls American communications, via the smartphones that are almost all made in China. Ever wonder what the Chinese Communist Party may have had embedded in the phone you’re carrying around? The one that can be used to track and control you – as they do with smartphones in China?

    It is established that the app Tik Tok many Americans have on their phones is a Chinese-developed/Chinese-owned data-mining/propaganda-propagation tool that does what the Chinese Communist Party tells it to do.

    To America.

    Controlling Americans will be greatly facilitated by getting Americans into electric cars – and not just those made by Tesla. All electric cars depend upon components largely made in China and so under the control of the Chinese Communist Party. Which means the Chinese Communist Party has an effective controlling stake in American electric car production, too.

    There is a great deal of money involved.

    That is the lever the Chinese Communist Party will use to get American car companies to do what the Chinese Communist Party wants them to do – to Americans.

    Just as the money controlled by the Chinese Communist Party exerts a controlling influence over American entertainment. Viz, Tom Cruise – a massively rich movie star – who was obliged to kowtow to the Chinese Communist Party by removing the “offensive” patch depicting the flag of Taiwan from his aviator jacket in the recently released sequel to the classic Top Gun movie of the ’80s. The latter was filmed before the Chinese Communist Party gained leverage over Hollywood.

    The Chinese Communist Party also wields immense leverage over American professional athletics. Viz, the kowtowing of the National Basketball Association to the Chinese Communist Party’s umbrage over “offensive” Tweets made by former Houston Rockets General Manage Daryl Morey about “standing with Hong Kong.”

    Better sit down. Good doggie!

    The New York Post – one of the few practitioners of journalism remaining in America – observed the following in an article earlier this year:

    “Nets owner Joe Tsai, the executive vice chairman of Chinese firm Alibaba, has 53.5 percent of his wealth tied to China. Other owners named with big business in China included the Heat’s Micky Arison, the Grizzlies’ Robert Pera, the Sixers’ Josh Harris and the Rockets’ Tilman Fertitta. Michael Jordan, who owns the Hornets, also has an enormous brand in China through his affiliation with Nike’s Jordan Brand.”

    This is how the Chinese Communist Party has acquired a controlling interest in America. And Tesla is a kind of American subsidiary of the Chinese Communist Party. One that will perhaps shortly be headed in America by a representative of the Chinese Communist Party.

    Martin Bormann, phone home.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    You're actually defending EVs?
    I am.

    Electric Motors are Superior to ICE.

    Power storage has improved and continues to do so..

    and Hydrogen is just entering the Arena.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Would I be defending EVs if I pointed out that the same engine can be used to power a snowmobile or a motorcycle?
    And Boats and Aircraft.. and Space ships.

    https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...etary-missions
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The latter was filmed before the Chinese Communist Party gained leverage over Hollywood.
    Yes, back when there was at least a façade of America left.

    It's both fascinating and tragic to be living at this time in history. It's probably not unlike living in, say, Dalmatia in about 450 AD... not quite yet affected by the collapsing empire, but certainly the fall is on the horizon.

    Can I say "AD"? Or have I offended a blue hair somewhere?

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Can I say "AD"? Or have I offended a blue hair somewhere?
    I think "CE" - for "Common Era" - is preferred (and likewise, "BCE" for "Before Common Era").

    Though you probably shouldn't ask "what is 'common' about it, among whom is it 'common' - and why?".
    (Doing so would be uncouth and obnoxious - not to mention almost certainly racist, misogynist, etc.).

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    I think "CE" - for "Common Era" - is preferred (and likewise, "BCE" for "Before Common Era").

    Though you probably shouldn't ask "what is 'common' about it, among whom is it 'common' - and why?".
    (Doing so would be uncouth and obnoxious - not to mention almost certainly racist, misogynist, etc.).
    I'm always going to be a BC/AD guy. If it ruffles the feathers of people who don't like it, I can live with that.
    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”

    H.L. Mencken

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    I think "CE" - for "Common Era" - is preferred (and likewise, "BCE" for "Before Common Era").

    Though you probably shouldn't ask "what is 'common' about it, among whom is it 'common' - and why?".
    (Doing so would be uncouth and obnoxious - not to mention almost certainly racist, misogynist, etc.).
    To me, the "CE"/"BCE" usage is just round hole/square peg nonsense - the delineation, regardless of whether the heathens want to admit it, is the birth of Christ. Thus, after that date (however imprecise it may be), is "the year of our Lord" or, "Anno Domini". And so I will will use BC/AD, regardless of whether the blue hairs get "triggered". Let them be triggered. They need to learn to deal with difficulty.

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    As typical with The Count, he finally gets around to contradicting his original point. (seriously, it's like nailing Jell-O to the wall with this poster)
    View it as a contradiction if you want. I don't see it that way. The OP clearly thinks that people will choose not to fill an increased demand for electricity. I say that's not how markets work. You can say "buuuh but government" if you want, as though that somehow changes things. It doesn't.


    Imagine if in the 1970s you said "catalytic converters can't work." Your evidence for that was that in 1974 there wasn't enough catalytic converter production in the world to match global vehicle production. And the argument is that because the requirement for cats is driven by government regulation, rather than happening "organically," cat production will never increase to meet the government-driven demand.
    Last edited by TheCount; 12-10-2022 at 11:52 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    View it as a contradiction if you want. I don't see it that way. The OP clearly thinks that people will choose not to fill an increased demand for electricity. I say that's not how markets work. You can say "buuuh but government" if you want, as though that somehow changes things. It doesn't.


    Imagine if in the 1970s you said "catalytic converters can't work." Your evidence for that was that in 1974 there wasn't enough catalytic converter production in the world to match global vehicle production. And the argument is that because the requirement for cats is driven by government regulation, rather than happening "organically," cat production will never increase to meet the government-driven demand.
    I, and by extension Eric Peters, are not saying demand won't be filled.

    We are saying it cannot be filled.

    Under the current regulatory and technical environment, 23 million megawatts of extra capacity cannot be created.

    Now, it could be, if market forces were allowed to develop and build on existing generating capacity and technology.

    But they are not.

    Nuclear, natural gas, coal, hydro and oil generating are all, for all intents and purposes banned for new construction.

    We're all sitting around arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, debating the merits of new technologies vs old.

    That is not what this is all about.

    This is deliberate Marxist scarcity being imposed on the people because the powers that be do not want us to have the freedom to move about and travel, where we want and when we want. This is the political framework being constructed here, as it was 30 years in Venezuela. The end result of that deliberate political course of action, to smash functioning markets and institutions, will result in the same thing here, where another of one of the richest nations in the world, in terms on natural resources, will have it's people dumpster diving and slaughtering zoo animals for food.

    That is it and that is all this is about.

    The second ICE vehicles are as dead and buried as cheap, efficient diesels are now, these same petty tyrants will beging calling for the restriction and banning of EVs, for any number of a thousand reasons.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 12-10-2022 at 12:29 PM.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    View it as a contradiction if you want. I don't see it that way. The OP clearly thinks that people will choose not to fill an increased demand for electricity. I say that's not how markets work. You can say "buuuh but government" if you want, as though that somehow changes things. It doesn't.


    Imagine if in the 1970s you said "catalytic converters can't work." Your evidence for that was that in 1974 there wasn't enough catalytic converter production in the world to match global vehicle production. And the argument is that because the requirement for cats is driven by government regulation, rather than happening "organically," cat production will never increase to meet the government-driven demand.
    Cat Theft is Organic. Government Mandated Catalytic Converters only Wasted more gasoline.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I, and by extension Eric Peters, are not saying demand won't be filled.

    We are saying it cannot be filled.
    You have to eliminate all non-renewable energy to come to that conclusion. That is a mistake. Many EVs' power will be sourced from fossil fuel power plants.



    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Cat Theft is Organic. Government Mandated Catalytic Converters only Wasted more gasoline.
    ... your point is?
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    You have to eliminate all non-renewable energy to come to that conclusion. That is a mistake. Many EVs' power will be sourced from fossil fuel power plants.
    I have added to my reply.

    To repeat: 23 million megawatts of new grid power will not come from wind and solar.

    Any other options are banned, by government fiat.

    Just on the face of it, it's a ridiculous assumption: the current, or any feasible future grid could not handle 23 million megawatts of added capacity.

    Just the visual pollution alone of billions of new utility poles and transformers and wires and insulators to accommodate 480V 3 phase service (which is, along with $20,000, what you need if you are going to have a "fast" charger) to every home is staggering.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 12-10-2022 at 12:36 PM.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  17. #74
    I see the Electric Vehicles preserving Personal Freedom.. No longer tied to a Gas Pump with ever increasing price..

    and presently Everyone can be a Power Producer.. and Battery Banks are the way of Storage,, Home or Car..

    Fuel cells can recharge,, on the Fly or in Remote locations..

    and there are a lot of ways to Produce Electricity.. Wind, Water, Sunlight,, petting a cat,,or a Potato. anyone can produce electricity.

    not everyone can produce Gasoline. and I remember the lines at he pumps.

    you can produce Hydrogen at home..and it has an efficiency of 97% conversion to Electricity.
    Last edited by pcosmar; 12-10-2022 at 12:39 PM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post





    ... your point is?
    Pointless Government Created Waste and Crime.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    I see the Electric Vehicles preserving Personal Freedom.. No longer tied to a Gas Pump with ever increasing price..

    and presently Everyone can be a Power Producer.. and Battery Banks are the way of Storage,, Home or Car..

    Fuel cells can recharge,, on the Fly or in Remote locations..

    and there are a lot of ways to Produce Electricity.. Wind, Water, Sunlight,, petting a cat,,or a Potato. anyone can produce electricity.

    not everyone can produce Gasoline. and I remember the lines at he pumps.
    Compression ignition engines can burn pretty much any flammable liquid, from corn oil to to old fry grease to peanut oil.

    But again, Pete, this is not the issue.

    If we allow government to ban ICE cars, by regulatory fiat, they will do the same thing to EVs immediately after that.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Compression ignition engines can burn pretty much any flammable liquid, from corn oil to to old fry grease to peanut oil.

    But again, Pete, this is not the issue.

    If we allow government to ban ICE cars, by regulatory fiat, they will do the same thing to EVs immediately after that.
    Just a change in Fuel.. Hydrogen CAN run in a common ICE engine.. Conversion is easily possible..

    It is just that Hydrogen Fuel Cell over Electric is more efficient,, as yet.

    Cummins is developing a Workhorse Hydrogen ICE motor,,and developing Hydrogen Production.

    I think Toyota is playing with the idea too.

    There are Options,,and the Oil in this country still has many uses,, other than wasteful burning of it.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    To repeat: 23 million megawatts of new grid power will not come from wind and solar.
    So?


    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Any other options are banned, by government fiat.
    No.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    No.
    Umm, yes.

    Get back to me when you get permitting for a new nuke plant.

    I'll wait.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Umm, yes.

    Get back to me when you get permitting for a new nuke plant.

    I'll wait.
    How about this one:

    ATLANTA – Georgia Power has completed cold hydro testing for the second of two additional nuclear reactors being built at Plant Vogtle, confirming the reactor’s coolant system functions as designed, the utility announced Wednesday.


    The completion of cold hydro testing is required to support the last major test remaining at the facility’s Unit 4, hot functional testing, which Georgia Power expects to begin by the end of the first quarter of 2023.


    Meanwhile, the first of the new reactors, Unit 3, is due to go into service early next year.


    “The team at the Vogtle 3 & 4 site continues to make important progress as we move closer to bringing online the first new nuclear units to be built in the country in over 30 years,” said Chris Womack, Georgia Power’s chairman, president, and CEO. “These units are a long-term investment for our state and essential to building the future of energy for Georgia.”

    https://thecurrentga.org/2022/12/10/...-plant-vogtle/


    And there are lots and lots of new natural gas plants under construction.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    How about this one:




    https://thecurrentga.org/2022/12/10/...-plant-vogtle/


    And there are lots and lots of new natural gas plants under construction.
    Hey that's good news.

    We'll see who's right in about 20 years.

    Maybe I should have said, "see where you can get financing" for a new nuke plant.

    That project is 7 years behind schedule and:

    The delays caused a series of cost overruns that more than doubled the original expected price tag of $14 billion.
    I'd have to crunch some numbers, but I don't think that plant will produce $30 billion worth of electricity in it's designed life span.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 12-10-2022 at 09:25 PM.
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  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ... in over 30 years ...
    Boy, that's quite a depression in the nuclear energy market. Wonder how the market caused that. You're refuting yourself...
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I have added to my reply.

    To repeat: 23 million megawatts of new grid power will not come from wind and solar.

    Any other options are banned, by government fiat.

    Just on the face of it, it's a ridiculous assumption: the current, or any feasible future grid could not handle 23 million megawatts of added capacity.

    Just the visual pollution alone of billions of new utility poles and transformers and wires and insulators to accommodate 480V 3 phase service (which is, along with $20,000, what you need if you are going to have a "fast" charger) to every home is staggering.
    You don't need a Fast Charger at Home..

    Many Charge stations are self powered,,independent of the Grid..

    and Power Losses on an antiquated And Faulty Grid System needs to be addressed before any other question is Raised..

    Wa State is powered by Rivers,, and so far we have put more back into the grid than we use from the Solar Panels.

    Sherman County Or. is Producing Wind power ,,half a million+ MW. Coexisting with the wheat farms,,and profiting everyone in the County..

    Solar works where there is Sun,, Wind works where there is Wind. and Water works all over the Country.

    My only issue with Nukes is a bad habit of Mismanagement. There are a lot of ways to Create Electricity...

    But if you can't get it to customers over the Sparking and crackling lines,,it is waste.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Boy, that's quite a depression in the nuclear energy market. Wonder how the market caused that. You're refuting yourself...
    Nuke plants don't make financial sense when natural gas is cheap and you can get a plant running in 5 years instead of 20.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Nuke plants don't make financial sense when natural gas is cheap and you can get a plant running in 5 years instead of 20.
    Do you just string words together in a sequence to "win" each post? Just above, you were lauding the cost-efficiency of nuke plants and "akhsually"-ing AF for pointing out that nuke-plants in the US have been being kiboshed since forever. Oh, excuse me, only for the past 30 years.
    Last edited by ClaytonB; 12-12-2022 at 04:07 PM.
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  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Can I say "AD"? Or have I offended a blue hair somewhere?
    I think "CE" - for "Common Era" - is preferred (and likewise, "BCE" for "Before Common Era").

    Though you probably shouldn't ask "what is 'common' about it, among whom is it 'common' - and why?".
    (Doing so would be uncouth and obnoxious - not to mention almost certainly racist, misogynist, etc.).
    To me, the "CE"/"BCE" usage is just round hole/square peg nonsense - the delineation, regardless of whether the heathens want to admit it, is the birth of Christ. Thus, after that date (however imprecise it may be), is "the year of our Lord" or, "Anno Domini". And so I will will use BC/AD, regardless of whether the blue hairs get "triggered". Let them be triggered. They need to learn to deal with difficulty.

  31. #87
    Its like They want you to be staying locked up in a smart city without vehicles that you will able to drive freely.

  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Its like They want you to be staying locked up in a smart city without vehicles that you will able to drive freely.
    //

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Last week there was yet another variation on the theme of stripping us of more of what it has meant to be human and alive. Also lurking under the darkening umbrella of Agenda 2030 is climate lockdown. It’s here already in the form of the 15-minute city.

    In Britain the scam-scheme is being rolled out first in Oxford. Everyone will be confined to one of six ghettos inside which they might live out their lives on foot, or perhaps by bike. The Labour/Liberal/Green council responsible says it will go ahead whether people like it or not.

    Every resident must register their car with the council, which will use number recognition cameras to monitor their movements around the clock.

    Anyone driving out of their designated ghetto more than 100 times a year will be fined. This is about one agenda and one agenda only – keeping people apart … increasing the atomisation of society, the deliberate division of people into smaller and smaller dependent units.

    This outrage proposed in Oxford is the tip of an iceberg. Because we humans, we useless people, we hackable animals, are so sub-optimal, so contemptible in the eyes of our self-appointed superiors, we must be watched at all times. It’s not just in Oxford.

    In every city there are cameras monitoring everyone’s every move. Forget the nonsense of the 15-minute city, it is simply and plainly the bars of the cage of climate lockdown. Covid ran out of steam and so the next excuse for total control is the weather.

    Here in Britain, it starts in Oxford, but the 15-minute-city nonsense is already all over the word. Plans are in place for London, for Paris, for Milan, for Krakow in Poland and in scores more places besides. In Melbourne, Zero Covid zealot Dan Andrews, the premier recently re-elected by those in favor of seeing fellow citizens brutalized in the street by black-clad storm troopers, waxes lyrical about a 20-minute-city.

    Don’t bother with the details, just remember the word: lockdown. A word that came from prison parlance is now all around us. The excuse keeps changing … but lockdown remains the same.
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 12-12-2022 at 07:18 PM.



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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Do you just string words together in a sequence to "win" each post? Just above, you were lauding the cost-efficiency of nuke plants and "akhsually"-ing AF for pointing out that nuke-plants in the US have been being kiboshed since forever. Oh, excuse me, only for the past 30 years.
    I think you have fundamental reading comprehension issues.

    Lemme know when you find my post lauding the cost-efficiency of nuke plants.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  35. #90
    Here's yet another downside I was not aware of at all.


    The Microwave You Drive?

    https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2022...ave-you-drive/

    By
    eric -
    December 14, 2022

    You may not listen to AM radio – which for the generations preceding the Millennials was what many of us listened to on lonesome road trips out in the sparsely populated areas of the country, where FM signals couldn’t reach but AM signals could.

    But you might be interested in why AM is going away.

    Well, it’s not actually going away. AM continues to broadcast. But a growing number of new cars cannot receive what is broadcast via AM.

    Electric cars.

    And electric trucks like the Ford F-150 Lightning this writer just spent a week test driving (you can read more about that if you like, here). They have satellite radio and FM radio – but not AM radio.

    Their audio systems have had the capacity to receive AM signals deleted.

    How come?

    It is because EMF (Electromagnetic Frequency) emissions – to borrow a popular word – interfere with AM reception to such an extent as to make listening to anything being broadcast via AM essentially impossible. The manufacturers of electric vehicles don’t want complaints from customers annoyed by a feature that doesn’t work – and can’t be made to work, at least not properly.

    So they – Tesla, Audi, Porsche, VW and now Ford – have simply deleted AM, eliminating that potential problem.

    “Rather than frustrate customers with inferior reception and noise, the decision was made to leave it off vehicles that feature eDrive technology,” said BMW in a statement.

    But what about the underlying problem? The reason why AM broadcast reception is a problem in electric vehicles? Has anyone looked into whether an EV’s EMF emissions are – to borrow a phrase – safe and effective?

    It is known that, as a general principle, too much EMF radiation isn’t good for your health. It is why people are advised to not hold a smartphone against their heads, for instance. This caution is interesting given that an electric car can be considered a massive smartphone. Like a smartphone, it is constantly emitting EMF radiation, only more of it – and you are inside it.

    How much EMF is being emitted by electric cars? Inside electric cars? One tester found a consistently pulsing as much as 100 milliwatts of EMG energy bathing him, within his Tesla electric car. This being comparable to what a smartphone emits. Or a microwave ove.

    The difference being one cannot avoid being bathed with the EMF inside a car broadcasting it without getting away from the car – os standing back from the oven. Driving an EMF-emitting EV can be thought of as having a conventional, gas powered car with its tailpipe inside the car.

    And the effects could be worse in that a modern gas-engined car’s exhaust stream is mostly water vapor and carbon dioxide. Keep the window cracked and you will probably be fine. But EMF emissions can’t be diluted by rolling down the window.

    Or even by turning the car off, as these devices continue to emit even when parked.

    The actual danger of being bathed in so much EMF isn’t yet know because it will take time – years – for the effects, if any, to be fully understood. Very much of a piece with the “vaccines” millions have taken that weren’t long-term tested before millions of people took them. There is, however, data suggesting an uptick in certain cancers with the use of smartphones. In particular, cancers of the brain and ear. Interestingly, these cancers – Gliomas and acoustic neuromas – are developing on the side of people’s heads that just happen to be the same side that those people held their phones up against.

    According to these studies, the people most likely to develop these tumors were those who spent “an average of 54 minutes on the phone per day.”

    How much time do people spend within a car, each day?

    It may well prove to be the case that the EMF emissions being generated by EVs is benign – or at least, relatively harmless. But it’s interesting that there has been very little in the way of official interest in finding out first – before bathing potentially millions of people in EV-generated EMF emissions.

    Perhaps even more interesting is the fact that millions of people are likely to be bathed in these emissions for the sake of reducing the emissions of a trace gas (C02) that is known to be harmless to humans in trace amounts and which is absolutely essential to human life, assuming humans want to eat. All because of an asserted risk to the “climate” that has been repeatedly shown to be overblown if it exists at all.

    Yet no concern is expressed about very real EMF emissions that the evidence strongly suggest are a threat to humans exposed to them above a certain background threshold level. No government regulations limiting how much EMG can be emitted by electric cars. The same government that goes berserk over almost immeasurable emissions such as those emitted by VW’s extirpated line of diesel-powered cars, which no one was harmed by.

    Instead, just nix the AM receiver in the car – so that people will not be aware of what they’re being bathed in, when they’re inside the car.

    Until, of course, they become aware of the effects of being bathed in these EV emissions.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

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