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    CO - At least 5 dead, 18 wounded at queeer club mass shooting

    At Least 5 Dead, 18 Wounded, in Gay Nightclub Attack in Colorado

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...k-in-colorado/

    AWR HAWKINS 20 Nov 2022

    At least five people were killed and at least 18 others wounded in an attack just before midnight Saturday on a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

    CNN reports that the attack was carried with a firearm Club Q and 911 calls about the shooting started coming in at 11:57 p.m.

    Colorado Springs Police Lt. Pamela Castro said police have located one individual in the club believed to be the suspect. “At this point in time, the suspect is being treated, but is in custody,” she said.

    NBC News also quoted Castro saying, “We have numerous people transported to multiple local hospitals via ambulance and police cruisers. The hospitals are helping us to notify family who have been injured.”

    Club Q used a Facebook post to thank patrons who subdued the shooter:

    Colorado adopted background checks on private gun sales months after the December 14, 2012, attack on Sandy Hook Elementary School. Gabby Giffords’ gun control group describes Colorado’s background check gun control as “universal background checks,” which means private sales require the same background check as a retail sale.

    Moreover, Colorado has a red flag law, a ban on the sale of “high capacity” magazines, and gun storage requirements, among other controls.
    "Truly, whoever can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire



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    It may be murderers who kill. But it's guns that make the tyrants nervous.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post


    It may be murderers who kill. But it's guns that make the tyrants nervous.
    Any idea who the DA is?

    The left is going with the grandfather is an elected official, MAGA Republican, so that is why they dropped the charges. Apparently he built a home made bomb and kidnapped his mom or something?
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    Heavy was not able to find any social media profiles for Aldrich. But Facebook posts made by his mother reveal he had been dealing with mental health issues. She posted often about her son in a Facebook group for women involved in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the Colorado Springs area.
    ...
    https://heavy.com/news/anderson-lee-aldrich/
    And we will never hear about which prescription drugs the shooter had been taking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Any idea who the DA is?

    The left is going with the grandfather is an elected official, MAGA Republican, so that is why they dropped the charges. Apparently he built a home made bomb and kidnapped his mom or something?
    It appears that the mother didn't want to press charges, and was looking for the best legal defense for him. Common reaction, and probably why charges were eventually dropped:

    In one post in July 2021, she asked for help finding a criminal defense attorney: “Hello Sisters. Does anyone know of a fantastic defense attorney? I ask this with a heavy heart but my family really needs some help at this time. We have cash to retain good counsel. Thank you.” Her post about needing a criminal defense attorney came just after her son was arrested.
    ...
    https://heavy.com/news/anderson-lee-aldrich/
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post


    It may be murderers who kill. But it's guns that make the tyrants nervous.
    Looks like the Left is also trying to spin this as a religion thing:

    Psalm 35:7-10, Psalm 109, Isaiah 13:9

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Looks like the Left is also trying to spin this as a religion thing:



    https://latterdaysaintmag.com/elder-...at-they-heard/

    For some background, in the 1830s Mormons were driven out of Missouri under an extermination order from the Governor. They fled to Nauvoo, IL.

    Elder Holland: What They Heard is Not What He Said

    ...

    “If we are an extension of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” Elder Holland said, “taking a significant amount of sacred tithes and other precious human resources, all of which might well be expended in other worthy causes, surely our integrity demands that our lives be absolutely consistent with and characteristic of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ . . . in harmony with the Lord’s anointed, those whom He has designated to declare Church doctrine and to guide Brigham Young University as its trustees.”

    However, he also urged BYU employees to teach, to advocate, and, sometimes, to defend those doctrines and standards. He cited a 2004 campus speech in which the late Elder Neal A. Maxwell had said that, in a way, Latter-day Saint scholars at BYU “are a little bit like the builders of the temple in Nauvoo, who worked with a trowel in one hand and a musket in the other. Today scholars building the temple of learning must also pause on occasion to defend the kingdom. I personally think this is one of the reasons the Lord established and maintains this university. The dual role of builder and defender is unique and ongoing. I am grateful we have scholars today who can handle, as it were, both trowels and muskets.”


    Like other faithful Latter-day Saints, Elder Maxwell recognized the accuracy of Susan Evans McCloud’s hymn lyrics, that


    “The truths and values we embrace
    Are mocked on every hand.”


    He also understood the need to defend them.I was in the audience for those 2004 remarks, in which Elder Maxwell expressed his appreciation for scholars at BYU who defended the claims, scriptures, and teachings of the Restoration against attack. (As far as I recall, he didn’t refer in any way to homosexuality or homosexuals.) The illustration that he used clearly drew upon an account given in Nehemiah 4 (especially verses 16-18). In it, the Jews who have returned from the Babylonian captivity to rebuild Jerusalem and its temple are obliged, because of threats and attacks from their neighbors, to work with one hand while holding a sword in the other—a defensive measure, not an aggressive one, that plainly has nothing to do with homosexuality.

    Elder Maxwell’s modified biblical metaphor was adopted by then-Elder Dallin Oaks in 2017, when he exhorted members of the BYU faculty to increase their defense of the Church and its teachings: “I would like,” he said, “to hear a little more musket fire from this temple of learning.”


    Referring to Elder Oaks’s appropriation of the imagery, Elder Holland importantly observed that “He said this in a way that could have applied to a host of topics in various departments”—just as, in fact, Elder Maxwell had applied the musket metaphor more generally.


    “But,” Elder Holland continued, “the one he specifically mentioned was the doctrine of the family and defending marriage as the union of a man and a woman.”


    This is easily understandable: Issues of gender, sexuality, and the nature of families loom very large today in our culture, law, and politics, and societal trends related to them clearly and increasingly clash with the standards and teachings of the Church. Accordingly, Elder Holland’s own speech alluded fairly prominently to such matters—in, by my quick estimate, four of forty-four paragraphs of the published text:


    “I have focused on this same-sex topic this morning more than I would have liked,” he said, adding that “I pray you will see it as emblematic of a lot of issues our students and community face in this complex, contemporary world of ours.”


    In other words, the speech was not, as many have claimed, primarily devoted to issues of same-sex attraction. He simply chose gender issues to represent the other areas in which the teachings of the Church come under attack, areas in which some members of the BYU faculty might be well situated to help. And, I add, the speech was neither hateful nor angry; as anyone can learn by simply watching it online:


    “My Brethren,” said Elder Holland, “have made the case for the metaphor of musket fire which I have endorsed yet again today. There will continue to be those who oppose our teachings and with that will continue the need to define, document, and defend the faith. But we do all look forward to the day when we can “beat our swords into plowshares, and [our] spears into pruning hooks,” and at least on this subject, “learn war [no] more.””


    Specifically referring to those who experience same-sex attraction, Elder Holland said,


    “Let me go no farther before declaring unequivocally my love and that of my Brethren for those who live with this same-sex challenge and so much complexity that goes with it. Too often the world has been unkind, in many instances crushingly cruel, to these our brothers and sisters.”


    But, he also said, “we have to be careful that love and empathy do not get interpreted as condoning and advocacy, or that orthodoxy and loyalty to principle not be interpreted as unkindness or disloyalty to people. As near as I can tell, Christ never once withheld His love from anyone, but He also never once said to anyone, “Because I love you, you are exempt from keeping my commandments.” We are tasked with trying to strike that same sensitive, demanding balance in our lives.”


    Plainly, just as with Elder Maxwell’s 2004 use of the musketry image and Elder Oaks’s 2017 reappropriation of it, the reference is not to military combat, let alone to hateful prejudice or violent bigotry, but to intellectual contestation and reasoned argument—which are, after all, at or near the very core of scholarship and higher education. And what they said was completely consistent with the exhortation of 1 Peter 3:15: “Be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear”—or, in the more contemporary language of the English Standard Version, “with gentleness and respect.”
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

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    Reminds me of the Pulse nightclub shooting back in 2016.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.
    As sad as it is, in Orwell’s Amerika, everyone is on their radar.
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    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Right wing extremist probably
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    My pronouns are he/him/his

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    Inflation is Mother Nature's way of balancing a country's currency with its worth.

    Here at RPF, we don't promote every conspiracy theory - merely the ones we've been made aware of. If there's anything that Ron Paul followers know, it's that bad things don't just happen; bad things require dark and insidious forces acting in concert and in secret to make them happen.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    "They use they/them pronouns, and for the purposes of all formal filings, will be adderessed as Mx. Aldrich." --- lemme guess, this jurisdiction permits cameras in the courtoom and we can expect a year-long clown-show of prosecutors and witnesses trying to form a sentence without saying "him/he"....

    Psalm 35:7-10, Psalm 109, Isaiah 13:9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And we will never hear about which prescription drugs the shooter had been taking...
    Nothing to see here, move along...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    When I was 18 years old, I was thrown out of a fairly open bar attached to a casino and hotel. There was a cover band playing in the bar I was watching, I wasn't trying to drink, and was standing, not taking a seat.

    Little would I know that all of these years later I could have gone to drag strip show at the age of five, and people would cheer for it.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    https://twitter.com/MostlyPeacefull/...61700554428416
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Shooter came out and said they were part of the LGBT community? Time to throw this story under the rug and never talk about it again.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Colorado club shooting suspect is non-binary, attorneys say

    https://www.axios.com/2022/11/23/col...-attorneys-say
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    When I was 18 years old, I was thrown out of a fairly open bar attached to a casino and hotel. There was a cover band playing in the bar I was watching, I wasn't trying to drink, and was standing, not taking a seat.

    Little would I know that all of these years later I could have gone to drag strip show at the age of five, and people would cheer for it.
    Little did I know that this site would allow propaganda for these crimes to be spread by Idiom.
    Maybe the mods should have a talk about that.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/st...08577161830401
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...23246035423236

    Last edited by acptulsa; 11-23-2022 at 06:02 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Reminds me of the Pulse nightclub shooting back in 2016.
    Still haven't seen Ballistics yet.. Most were shot by the Police.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...23246035423236

    Along with the shooter was on "FBI/Police" radar.

    What a coincidence.......
    Among all the places in the state. These such shooting do happen in the most strangest places...

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Oh boy, this guy is a sub-human.


    https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/sta...28389011595276
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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