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    FTX Files For Bankruptcy. What will be the effect of this?

    I don't know what it means for crypto in general, but maybe you do:

    https://twitter.com/binance/status/

    https://twitter.com/binance/status/1590449161069268992
    Last edited by Suzu; 11-09-2022 at 06:07 PM.



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    crickets.....

    All the ponzi grifters are clamming up. Last crash it was Madoff taking the fall for his ponzi. Looks like Bankman-Fried is the designated scapegoat this time around, at least for cryptocrap.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

  5. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    A fun factoid that flew under the radar until recently. Bankman-Fried's mother is the founder of the Center for Voter Information. I think that's the "non-partisan" (code for Democrat) organization that sends out those "Records show you haven't voted yet, here's an absentee ballot to fill out" spam mail every election. Sam then quickly goes from nobody to a billionaire who can dump mega millions into Dem campaign accounts and has carte blanche access to Capitol Hill. I remember when CNBC did their first interview with him. I was like "Who the $#@! is this dude and since when did CNBC do interviews with kids with jew fros who look like they need a shower?"

    Looks like SBF's rabbit hole is starting to breach the surface.
    -----------------------------------
    With revelations starting to surface, a SBF/FTX specific thread would probably be entertaining.

    The real reason Tom and Gisele are divorcing? A large, undisclosed amount of their fortune was tied to FTX.

    https://thesportsrush.com/nfl-news-t...ryptocurrency/
    Last edited by devil21; 11-11-2022 at 05:22 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    "Government" represents not an entity in sé, but a mob of fellow humans with no more authority to act as bosses, than do you.

    We get what we tolerate and we deserve what we get precisely because we tolerate it.

    Weakmen are the rule, Freemen the exception.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    I was just thinking about starting an FTX specific thread in the crypto subforum.

    Gonna cross-post a couple of fun items to get this thread rolling.

    ---------------

    A fun factoid that flew under the radar until recently. Bankman-Fried's mother is the founder of the Center for Voter Information. I think that's the "non-partisan" (code for Democrat) organization that sends out those "Records show you haven't voted yet, here's an absentee ballot to fill out" spam mail every election. Sam then quickly goes from nobody to a billionaire who can dump mega millions into Dem campaign accounts and has carte blanche access to Capitol Hill and other federal offices like the SEC. I remember when CNBC did their first interview with him. I was like "Who the $#@! is this dude and since when did CNBC do interviews with kids with jew fros who look like they need a shower?"

    Looks like SBF's rabbit hole is starting to breach the surface.

    -----------------------------------


    The real reason Tom and Gisele are divorcing? A large, undisclosed amount of their fortune was tied to FTX investments and endorsements.

    https://thesportsrush.com/nfl-news-t...ryptocurrency/
    Last edited by devil21; 11-12-2022 at 12:09 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Here's a list of 134 companies bankrupted by FTX:
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...327326720.html

    Here's a quick summary for those whose attention span is limited. But it's not the whole story....



    The rest of the story:

    Ukraine was receiving money from the US, Ukraine "invested" it to FTX, and FTX sent it to Democrats, who originally voted to send it to Ukraine. This is money-laundering, and a criminal conspiracy to violate campaign finance laws.

    Bankman-Fried burned his own company -- and his own ass -- just to make sure the Dems won the mid-term elections, and seems to have done it by pulling the rug out from all who had funds in FTX.
    Last edited by Suzu; 11-12-2022 at 01:17 PM. Reason: fix typo

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    Request @Brian4Liberty @Occam's Banana that this thread be moved back to General Politics as it is very political given Fried's heavy political activity and his mother's political ties. It appears FTX was a money laundering avenue for Democrat campaigns, including Biden's. Maybe even outright theft of investor's money to funnel it to Dem campaigns.
    Last edited by devil21; 11-12-2022 at 10:30 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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    Smells like another Solyndra.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

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    Or better yet, merge it with this earlier thread, and move that to politics.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...effect-of-this
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

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    Democrat Party-created problem -> reaction ->
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Democrat Party-created problem -> reaction ->
    Fox to guard hen house!

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    Who got the money that SFB stole from investors

    No shades of red here!

    $10,000,000 PROTECT OUR FUTURE PAC 4/14/2022
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    $6,000,000 HOUSE MAJORITY PAC 4/4/2022
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    $2,000,000 GMI PAC, INC. 1/18/2022
    $1,000,000 AMERICA UNITED 4/18/2022
    $500,000 SMP 5/19/2022
    $500,000 DNC SERVICES CORP / DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE 5/5/2022
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    $300,000 AMERICA UNITED 6/13/2022
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    $250,000 DMFI PAC 5/25/2022
    $220,000 CENTER FOR ESSENTIAL INFORMATION 10/13/2020
    $109,500 DNC SERVICES CORP / DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE 5/3/2022
    $109,500 DNC SERVICES CORP / DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE 5/3/2022
    $109,500 DNC SERVICES CORP / DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE 5/3/2022
    $109,500 DCCC 6/22/2022
    $105,000 ALABAMA CONSERVATIVES FUND 6/10/2022
    $104,000 DCCC 6/22/2022
    $50,000 BIDEN VICTORY FUND 10/23/2020
    $50,000 HEARTLAND RESURGENCE 9/23/2022
    $36,500 DNC SERVICES CORP / DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE 5/3/2022
    $36,500 DCCC 6/22/2022
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    $30,000 DSCC 3/21/2022
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    $22,000 ACTIVATE AMERICA 9/1/2021
    $20,800 STABENOW VICTORY FUND 1/13/2022
    $20,800 MAGGIE HASSAN VICTORY FUND 7/29/2021
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    $10,000 NEW HAMPSHIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY 7/31/2021
    $10,000 MICHIGAN DEMOCRATIC STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE 2/2/2022
    $8,500 NRCC 7/22/2022
    $6,500 DSCC 3/31/2022
    $5,800 RICHARD BURR COMMITTEE; THE 8/2/2021
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    $5,800 JEFFRIES FOR CONGRESS 7/24/2021
    $5,800 COLLINS FOR SENATOR 10/2/2021
    $5,800 BOOZMAN FOR ARKANSAS 1/21/2022
    $5,800 CITIZENS FOR BOYLE 5/9/2022
    $5,800 HOEVEN FOR SENATE 6/13/2022
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    $5,000 LIMITLESS HORIZONS 10/17/2022
    $5,000 GRANITE VALUES PAC 7/31/2021
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    $5,000 GREATER TOMORROW POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE 7/22/2022
    $5,000 THE NEXT 50 PAC 3/31/2022
    $5,000 PRAIRIE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE 3/19/2022
    $5,000 BFB PAC 5/9/2022
    $5,000 OFF THE SIDELINES PAC 6/20/2022
    $5,000 AXNE PAC (AMERICANS X-PECT NEW ENERGY) 9/28/2022
    $5,000 SERVING OUR COUNTRY (SOC) PAC 9/28/2022
    $4,000 ACROSS THE AISLE PAC 10/19/2022
    $2,900 ALESSANDRA BIAGGI FOR CONGRESS 3/31/2022
    $2,900 MANCHIN FOR WEST VIRGINIA 7/24/2021
    $2,900 MANCHIN FOR WEST VIRGINIA 7/24/2021
    $2,900 JASMINE FOR US 3/31/2022
    $2,900 FRIENDS OF DICK DURBIN COMMITTEE 3/19/2022
    $2,900 CONOLE FOR CONGRESS 3/31/2022
    $2,900 TINA SMITH FOR MINNESOTA 3/30/2022
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    $2,900 COLLINS FOR SENATOR 8/3/2021
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    $2,900 BILL CASSIDY FOR US SENATE 8/2/2021
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    $2,900 MAXWELL ALEJANDRO FROST FOR CONGRESS 6/10/2022
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    $2,900 GILBERT VILLEGAS FOR CONGRESS 3/31/2022
    $2,900 SHONTEL BROWN FOR CONGRESS 3/31/2022
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    $2,900 JAKE AUCHINCLOSS FOR CONGRESS 3/10/2022
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    $2,900 ALEX PADILLA FOR SENATE 7/24/2021
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    $2,900 PEOPLE FOR PATTY MURRAY 7/24/2021
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    $2,900 JOSH GOTTHEIMER FOR CONGRESS 1/24/2022
    $2,900 ROBERT GARCIA FOR CONGRESS 3/31/2022
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    $2,800 CORY BOOKER FOR SENATE 10/18/2021
    $2,500 CHC BOLD PAC 3/31/2022
    $1,000 BENNET FOR COLORADO 10/27/2010
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    If you also count the “donations” to Democrats by two other principles from FTX, the total is almost $80 million dollars, THIS CYCLE.
    Imagine knowing your crypto money was stolen to pay for lefties to import people from third-world countries to replace you!
    Tom Brady is rumored to have lost $650,000,000.

  18. #16
    Just as I was about to add a note that this topic might fit better in this column, I noticed that it was already moved here from crypto subforum. Thanks to whoever did that.



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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Democrat Party-created problem -> reaction ->
    Bitcoin...errr....Crypto....errrr.......CBDC fixes that!
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Bitcoin...errr....Crypto....errrr.......CBDC fixes that!
    Don't worry. FedResCoin is coming, as soon as the contractor that created the original Obamacare site figures out why it keeps crashing on startup.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

  22. #19
    From ZH comments so it's on the record here. I have NOT personally verified if the info is accurate. But it probably is.


    April 25, 2019: Biden announces his presidential campaign.

    13 days later, Sam Bankman-Fried, son of Barbara Fried ( Stanford Professor and co-founder of political fundraising organization "Mind-the-Gap), launches #FTX crypto exchange.

    The exchange is magically an overnight success. SBF becomes biggest donor to Biden.

    Election day, FTX implodes completely.

    If you think this scandal is done, it goes even deeper.

    -----
    Gabe Bankman-Fried, brother to Sam (also a former Jane Street trader), is founder of “Guarding Against Pandemics”

    He was a Legislative Correspondent for the US House of Representatives and an advisor to large political donors in the Democrat party.

    The family Aunt Linda Fried is a WEF member on the Global Agenda Council on Aging.

    The father, Joseph Bankman is a Stanford professor who has lobbied on behalf of Hedge Fund managers before Congress before (film records exist).


    FTX' Head of Ventures & Commercial at FTX Ventures Amy Wu, started with the Clinton Foundation years ago.

    Nishad Singh FTX Director of Engineering has spent over 8 million for Dem candidates.

    And finally Obama's Commodity Futures Trading Commissioner, Mark Wetjen was literally the head of FTX Policy & Regulation.


    Reports were the organization wanted to spend over a billion dollars on the Democratic party for 2024.
    -----
    Looks like a massive money laundering operation....

    --------------------------------------------------
    There’s more:

    Gary Gensler’s old boss at MIT was Glenn Ellison. His daughter Caroline Ellison is the CEO of FTX sister-company Alameda Research.

    The GC of FTX Ryne Miller used to be lead counsel to Gensler when he was CFTC Chair.

    Trevor Levine, Senior FTX Counsel's last job was with DOJ.

    Interim FTX CEO is John J. Ray III, former Chairman of Enron

    Sam Bankman-Fried’s mother was Hilary Clinton’s lawyer.
    A very informative twitter thread:
    https://twitter.com/jagoecapital/sta...30378411618304
    Last edited by devil21; 11-12-2022 at 02:14 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  23. #20
    Seems like the usual monthly crypto rugpull.

    All of those ponzis are finally collapsing under their own weight now that coin prices are trending down.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Seems like the usual monthly crypto rugpull.

    All of those ponzis are finally collapsing under their own weight now that coin prices are trending down.
    LOL.. forget about the fact that the dems used it as a money laundering scheme to get Ukraine money into democrat PACs and candidates... to you it's just another crypto rug pull...
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    LOL.. forget about the fact that the dems used it as a money laundering scheme to get Ukraine money into democrat PACs and candidates... to you it's just another crypto rug pull...
    Based on your long-running record of accurate analysis, I completely believe you. Was JFK Jr. at all involved in this plan?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Based on your long-running record of accurate analysis, I completely believe you. Was JFK Jr. at all involved in this plan?
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdur...h=1a9c5fff24c9

    The Democrats’ PAC–The House Majority PAC–had plenty of big backers as well, but the total amount they contributed was much less. Altogether 17 billionaires and their spouses (including Connie Ballmer, the wife of former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, who made a $1 million contribution; Steve did not contribute) gave $20 million. Just over a quarter of that total came from the richest American in crypto: 30-year-old Sam Bankman-Fried, founder of the FTX exchange and trading firm Alameda Research. He directed $6 million of his $39 million in total political donations this year to the House Majority PAC. That’s more than all but five of the Republican PAC’s billionaire donors contributed.
    Forbes mainstream enough to suit you, or did you think Alex Jones took it over?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 11-12-2022 at 05:29 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdur...h=1a9c5fff24c9



    Forbes mainstream enough to suit you, or did you think Alex Jones took it over?
    That wasn't the claim
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    That wasn't the claim
    Okay, how about forget about the fact that the dems used it as a money laundering scheme to get embezzled money to democrat PACs and candidates... to you it's just another crypto rug pull...

    That better?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Okay, how about forget about the fact that the dems used it as a money laundering scheme to get embezzled money to democrat PACs and candidates... to you it's just another crypto rug pull...

    That better?
    You've made it halfway from dannno-tier claims to what we actually know so far.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

  32. #28

    40 million donated to Dems from Crypto Fraud


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