Venezuela Empties Prisons, Sends Violent Criminals to U.S. Border, Says DHS Report

[Swordsmyth]

WATCH: Venezuelan Illegal Says Mass Migration Will 'Bring Chaos' to US, 'Collapse' Country
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[acptulsa]

And I just give up when I consider that fact...if that's the case then our experiment in the ne plus ultra of Western civilization was all for nothing: all the toil and hardship and triumphs and disasters and bloodshed, all the achievements that utterly and totally altered the course of human history forever, in politics...

I'm not saying you're wrong. But I am saying much of what was accomplished in that particular realm on this continent was cribbed from the Iroquois.

Give credit where credit is due.

[Invisible Man]

mmm. So, prison then? For trespassing, yes?

Bout that state.

Prison isn't a just punishment for trespassing. But are we even talking about trespassers? When they genuinely do trespass on someone's private property, then sure. And then it should be up to the private property owner to say if they want to press charges or not. But some random person who lives hundreds of miles away doesn't get to complain that they are trespassing just because they're in the same country as that person and they don't want them in their country.

[PAF]

Prison isn't a just punishment for trespassing. But are we even talking about trespassers? When they genuinely do trespass on someone's private property, then sure. And then it should be up to the private property owner to say if they want to press charges or not. But some random person who lives hundreds of miles away doesn't get to complain that they are trespassing just because they're in the same country as that person and they don't want them in their country.

Whether people admit to it or not, Hitlery and Obummer knew exactly how to brainwash them. "It takes a village", and "if you see something, say something". Which of course led to: "it is the responsibility of government to DO SOMETHING!" Even at the ultimate expense of tax payers and private property owners.

[Invisible Man]

Whether people admit to it or not, Hitlery and Obummer knew exactly how to brainwash them. "It takes a village", and "if you see something, say something". Which of course led to: "it is the responsibility of government to DO SOMETHING!" Even at the ultimate expense of tax payers and private property owners.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to PAF again."

It's socialism. At bottom, they don't believe in such a thing as private ownership of land.

[acptulsa]

Whether people admit to it or not, Hitlery and Obummer knew exactly how to brainwash them. "It takes a village", and "if you see something, say something". Which of course led to: "it is the responsibility of government to DO SOMETHING!" Even at the ultimate expense of tax payers and private property owners.

A good use for this template.

Clinton shuns using force to protect private property, but certainly doesn't seem to mind using it to protect a political career.

[Ender]

I'm not saying you're wrong. But I am saying much of what was accomplished in that particular realm on this continent was cribbed from the Iroquois.

Don't be a Swordshyll. Give credit where credit is due.

Exactly!

And, with all the yelling about "destroying our culture", few seem to remember what the US has done to Venezuela, as well as most of the planet.

[acptulsa]

Exactly!

And, with all the yelling about "destroying our culture", few seem to remember what the US has done to Venezuela, as well as most of the planet.

An excellent point. Blowback is a bitch. Why shouldn't they send us their criminals? We sent them the School of the Americas and the CIA.

They don't even have any criminals that dangerous. We got off light in the exchange.

[RJB]

Quit the self flagellations. It's not virtuous. It's cringe worthy. Venezuela failed because their people prefer marxism. I don't owe them a thing. Nor does anyone in the USA.

Any "US" policy has nothing to do with me. It's globalism. The same globalists who want to flood us with Marxist immigrants and turn us into a third world nation.

This is an interesting video. Ender will like it.
It makes the conquistadors look bad.

[acptulsa]

Quit the self flagellations. It's not virtuous. It's cringe worthy. Venezuela failed because their people prefer marxism. I don't owe them a thing. Nor does anyone in the USA.

Any "US" policy has nothing to do with me. It's globalism. The same globalists who want to flood us with Marxist immigrants and turn us into a third world nation.

Yes, that's why they chose what they did. But it only has nothing to do with us because we fought it as best we could. And the only way I know to keep fighting it is to keep pointing out what's really going on, because Americans are the ones in the best position to stop it.

But first we have to realize that our destiny is not in our stars, but in ourselves. Our worst enemies are not imported. They've been right here all along, winning primaries.

[surf]

EXCLUSIVE: Venezuela Empties Prisons, Sends Violent Criminals to U.S. Border, Says DHS Report

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https://www.breitbart.com/border/202...ys-dhs-report/

c'mon guys. whatever happened to the skepticism i loved on this site?

[acptulsa]

I can't help but wonder if the sort of people a communist government would imprison aren't exactly the sort we need.

Look at who Biden imprisons, and who is released these days.

[Ender]

Quit the self flagellations. It's not virtuous. It's cringe worthy. Venezuela failed because their people prefer marxism. I don't owe them a thing. Nor does anyone in the USA.

Any "US" policy has nothing to do with me. It's globalism. The same globalists who want to flood us with Marxist immigrants and turn us into a third world nation.

This is an interesting video. Ender will like it.
It makes the conquistadors look bad.

May you outta learn some real history.

Read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman"; quite an eye opener to what has been done to other countries.

And, the US has been pretty much in constant wars since the beginning & only ONE was justified.

[Swordsmyth]

Quit the self flagellations. It's not virtuous. It's cringe worthy. Venezuela failed because their people prefer marxism. I don't owe them a thing. Nor does anyone in the USA.

Any "US" policy has nothing to do with me. It's globalism. The same globalists who want to flood us with Marxist immigrants and turn us into a third world nation.

This is an interesting video. Ender will like it.
It makes the conquistadors look bad.

Well said.

And just because DC destroyed another country is no reason we should allow ours to be destroyed any more than the Injuns being overrun by our ancestors is a reason we should allow ourselves to be overrun.

[Occam's Banana]

The following is addressed to everyone:

I've asked before, but it's like asking little children to grow up and break the tiresomely repetitive and recurring cycle of "you're a big fat doody-head" name-calling and subsequent "he called me a big fat doody-head" tattle-telling. No one is edified by any of this. Calling someone a "shill" for the eleventy-umpteenth time isn't going to accomplish anything more than doing it the umpteenth time did.

So I'm not asking again. This time, I'm telling.

Stop using the "shill" epithet (or any variation of it) against other forum members.

Anyone who indulges in such "shill baiting" will be subject to being warned and told to stop. Thereafter, any further instances of "shill baiting" by the warned poster will result in the issuance of infractions to and/or temporary bans of that poster. Offending posts (including those for which a warning is issued) will be subject to editing or deletion.

Rather than posting "shill" accusations to the open forums, those who are authentically concerned that some other poster may be a genuine "shill" (whatever that is supposed to mean) should use the report function on suspected posts to specify which particular forum guideline(s) the alleged "shill" has violated. (And if you find yourself unable to specify any particular violations, then bite your tongue and find a way to satisfy yourself with substantively criticizing the relevant posts in the open forums without resorting to "shill baiting".)

[Occam's Banana]

Don't be a Swordshyll.

Per post #105 above, stop doing this.

[TheTexan]

WATCH: Venezuelan Illegal Says Mass Migration Will 'Bring Chaos' to US, 'Collapse' Country
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^ that guy gets it

[RJB]

May you outta learn some real history.

It is funny when you condescendingly tell people to educate themselves while you unironically defend a failed marxist state. A lot of my other progressive friends do the same thing. Are all failed marxist states the fault of the US, or may there be something inherently flawed in Marxism?

Read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman"; quite an eye opener to what has been done to other countries

.

The US is getting looted just like everyone else because ALL nations have given up their borders to globalism. I do think that Latin Americans should see an American official who steps off a plane and shakes hands with their president as a potential invasion as much as we should see our southern border as an invasion. The same people looting all countries including our own are behind our open borders for a reason.

And, the US has been pretty much in constant wars since the beginning & only ONE was justified.

Again, you do realize that's not just the history of the US, but rather mankind. It is not just countries with open borders who collapse, but also countries with strong borders that weren't strong enough.

[PAF]

Again, you do realize that's not just the history of the US, but rather mankind. It is not just countries with open borders who collapse, but also countries with strong borders that weren't strong enough.

Strong enough for what? As companies/corporations grow and seek dominance, they team up with governments to enact policies. The complexes grow and profit by the revolving door of “give people free stuff so that we can fight back with more of our policies and products, taxing the people with money to line our pockets”.

And you think some line drawn on a map is going to reign corporatists/lobbyists in?

May you Follow the Money. “Absolute power corrupts absolutely”.

That’s not to say that I am not a capitalist. I am a capitalist, but societies begin to fail once big money gets in bed with governments. Hell, everybody [almost] knows that.

[RJB]

Strong enough for what? As companies/corporations grow and seek dominance, they team up with governments to enact policies. The complexes grow and profit by the revolving door of “give people free stuff so that we can fight back with more of our policies and products, taxing the people with money to line our pockets”.

And you think some line drawn on a map is going to reign corporatists/lobbyists in?

May you Follow the Money. “Absolute power corrupts absolutely”.

That’s not to say that I am not a capitalist. I am a capitalist, but societies begin to fail once big money gets in bed with governments. Hell, everybody [almost] knows that.

I don't disagree with most of that. I have said Latin Americans shouldn't be happy about American officials influencing their politics. If Venezuela wishes to be marxist, that's fine. Just keep it out of my country.

However, lines are drawn on a map for a reason. There is a reason for the difference between the border towns of Nogales, Arizona and Nogales, Mexico. This difference isn't due to racism, homophobia, or any other latest progressive fad. Despite its flaws, and despite it being cool to say the US system sucked, it really was about the best that the world had to offer until recent times. I would like to return to what we had. Bitch all you want, but there is a reason why people want to move here, and all those in the US who complain, don't move to Nogales Mexico or Venezuela. That line separates a way of life. It should be defended.

[PAF]

I don't disagree with most of that. I have said Latin Americans shouldn't be happy about American officials influencing their politics. If Venezuela wishes to be marxist, that's fine. Just keep it out of my country.

However, lines are drawn on a map for a reason. There is a reason for the difference between the border towns of Nogales, Arizona and Nogales, Mexico. This difference isn't due to racism, homophobia, or any other latest progressive fad. Despite its flaws, and despite it being cool to say the US system sucked, it really was about the best that the world had to offer until recent times. I would like to return to what we had. Bitch all you want, but there is a reason why people want to move here, and all those in the US who complain, don't move to Nogales Mexico or Venezuela. That line separates a way of life. It should be defended.

Like the stock market, Ebs and flows, ups and downs, bears and bulls.

Why not move to Venezuela? Buy when it’s down, maybe possibly sell when it’s high, as a good capitalist should.

I swear, people insist on strapping nooses around their own throats, demanding more government action and enriching the industrial complexes, thereby enacting more anti-liberty legislation.

Quit worrying about other people and this and other countries, and worry about yourself. There’s profit to be made, and if you’re not afraid to travel here and there, you can be free to do what you want, where you want, when you want.

And if you’re the type that wants to stay put where he/she is, work locally, and try to avoid funding the State/Fed/Lobbyists to the best of your ability.

[RJB]

Like the stock market, Ebs and flows, ups and downs, bears and bulls.

Why not move to Venezuela? Buy when it’s down, maybe possibly sell when it’s high, as a good capitalist should.

I swear, people insist on strapping nooses around their own throats, demanding more government action and enriching the industrial complexes, thereby enacting more anti-liberty legislation.

Quit worrying about other people and this and other countries, and worry about yourself. There’s profit to be made, and if you’re not afraid to travel here and there, you can be free to do what you want, where you want, when you want.

And if you’re the type that wants to stay put where he/she is, work locally, and try to avoid funding the State/Fed/Lobbyists to the best of your ability.

I'm not afraid of other places. I traveled quite a bit in my youth. I just want my kids to grow up in a society that I grew up in. Although there were flaws from the beginning, relatively speaking this was a great country to grow up in up until the 2000s.

As for government, the only thing it was ever needed for was defending a country. Invasions for hostile actors is the human condition. Ron Paul stated bringing our troops home and putting them on the border. I agreed with him then and still do.

[PAF]

I'm not afraid of other places. I traveled quite a bit in my youth. I just want my kids to grow up in a society that I grew up in. Although there were flaws from the beginning, relatively speaking this was a great country to grow up in up until the 2000s.

As for government, the only thing it was ever needed for was defending a country. Invasions for hostile actors is the human condition. Ron Paul stated bringing our troops home and putting them on the border. I agreed with him then and still do.

You keep looking for others to solve your problems. I’ve spoken with Ron Paul on more than several occasions and that’s not what he literally meant. I wish I recorded the conversations, but I didn’t.

Much of what you see and hear is media produced [there really isn’t 50% lgbtq, etc]. Sure, education has dropped dramatically and this country is rife with idiots. Don’t fall into their trap. Forget about them and worry about yourself and you’ll be freer and happier.

Other than that… carry on ;-)

[RonWrightor]

Prison isn't a just punishment for trespassing. But are we even talking about trespassers? When they genuinely do trespass on someone's private property, then sure. And then it should be up to the private property owner to say if they want to press charges or not. But some random person who lives hundreds of miles away doesn't get to complain that they are trespassing just because they're in the same country as that person and they don't want them in their country.

So long as they stay away from the capitol, naturally. How would suggest these people be served, if a landowner had the inclination?

In so far as private property, and believing in it, I don't believe in fairy tales. You own what the Court says you own, nothing further.

But I am not enjoying the murder of a nation disguised as the suicide of an empire.

The only good that will come of this are those few who, by chance, have better lives. I hope they are enjoyed, their progeny will fare no better than their grandparents. But, for those who would rather have cheap strawberries I guess I can understand how that would matter little.

[Swordsmyth]

I can't help but wonder if the sort of people a communist government would imprison aren't exactly the sort we need.

Look at who Biden imprisons, and who is released these days.

As if the commies would release anti-commies to come here.
They are sending their murderers and rapists etc.

[Swordsmyth]

I don't disagree with most of that. I have said Latin Americans shouldn't be happy about American officials influencing their politics. If Venezuela wishes to be marxist, that's fine. Just keep it out of my country.

However, lines are drawn on a map for a reason. There is a reason for the difference between the border towns of Nogales, Arizona and Nogales, Mexico. This difference isn't due to racism, homophobia, or any other latest progressive fad. Despite its flaws, and despite it being cool to say the US system sucked, it really was about the best that the world had to offer until recent times. I would like to return to what we had. Bitch all you want, but there is a reason why people want to move here, and all those in the US who complain, don't move to Nogales Mexico or Venezuela. That line separates a way of life. It should be defended.

Many "Americans" are part of the effort to destroy our way of life and drag us down into the global communist pig sty.

[acptulsa]

As if the commies would release anti-commies to come here.
They are sending their murderers and rapists etc.

Prove it.

The real world doesn't spend all its time figuring out how to reinforce your agenda, and your preconceived notions. What do you know about the records of these people--I asked what you know, not what you theorize? Who is this communist creeper named Biden releasing from prison, and who are they keeping locked up for a year and eight months without trial?

Think for once.

Show.

Me.

Your.

Source.

Unless, of course, you pulled it out of your ass. We've all seen you show us that before.



I'm not allowed to ask you if you're paid to spend hours every night trying to drive a wedge between the GOP and its fastest growing demographic. But I can still ask you why you're doing it. Is this the sort of "political realism" you accuse libertarians of lacking when you habitually insult us?

[Invisible Man]

In so far as private property, and believing in it, I don't believe in fairy tales. You own what the Court says you own, nothing further.

OK. So you're a communist. What are you doing here then?

[Swordsmyth]

Prove it.

Our prisons are full of proof.
And our politics are full of Troskyites that fled the USSR.
The burden of proof is on you that they are allowing anticommunists to leave and not dumping their trash on us.

The real world doesn't spend all its time figuring out how to reinforce your agenda, and your preconceived notions. What do you know about the records of these people--I asked what you know, not what you theorize? Who is this communist creeper named Biden releasing from prison, and who are they keeping locked up for a year and eight months without trial?

I conform my agenda to the real world, that makes it easy for me.
And you just helped my side, Biden is releasing criminals and locking up political opponents, just like Maduro does, only since the US is the target Biden doesn't send them abroad.

Think for once.

That is what you need to do.

Show.

Me.

Your.

Source.

Unless, of course, you pulled it out of your ass. We've all seen you show us that before.

The source is in the OP and in news story after news story that has been posted here over the years.
You have no source for your position.

I'm not allowed to ask you if you're paid to spend hours every night trying to drive a wedge between the GOP and its fastest growing demographic. But I can still ask you why you're doing it. Is this the sort of "political realism" you accuse libertarians of lacking when you habitually insult us?

Hispanics are not all the same, those being sent from Venezuela's prisons and those coming illegally from over the hispanic world are much different from American hispanics who have been here for generations and from legal hispanic immigrants.
The American hispanics and the legal immigrants tend to agree with me about the others and about immigration and the border in general.

You don't need just political realism, you need to get in contact with reality in general.

[acptulsa]

The source is in the OP and in news story after news story that has been posted here over the years.
You have no source for your position.

The Department of Homeland Security. Millions dead from myocarditis and the mutterings of a federal agency are still Gospel to you. I say, if, then, and you say, this bureau run by a guy named Biden says, so it must be true.

You don't need just political realism, you need to get in contact with reality in general.

Because I don't buy what Biden's DHS says hook, line and sinker. How's your clot jab treating you?

He says, I questioned the government narrative so I must be out of touch with reality. But I must not ask if someone's paying him to. I can do this.

Hispanics are not all the same, those being sent from Venezuela's prisons and those coming illegally from over the hispanic world are much different from American hispanics who have been here for generations and from legal hispanic immigrants.

Wow. It really looked for a second there like you were about to say individuals are individuals, and don't operate in lockstep in monolithic blocks like automatons, according to their demographics. You had a narrow escape, there. If you hadn't swerved at the last second, you'd have wound up sounding downright human.