If you're calling them "migrants", you're a trained parrot.

[Snowball]

I want us to think about words and meanings for a moment. Consider how we know - from their own works - that the re-definition and imposition of meanings with old words and introduction of new words is psychologically one of their primary brainwashing tools; carefully curated by think-tanks, NGO's and Ph.D. psychologists.

In recent months, and fully now, even the fraudulent "conservative" television media - like Fox News, no longer refers to these people as "illegals".
Here is a running breakdown of the brainwashing off the top of my head:

1) ILLEGAL ALIENS - what we used to call them. Phil Collins even did a hit song about them.
2) ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS - less "insulting" term that replaced ILLEGAL ALIENS.
3) UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS - didn't last long, was quickly replaced by...
4) UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS - here, the goal phrase reveals itself.
5) MIGRANTS - Boom! That's the one they always wanted. Let's consider why...

Benefits:

"MIGRANTS" - a) does not denote that they already have a citizenship in a foreign country. b) suggests they are less harmful, and are only coming here temporarily, like migrating birds, or migrating populations within one country (that is the original meaning). c) Migrants enjoying all the priveleges - even more - than American citizens is meant to encourage this, reward it, and normalise it. d) MIGRANTS can be deposited and inculcated ANYWHERE in the United States, and nobody can stop them, because they are merely "migrating", you see... e) Cimate Change Migrants - that's coming next. Major disruptions around the world will cause millions of "climate refugees", increasing MIGRATION = have you noticed this depends upon the elimination of STATE SOVEREIGNTY, while the previous terms all recognised state sovereignty? That's why they were disposed of.

[Invisible Man]

Conspicuously absent from the OP is any reason the definition of the word “migrant “ does not apply to these people just fine.

[PAF]

The world has always had an influx of people.





Once the Beacon of Liberty and Freedom, 1. the U.S. is adopting 3rd world tactics and solutions. 2. it is not foreigners who hate us for our freedoms [Bill of Rights], it is Americans right here at home. 3. Americans are so incredibly dumbed down and beyond mentally retarded, they can't see how politicians on BOTH sides, lobbyists, MIC, etc. are implementing "solutions" which will ultimately enslave us all. That is the globalist objective, and people buy it hook line and sinker.

[TheTexan]

The world has always had an influx of people.

Not anything remotely to this scale.

[PAF]

Not anything remotely to this scale.

Look how dumbed-down Amerikans have become over the decades. But rather than address the root of the problems, stoopid people make matters worse and become complicit to the problems with even more anti-freedom solutions.

And you wonder why our country is in the shape that it is in?

[Marenco]

Look how dumbed-down Amerikans have become over the decades. But rather than address the root of the problems, stoopid people make matters worse and become complicit to the problems with even more anti-freedom solutions.

And you wonder why our country is in the shape that it is in?

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[TheTexan]

Look how dumbed-down Amerikans have become over the decades. But rather than address the root of the problems, stoopid people make matters worse and become complicit to the problems with even more anti-freedom solutions.

And you wonder why our country is in the shape that it is in?

Know what's worse than a country of stoopid people? A country full of stoopid people who are at each other's throats because they have no shared history, no shared culture, no shared ethics, nothing in common.

That's what mass immigration has created.

[Anti Federalist]

Know what's worse than a country of stoopid people? A country full of stoopid people who are at each other's throats because they have no shared history, no shared culture, no shared ethics, nothing in common.

That's what mass immigration has created.

[Anti Federalist]

The world has always had an influx of people.

There are 8 billion people in the world.

They can not all come here.

Once the Beacon of Liberty and Freedom, 1. the U.S. is adopting 3rd world tactics and solutions.

And why do you suppose that is?

Because of massive influxes of third world invaders.

[tod evans]

The argument that 'we need' more bodies is insane on its face.

The country could certainly use more productive individuals but one must take into account the amount of unproductive citizens society is supporting before looking to employ migrants in jobs suited for the untrained/unproductive members of society.

Just because foreigners are willing to work doesn't mean it's a good idea to let them contribute to the delinquency of entire swaths of society who won't work.

The whole 'migrant' discussion completely ignores the freeloaders that tax-dollars are already funding. And that's before any discussion about government freebies for foreigners.

[Anti Federalist]

1) ILLEGAL ALIENS - what we used to call them. Phil Collins even did a hit song about them.
2) ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS - less "insulting" term that replaced ILLEGAL ALIENS.
3) UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS - didn't last long, was quickly replaced by...
4) UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS - here, the goal phrase reveals itself.
5) MIGRANTS - Boom! That's the one they always wanted. Let's consider why...

They are none of the above.

They are invaders, funded, trained, organized and launched against us by enemies of the republic, both external and internal.

Which is why even if all the goodies and handouts ceased, they would still be pouring across the border by the millions.

[PAF]

There are 8 billion people in the world.

They can not all come here.



And why do you suppose that is?

Because of massive influxes of third world invaders.

There are at least some of us who are well-informed:


Rank......City......Population......Percentage Change

1 Tokyo - 37,393,000 - +1.5%
2 Delhi - 30,291,000 - +38.1%
3 Shanghai - 27,058,000 - +35.4%
4 São Paulo - 22,043,000 - +12.1%
5 Mexico City - 21,782,000 - +8.2%
6 Dhaka - 21,006,000
7 Cairo - 20,901,000
8 Beijing - 20,463,000
9 Mumbai - 20,411,000
10 Osaka - 19,165,000


Hell, NYC (<9 mil population) doesn't even come close, it's like living in the sticks.

If you're serious about preserving what this country once stood for, you'd support the Bill of Rights 100% and contact your reps, and not play into the hands of the statists.

[Anti Federalist]

There are at least some of us who are well-informed:


Rank......City......Population......Percentage Change

1 Tokyo - 37,393,000 - +1.5%
2 Delhi - 30,291,000 - +38.1%
3 Shanghai - 27,058,000 - +35.4%
4 São Paulo - 22,043,000 - +12.1%
5 Mexico City - 21,782,000 - +8.2%
6 Dhaka - 21,006,000
7 Cairo - 20,901,000
8 Beijing - 20,463,000
9 Mumbai - 20,411,000
10 Osaka - 19,165,000


Hell, NYC (<9 mil population) doesn't even come close, it's like living in the sticks.

If you're serious about preserving what this country once stood for, you'd support the Bill of Rights 100% and contact your reps, and not play into the hands of the statists.

First of all, I'd blow my own $#@!ing face off before being forced to live in one of those teeming $#@!holes.

Even the more sane ones like Tokyo or Osaka.

But the rest? Blechhh...

I do send off SWOLDs to my reps, on a regular basis...many I have reposted here.

And I am ignored by them, because they believe in the invasion and Marxist revolution.

[tod evans]

There are at least some of us who are well-informed:


Rank......City......Population......Percentage Change

1 Tokyo - 37,393,000 - +1.5%
2 Delhi - 30,291,000 - +38.1%
3 Shanghai - 27,058,000 - +35.4%
4 São Paulo - 22,043,000 - +12.1%
5 Mexico City - 21,782,000 - +8.2%
6 Dhaka - 21,006,000
7 Cairo - 20,901,000
8 Beijing - 20,463,000
9 Mumbai - 20,411,000
10 Osaka - 19,165,000


Hell, NYC (<9 mil population) doesn't even come close, it's like living in the sticks.

If you're serious about preserving what this country once stood for, you'd support the Bill of Rights 100% and contact your reps, and not play into the hands of the statists.

Looks like San Francisco is doing a damn good job of emulating the living conditions in those fine cities.

Maybe box up the inhabitants and ship them all to the overpopulated $#@!hole of choice from the ones you've listed. We could use the empty shipping containers going back.

[Snowball]

Conspicuously absent from the OP is any reason the definition of the word “migrant “ does not apply to these people just fine.

Read again. Our national Sovereignty and their own foreign Citizenship makes them IMMIGRANTS, or ALIENS, not merely "MIGRANTS".

[Snowball]

They are none of the above.

They are invaders, funded, trained, organized and launched against us by enemies of the republic, both external and internal.

Which is why even if all the goodies and handouts ceased, they would still be pouring across the border by the millions.

We'll never know if they would or not. What we do know is they are indeed funded and they do indeed receive comprehensive care here, unlike those who preceded them, in wiser times.

[69360]

I call them illegals. It's what they are. But I do have some sympathy for them. From my own interactions with them, they just want to work. I have no problems with them. They should get nothing from the US government but a green card.

[Invisible Man]

I call them illegals. It's what they are. But I do have some sympathy for them. From my own interactions with them, they just want to work. I have no problems with them. They should get nothing from the US government but a green card.

All of us have done illegal things. Therefore all of us are “illegals.” That doesn’t make for a very useful description though.

[TheCount]

You are conflating multiple different things.

Someone who applied for asylum at the border is neither undocumented nor illegal.

Someone who snuck across the border is both.

[69360]

You are conflating multiple different things.

Someone who applied for asylum at the border is neither undocumented nor illegal.

Someone who snuck across the border is both.

The majority of those seeking asylum at the border know damn well they won't qualify for it. A system has been set up where they walk up to the border, claim asylum and are released with a court date nobody expects them to appear at. It's easier than sneaking in now.

I think instead they should just be handed a green card and sent on their way. Then they can work legally. Give them no handouts at all.

[Invisible Man]

Read again. Our national Sovereignty and their own foreign Citizenship makes them IMMIGRANTS, or ALIENS, not merely "MIGRANTS".

You must be working with your own definition of the word "migrant."

There's nothing about being immigrants or aliens that means someone can't be a migrant.

[RJB]

All of you collectivists who foolishly believe in national sovereignity, should listen to the anti-collectivists who tell you that Amerikans are all stupid, lazy statists, and immigrants from socialist nations who don't speak English are all freedom loving, hard working, family oriented folks. Hopefully the rest of the country will soon become as great as California which is on its way to becoming as awesome as Venezuela.

[oyarde]

I would think of migrants as someone who comes to do seasonal work and goes back to the home they have when completed. I would view immigrants as someone who decided to do whatever is required of them to become a citizen ( just as I would if I tried to move somewhere else). I personally do not think it is in the best interest of citizens where I live to accept anyone not completely able to provide for themselves with no drain on public dollars. The US has enough people already to take care of there are no reasons to accept non producers. America is in the toilet , exceeding two decades of overall dismal GDP and a workforce participation rate that is too low . Adding anyone to the non productive pile is just not acceptable.

[Invisible Man]

I would think of migrants as someone who comes to do seasonal work and goes back to the home they have when completed.

That's definitely one meaning of migrant. Or similarly it could be someone who travels around doing seasonal work, not necessarily going home every year, but possibly going somewhere else to do other work. And by that definition, I don't see how we can rule all these people out.

But that's not the only way to use the word migrant either.

[Occam's Banana]

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[TheTexan]

contact your reps

lol

[pcosmar]

You must be working with your own definition of the word "migrant."

There's nothing about being immigrants or aliens that means someone can't be a migrant.

A migrant comes to work and leaves for work elsewhere..Traveling Workers..

Not Immigrants.

and these folks that came from over 50 countries did not come to pick crops.

Several are shipping Fentanal from China.

[Anti Federalist]

A migrant comes to work and leaves for work elsewhere..Traveling Workers..

Not Immigrants.

In more sane and rational times they were called "hoboes".

[Anti Globalist]

I will continue referring to them as illegals and will not succumb to calling them migrants.

[Snowball]

You must be working with your own definition of the word "migrant."

There's nothing about being immigrants or aliens that means someone can't be a migrant.

That wasn't my point. My point was that "migrants" does not connotate immigrants and aliens,
hence, the acknowledgement of sovereignty and citizenship is not raised in the mind.