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    Ross Perot

    Anybody think he would have been best President in our lifetime

    Trump’s stated positions are all the same, but this guy struck me as the real deal with financial responsibility



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    I'm left not knowing what to think about Perot.

    It was widely reported years later that he was on the phone daily with Bill Klinton during the election.

    If true, Perot saved us from the fascist globalist and handed us over to the commie/fascist globalist.

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    His commitment & contributions to Veterans & his community cement him as pretty freaking good guy in my book

    Of course he got smeared by press once he entered political ball-field

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    Yes, he would have been the best since JFK.
    "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ... Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - J.F.K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Yes, he would have been the best since JFK.
    Do you think todays Liberals would admire JFK as being a great president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Anybody think he would have been best President in our lifetime

    Trump’s stated positions are all the same, but this guy struck me as the real deal with financial responsibility
    DeSantis has all the same positions as Trump but without the controversy, scandals, crudeness, shady past business deals etc. Plus has a strong record as governor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Do you think todays Liberals would admire JFK as being a great president?
    Hell no, he would be a white supremacist, facist, homophobic, womanizing etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    DeSantis has all the same positions as Trump but without the controversy, scandals, crudeness, shady past business deals etc. Plus has a strong record as governor.
    People don't Read the Record. Like how many red [bad] marks are next to his name.

    Ron DeSantis On The Record
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer



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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    DeSantis has all the same positions as Trump but without the controversy, scandals, crudeness, shady past business deals etc. Plus has a strong record as governor.
    Is DeSantis a protectionist too? If so, that's disappointing.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Is DeSantis a protectionist too? If so, that's disappointing.
    Maybe, don't really care. You can be one of those people who won't vote for a decent candidate because they don't conform to your pet issue or we could elect somebody with an overall very good record who we mostly agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Anybody think he would have been best President in our lifetime

    Trump’s stated positions are all the same, but this guy struck me as the real deal with financial responsibility
    I think he would have been a good president.
    "I am a bird"

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Anybody think he would have been best President in our lifetime

    Trump’s stated positions are all the same, but this guy struck me as the real deal with financial responsibility
    No, he was allowed to be intimidated by the Bush gang. He lacked the balls that Trump and DeSantis have.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    No, he was allowed to be intimidated by the Bush gang. He lacked the balls that Trump and DeSantis have.
    Oh, sure. I can totally see Trump or Desantis on the ground at Gasr in Tehran.

    Not.

    Your hot take leaves me very cold.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 08-15-2022 at 02:52 PM.
    "Pity we didn't nominate Rand Paul--a man who actually has the Alpha Cojones to put his life on the line, but unfortunately lacks the bad taste necessary to brag about them."-- acptulsa

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Oh, sure. I can totally see Trump or Desantis on the ground at Gasr in Tehran.

    Not.

    Your hot take leaves me very cold.
    I was referring to his daughters wedding. However, Perot did not single handedly go to Tehran.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    ..
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    I think he would have been a good president.
    Agreed



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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    I heard he voted for Biden in 2020.
    From the grave?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    From the grave?
    Yes like many others.

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    I have always wondered about the veracity of Perot's reason for dropping out.

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    Clinton was a quasi-good president because of the Republican Congress. It is hard for me to imagine what major issue outside of judges (maybe) Perot would have done a better job on than Clinton on. The right man won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Clinton was a quasi-good president because of the Republican Congress. It is hard for me to imagine what major issue outside of judges (maybe) Perot would have done a better job on than Clinton on. The right man won.


    Say NAFTA 1,000 times ...then do it again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Clinton was a quasi-good president because of the Republican Congress. It is hard for me to imagine what major issue outside of judges (maybe) Perot would have done a better job on than Clinton on. The right man won.
    Then start writing "Bosnia" on a blackboard.

    Next we'll start on Biden's little gem which introduced radically different sentences for people who use the form of cocaine rich white people prefer, and the form available in slums. Or don't you remember who signed off on that?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 08-15-2022 at 06:39 PM.
    "Pity we didn't nominate Rand Paul--a man who actually has the Alpha Cojones to put his life on the line, but unfortunately lacks the bad taste necessary to brag about them."-- acptulsa

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Say NAFTA 1,000 times ...then do it again
    I strongly support NAFTA so..... We live in the future. We can see it was good policy.



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    If I recall there was a poll that came out in May 1992 that said if the election were held today Perot would have won. It was around the same time that he ended up dropping out of the race then reentered the race a few months later but could not get his support back in time.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Then start writing "Bosnia" on a blackboard.

    Next we'll start on Biden's little gem which introduced radically different sentences for people who use the form of cocaine rich white people prefer, and the form available in slums. Or don't you remember who signed off on that?
    Holding spending flat outweighs everything. Plus he added the fewest regulatory employees of any modern president. He cut the capital gains rate and created Roth IRAs. Perot was a mercantilist who supported raising the income tax, capital gains rate, and tariffs.

    The 90s were the most libertarian decade since the 20s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Holding spending flat outweighs everything. Plus he added the fewest regulatory employees of any modern president. He cut the capital gains rate and created Roth IRAs. Perot was a mercantilist who supported raising the income tax, capital gains rate, and tariffs.

    The 90s were the most libertarian decade since the 20s.
    And you think Perot would have been more fiscally irresponsible because..?

    Because not starting a splendid little war and not stuffing a huge percentage of the population in federal prison during "the most libertarian decade since the 20s" would have driven up spending?
    "Pity we didn't nominate Rand Paul--a man who actually has the Alpha Cojones to put his life on the line, but unfortunately lacks the bad taste necessary to brag about them."-- acptulsa

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    Krug's on crack. Hey that's kool in Libertarian land. Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Krug's on crack. Hey that's kool in Libertarian land. Peace
    Oh, he just can't see anything but the bull.

    Market, that is.



    "Pity we didn't nominate Rand Paul--a man who actually has the Alpha Cojones to put his life on the line, but unfortunately lacks the bad taste necessary to brag about them."-- acptulsa

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Oh, sure. I can totally see Trump or Desantis on the ground at Gasr in Tehran.

    Not.

    Your hot take leaves me very cold.
    First president to meet with a North Korean leader in over half a century? I could definitely see Trump getting on a plane and meeting face to face with America's adversaries.

    (and then turning it over to Pompeo, unfortunately. . . "if you want something done right . . . )
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

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