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  1. #661
    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1803108315670458592

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  3. #662
    3. Lengthy prison sentences for illegals who stay and are found. STATIST/Government Intervention. Leave them alone unless a violation to person or property has been committed.

    Them being here is a violation to my person.

    The rest we round-up. Leave them alone unless a violation to person or property has been committed.

    Again, them just being here is a violation to my person.
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  4. #663
    Quote Originally Posted by sam1952 View Post
    3. Lengthy prison sentences for illegals who stay and are found. STATIST/Government Intervention. Leave them alone unless a violation to person or property has been committed.

    Them being here is a violation to my person.

    The rest we round-up. Leave them alone unless a violation to person or property has been committed.

    Again, them just being here is a violation to my person.
    Okayyyy... I can make the same claim about you. Unless you harmed my person or property, there's not much that I can do about it.

    Here's a trick: Try not to sound like one of Biden's peeps who feel injured by one's mere presence lol
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  5. #664
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Okayyyy... I can make the same claim about you. Unless you harmed my person or property, there's not much that I can do about it.

    Here's a trick: Try not to sound like one of Biden's peeps who feel injured by one's mere presence lol
    Sorry, I’ll clarify since you didn’t understand my comments. Their being here is a violation of our laws. Therefore a violation to myself and all other legal people (citizen, legal immigrant, ect.)
    My presence, whether you like it or not, doesn’t matter. Same as your presence (assuming you fall into legal status) goes the same way for me.
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  7. #665
    Quote Originally Posted by sam1952 View Post
    Sorry, I’ll clarify since you didn’t understand my comments. Their being here is a violation of our laws. Therefore a violation to myself and all other legal people (citizen, legal immigrant, ect.)
    My presence, whether you like it or not, doesn’t matter. Same as your presence (assuming you fall into legal status) goes the same way for me.
    I will clarify myself as well. I am one of those "anarchists" which Statists hate so much. I don't subscribe to deeming human beings "legal" or "illegal", conjured up by government and their interventionism.

    That said, I do hold to contract rights and property rights. Unless one owns an actual deed to a piece of property, you have no right determining whether I, or some immigrant, travel freely or not on public land.

    I don't care to get into that constitution either. Aside from Natural Rights [which apply to all human beings] outlined in the Bill of Rights, I have no use for that socialist document.

    "They hate us for our freedoms." It is Amerikans who actually hate us for our freedoms. See 4th and 5th Amendments for this exercise.
    Last edited by PAF; 06-18-2024 at 02:45 PM.
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  8. #666
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I will clarify myself as well. I am one of those "anarchists" which Statists hate so much. I don't subscribe to deeming human beings "legal" or "illegal", conjured up by government and their interventionism.

    That said, I do hold to contract rights and property rights. Unless one owns an actual deed to a piece of property, you have no right determining whether I, or some immigrant, travel freely or not on public land.

    I don't care to get into that constitution either. Aside from Natural Rights [which apply to all human beings] outlined in the Bill of Rights, I have no use for that socialist document.

    "They hate is for our freedoms." It is Amerikans who actually hate us for our freedoms. See 4th and 5th Amendments for this exercise.
    Hey I’m right there with you on the 4th and 5th Amendments. I also believe in human rights for all people. Where we separate is the borders of a country define that country. The same as a deed/survey of plot of land determine its borders/ownership. I believe all legal citizens of a country are owners of that property.
    I’m saying all this without getting into the violations we are subjected to daily by our own elected leaders.
    "Nobody wins in a Dairy Challenge" ~ Kenny Rogers, RIP


    "When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken, or cease to be honest." ~ anonymous


    “The fate of all mankind I see
    Is in the hands of fools” ~ King Crimson

  9. #667
    Quote Originally Posted by sam1952 View Post
    Sorry, I’ll clarify since you didn’t understand my comments. Their being here is a violation of our laws. Therefore a violation to myself and all other legal people (citizen, legal immigrant, ect.)
    My presence, whether you like it or not, doesn’t matter. Same as your presence (assuming you fall into legal status) goes the same way for me.
    Actually, that's not true.

    The Federal government has jurisdiction on the border, and the enforcement of any codes. As of today, there are over 170 sanctuary cities and counties, plus 12 whole states. They ignore Federal codes and laws they don't want to follow, and supplant them with their own directives.

    Which Trump never held them accountable for. In their jurisdictions, there are no illegals.

    None of the sanctuary governors, mayors, sheriffs have been charged by the Feds. Trump did nothing, because he's both stupid and a paper tiger. He refused to use his executive powers, and his AG's did nothing.

    It wasn't even suggested. Barr, Whitaker, and Sessions - big fat zeroes like Trump.
    Last edited by Snowball; 06-18-2024 at 02:55 PM.
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  10. #668
    Quote Originally Posted by sam1952 View Post
    Hey I’m right there with you on the 4th and 5th Amendments. I also believe in human rights for all people. Where we separate is the borders of a country define that country. The same as a deed/survey of plot of land determine its borders/ownership. I believe all legal citizens of a country are owners of that property.
    I’m saying all this without getting into the violations we are subjected to daily by our own elected leaders.

    ^ The bolded part. ^ Quick and easy: nationalism, communism, to me it's all the same. Square that away, and maybe we'll get somewhere, fiscally and yields the most freedom.
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  11. #669
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Actually, that's not true.

    The Federal government has jurisdiction on the border, and the enforcement of any codes. As of today, there are over 170 sanctuary cities and counties, plus 12 whole states. They ignore codes and laws they don't want to follow. Which Trump never held them accountable for. In their jurisdictions, there are no illegals.

    None of the sanctuary governors, mayors, sheriffs have been charged by the Feds. Trump did nothing, because he's both stupid and a paper tiger.
    That is hard to argue with as I agree for the most part. I do not have TDS.
    "Nobody wins in a Dairy Challenge" ~ Kenny Rogers, RIP


    "When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken, or cease to be honest." ~ anonymous


    “The fate of all mankind I see
    Is in the hands of fools” ~ King Crimson

  12. #670
    @sam1952

    To expand on my previous post, the U.S. "border" in my mind is meant to signify that we defend and protect the Bill of Rights, regardless of what other nations do.
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  13. #671
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    @sam1952

    To expand on my previous post, the U.S. "border" in my mind is meant to signify that we defend and protect the Bill of Rights, regardless of what other nations do.
    Uncle Smedley said: there are only two legitimate reasons to go to war, to defend our homes and defend the Bill of Rights.

    BOTH are under severe attack.
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  14. #672
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Uncle Smedley said: there are only two legitimate reasons to go to war, to defend our homes and defend the Bill of Rights.

    BOTH are under severe attack.
    Now is not the time to defend anything. You just aren't demanding hard enough. Have you considered stomping your feet and demanding an end to welfare and NGOs? Maybe a strongly worded letter with an angry emogi. Demand harder. If you still insist on defending yourself, you may be called a racist.
    Last edited by RJB; 06-18-2024 at 05:29 PM.
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  16. #673
    https://x.com/AFpost/status/1803212784802361616



    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan
    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  17. #674
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    That said, I do hold to contract rights and property rights. Unless one owns an actual deed to a piece of property, you have no right determining whether I, or some immigrant, travel freely or not on public land.
    One has no more right to "travel freely" into or across improved land that one does not own [property rights] or for which one has not been granted a right-of-way, easement, or other such instrument [contract rights], any more than one has a right to "education" or "health care" or such. Whether the (improved) land in question is "public" or not is irrelevant. [1] Stated differently, one no more has a "natural right" to (the availability or use of) improved "public" land than one has a "natural right" to (the availability or use of) "public" schools.

    It is no more a violation of one's rights to be barred from access to or use of improved but "publicly" owned land (or schools, etc.) than it is a violation of one's rights to be barred from access to or use of privately owned land (or schools, etc.) in the absence of any previously established contractual rights-of-way, easements, etc.



    [1] Ideally, "public" (i.e. socially collectivized) land, schools, etc. would not exist at all. But they do - and their existence does not create or conjure up any "rights" that would not otherwise exist in their absence. Rights do not come into or go out of existence contingent upon whether something is "public" or not. Any notion that they do is pinko-commie nonsense (which is why "progressive" leftists are so enamored of "open borders").
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 06-18-2024 at 11:05 PM.

  18. #675
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    One has no more right to "travel freely" into or across improved land that one does not own [property rights] or for which one has not been granted a right-of-way, easement, or other such instrument [contract rights], any more than one has a right to "education" or "health care" or such. Whether the (improved) land in question is "public" or not is irrelevant. [1] Stated differently, one no more has a "natural right" to (the availability or use of) improved "public" land than one has a "natural right" to (the availability or use of) "public" schools.

    It is no more a violation of one's rights to be barred from access to or use of improved but "publicly" owned land (or schools, etc.) than it is a violation of one's rights to be barred from access to or use of privately owned land (or schools, etc.) in the absence of any previously established contractual rights-of-way, easements, etc.



    [1] Ideally, "public" (i.e. socially collectivized) land, schools, etc. would not exist at all. But they do - and their existence does not create or conjure up any "rights" that would not otherwise exist in their absence. Rights do not come into or go out of existence contingent upon whether something is "public" or not. Any notion that they do is pinko-commie nonsense (which is why "progressive" leftists are so enamored of "open borders").

    Approximately 47% of the land in the U.S. is untouched/undeveloped/unimproved. There are no businesses, homes, schools, farms, easements, roads, airports, military, etc.

    You could of course make a positive case for the existence of BLM and/or other, even though I am opposed to that.

    Pinko-commie nonsense, huh? lol

    Don't confuse "open borders" with the closed border that we have today. Of which where people are being funneled for processing. And I am forced to pay for. Any notion that immigrants by the thousands/millions simply walk across the border without processing is statist nonsense. I would just as soon they didn't get a "free" government card and instead fend for themselves.
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  19. #676
    They are all getting Federal amnesty and work permits, drivers licenses in many states and some voting possibilities.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  20. #677
    Under whose power are the rights bestowed by the deed enforced? As an anarchist, I don't recognize your deed as legitimate. Oh, and I've more friends than you so.... Let me know when you're done packing.

  21. #678
    https://x.com/NatCon2022/status/1803483974154723649

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  22. #679
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://x.com/NatCon2022/status/1803483974154723649

    https://x.com/RenaissanceHor1/status...12939820761321

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  23. #680
    Reported as white.

    https://x.com/ImmigrantCrimes/status...80562826400192

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan



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  25. #681
    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1803916684807340359

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  26. #682
    https://x.com/AntiFeder1776/status/1803950741222006790

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  27. #683
    https://x.com/Project_Veritas/status...87015068045380

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  28. #684
    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1803553814177288265

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  29. #685
    https://x.com/i/status/1803840188361175167

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  30. #686
    https://x.com/CallanRodg56058/status...10401410077055

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  31. #687
    The OP, with citations and links.

    https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1804247863792132472

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  32. #688
    @PAF

    You want these people living next door to you, ready to burn you alive the second you step out of line?

    We are not the same as them, you and I, whether you want to admit it or not.

    You and I can argue all day long about politics and religion, disagree completely, but still share a beer and MC ride at the end of the day.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 06-21-2024 at 07:55 PM.
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  34. #689
    https://x.com/i/status/1804069351105986614

    “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan

  35. #690
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    @PAF

    You want these people living next door to you, ready to burn you alive the second you step out of line?

    We are not the same as them, you and I, whether you want to admit it or not.

    You and I can argue all day long about politics and religion, disagree completely, but still share a beer and MC ride at the end of the day.
    @Anti Federalist , I honestly don't pay attention to any of that. What I will pay attention to, is if/when we begin to support and defend our Bill of Rights, each and every one of them, and stop funding groups to transport them. Short of that, I really don't care.

    But def on the rest, as long as there's wings!
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