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    Indiana Abortion Ban

    Indiana becomes 1st state to approve abortion ban post Roe

    Indiana on Friday became the first state in the nation to approve abortion restrictions since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, as the Republican governor quickly signed a near-total ban on the procedure shortly after lawmakers approved it.

    The ban, which takes effect Sept. 15, includes some exceptions. Abortions would be permitted in cases of rape and incest, before 10-weeks post-fertilization; to protect the life and physical health of the mother; and if a fetus is diagnosed with a lethal anomaly. Victims of rape and incest would not be required to sign a notarized affidavit attesting to an attack, as had once been proposed.

    Under the bill, abortions can be performed only in hospitals or outpatient centers owned by hospitals, meaning all abortion clinics would lose their licenses. A doctor who performs an illegal abortion or fails to file required reports must also lose their medical license — wording that tightens current Indiana law that says a doctor “may” lose their license.
    My understanding is that the legislation was updated to include the exceptions following a GOP commissioned poll:

    The House and Senate GOP campaign committees conducted a poll on abortion shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court handed down the Dobbs v. Jackson decision on June 24. The polling firm is reliably Republican, but the results were shocking to some conservative members of the caucuses.
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    What is clear, according to the insiders, is that Hoosiers don’t want a near-virtual ban on abortion. Instead, they support exceptions for rape, incest and the life of the mother. And many are supportive of allowing abortion up to 15 weeks of gestation.



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    So all they need do is claim they were raped and abort away? No police report or documentation required?

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    Major pharmaceutical company looks to expand out of Indiana following abortion ban

    Indiana-based pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly announced in a statement obtained by The Hill on Saturday that it would look to expand employment growth outside the state following the passage of a near-total ban on abortion.
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    In the statement Eli Lilly said that the issue of abortion is sensitive and there is “no clear consensus among the citizens on Indiana.”

    “Despite this lack of agreement, Indiana has opted to quickly adopt one of the most restrictive anti-abortion laws in the United States. We are concerned that this law will hinder Lilly’s – and Indiana’s – ability to attract diverse scientific, engineering and business talent from around the world,” the company added.

    Eli Lilly had previously expanded its employees’ health care coverage to pay for travel to access out-of-state abortion care. But the company said that might not be enough “for some current and potential employees.”

    “As a global company headquartered in Indianapolis for more than 145 years, we work hard to retain and attract thousands of people who are important drivers of our state’s economy. Given this new law, we will be forced to plan for more employment growth outside our home state,” the company concluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    So all they need do is claim they were raped and abort away? No police report or documentation required?
    You caught that, eh? I'm wondering if the police can seize the fetal tissue under such circumstances - to begin an investigation based upon DNA (we no longer have the right to privacy in our medical procedures).

    Indiana - soon to become the rape capital of the United States.
    Last edited by Voluntarist; 08-06-2022 at 02:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    So all they need do is claim they were raped and abort away? No police report or documentation required?
    Larger question is if these medical professionals will be required to report any rape allegations. Typically, that is the case.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Larger question is if these medical professionals will be required to report any rape allegations. Typically, that is the case.
    Then the fetus carrying individual will say they didn't know the person that raped them in the dark alley when they were on their way home and they didn't file a report just because they never believe us.

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    Add Cummins to the list speaking out about the law:

    Cummins, an engine manufacturing company that also employs about 10,000 people in Indiana, spoke out over the weekend against the new law as well.

    “The right to make decisions regarding reproductive health ensures that women have the same opportunity as others to participate fully in our workforce and that our workforce is diverse,” a company spokesman said in a statement.

    “There are provisions in the law that conflict with this, impact our people, impede our ability to attract and retain top talent and influence our decisions as we continue to grow our footprint with a focus on selecting welcoming and inclusive environments,” the Cummins spokesman said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    Add Cummins to the list speaking out about the law:
    Cummins has been the most woke Hoosier company for decades. They offered health ins to gay partners before it was ever thought of elsewhere. These companies can whine if they like. Nothing changes here . There were only six abortion clinics in tHe state of nearly 100 counties. These companies will never find employees as qualified and diligent as they Have here if they move west , north or east . All they can get are higher taxes. My guess is most of te usual 5k to 7600 abortions performed here ea yr will still be performed in illinois. Some may not which personally I think is OK. Also , bet none of those abortions are cummins or ely employees , they make themselves look foolish. I'm proud to say I dont use products made by them and was never employed by them. Woke companies run by woke executives in a place tat doesnt seek to benefit from the agendas they have.
    Last edited by oyarde; 08-06-2022 at 08:03 PM.
    Do something Danke



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    Here's something to keep it in the public's eye as election day approaches:
    Indiana abortion clinics reopening after judge blocks ban
    After an Indiana judge on Thursday blocked the state’s abortion ban from being enforced, phones starting ringing across Indiana abortion clinics, which are preparing to resume the procedure a week after the ban had gone into effect.

    “People are getting the word that abortion is now legal again, and people are ready to get their health care that they deserve and that they desire,” Dr. Katie McHugh, an abortion provider at Women’s Med in Indianapolis, told The Associated Press.

    Owen County Judge Kelsey Hanlon issued a preliminary injunction against the ban, putting the new law on hold as abortion clinic operators argue in a lawsuit that it violates the state constitution.

    Indiana’s seven abortion clinics were to lose their state licenses under the ban — which only permits abortions within its narrow exceptions to take place in hospitals or outpatient surgical centers.
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    The judge wrote “there is reasonable likelihood that this significant restriction of personal autonomy offends the liberty guarantees of the Indiana Constitution” and that the clinics will prevail in the lawsuit. The order prevents the state from enforcing the ban pending a trial on the merits of the lawsuit.
    ... and yes, it's getting played up in Democratic politics - keeping the whole topic on max volume approaching election day.

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    Judge blocks Indiana abortion ban on religious freedom grounds

    A second Indiana judge on Friday blocked the state from enforcing its law banning most abortions after Jewish, Muslim and other non-Christian women challenged it in a lawsuit.

    Marion County Superior Court Judge Heather Welch issued a preliminary injunction against the Republican-backed law, which prohibits abortions with limited exceptions for rape, incest, lethal fetal abnormalities or a serious health risk to the mother. The plaintiffs have argued that the measure infringes on religious freedom protected by another state law.

    The law had already been on hold, as another judge in September blocked Indiana from enforcing it while Planned Parenthood and other healthcare providers challenge it in court.
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    "The Court finds that S.E.A. 1 substantially burdens the religious exercise of the Plaintiffs," Welch wrote, using the formal name of the law, in granting the plaintiffs' motion for a preliminary injunction while the challenge to its legality proceeds.

    "Although some religions believe that human life begins at conception, this is not an opinion shared by all religions or all religious people," the ACLU said in a statement."The Court finds that S.E.A. 1 substantially burdens the religious exercise of the Plaintiffs," Welch wrote, using the formal name of the law, in granting the plaintiffs' motion for a preliminary injunction while the challenge to its legality proceeds.

    "Although some religions believe that human life begins at conception, this is not an opinion shared by all religions or all religious people," the ACLU said in a statement.

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    Need to start arresting Women for Murder when they kill their babies. and Publicly Shame them.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    dem machine spent a lot of money before last election in large urban centers here . It got them zero . No anti abortion encumbent in the state lost.
    Do something Danke



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