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Thread: A Fraud or a Fighter? Just Who Is Alex Jones? A Review of “Alex’s War”

  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    “First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out,
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out,
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out,
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.”

    ― Martin Niemöller

    Nothing new under the sun.
    Psalm 35:7-10, Psalm 109, Isaiah 13:9



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    Psalm 35:7-10, Psalm 109, Isaiah 13:9

  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    The punitive damages should have been higher.
    Do not many states limit punitive damages so it doesn't matter what the jury awards?

  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Do not many states limit punitive damages so it doesn't matter what the jury awards?
    Yes. Sadly, Texas has a cap on punitive damages, so scum like Jones can simply build that risk into their cost of doing business and continue to spread lies. So long as gullible morons lap up their swill like so much Jim Jones kool aid, they'll still make a profit.

    The Texas statute limits punitive damages to an amount equal to the greater of:

    (1)(A) two times the amount of economic damages; plus

    (B) an amount equal to any noneconomic damages found by the jury, not to exceed $750,000; or

    (2) $200,000.

    If the $4.1 million compensatory damage verdict represents noneconomic damages the most that Jones or his company would have to pay in punitives would be $750,000. The cap is per defendant, so the plaintiffs may be looking at only $1.5 million in punitives.
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
    Anonymous

  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Yes. Sadly, Texas has a cap on punitive damages, so scum like Jones can simply build that risk into their cost of doing business and continue to spread lies. So long as gullible morons lap up their swill like so much Jim Jones kool aid, they'll still make a profit.

    The Texas statute limits punitive damages to an amount equal to the greater of:

    (1)(A) two times the amount of economic damages; plus

    (B) an amount equal to any noneconomic damages found by the jury, not to exceed $750,000; or

    (2) $200,000.

    If the $4.1 million compensatory damage verdict represents noneconomic damages the most that Jones or his company would have to pay in punitives would be $750,000. The cap is per defendant, so the plaintiffs may be looking at only $1.5 million in punitives.
    So in a risk cost analysis it might have been concluded that the cheaper way to go is to not defend himself but rather just pay the penalty after judgement rather than the expense of a long trial.

  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    If Jones wanted to raise a First Amendment issue, he could have. Instead, his continual disobedience of court orders resulted in the judge's rendering a default judgment against him, which means he lost any ability to defend the case on the merits. So if you want to blame someone for this case setting a bad precedent, blame Jones.
    (The case doesn't really set a precedent, except for narcissistic fools who would repeat Jones's obstructive tactics).

    People who knowingly say things that are false and that result in harm to other people get sued all the time. It's called defamation and/or intentional infliction of emotional distress, and it isn't protected by the First Amendment.
    He was not allow to make the first amendment as his defense.

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  9. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    He was not allow to make the first amendment as his defense.

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    NPCs among us...
    Psalm 35:7-10, Psalm 109, Isaiah 13:9

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    He was not allow to make the first amendment as his defense.
    The reason he wasn't allowed is because he continued to disobey court orders, after which the judge had no alternative but to use the nuclear option: enter a default judgment, which she is permitted to do under the Teas rules. The same thing happened in Connecticut.

    The3 moral of the story is that if you want to make a First Amendment claim don't effectively tell the judge to piss up a stump.
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
    Anonymous

  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    The reason he wasn't allowed is because he continued to disobey court orders, after which the judge had no alternative but to use the nuclear option: enter a default judgment, which she is permitted to do under the Teas rules. The same thing happened in Connecticut.

    The3 moral of the story is that if you want to make a First Amendment claim don't effectively tell the judge to piss up a stump.
    No he didn't, he and his lawyer completely complied and yet it wasn't good enough. You are just listening to their side.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    The reason he wasn't allowed is because he continued to disobey court orders, after which the judge had no alternative but to use the nuclear option: enter a default judgment, which she is permitted to do under the Teas rules. The same thing happened in Connecticut.

    The3 moral of the story is that if you want to make a First Amendment claim don't effectively tell the judge to piss up a stump.
    You go get 'em, tiger!



    Psalm 35:7-10, Psalm 109, Isaiah 13:9

  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    When I heard Alex Jones lost, I literally thought of you and logged onto this website. I hope those parents sue people like you next. You do zero research and accuse people of murdering/trafficing their children. You mindlessly share fake news and never leave your house.
    OUCH...$#@!'s sake.

    Angela TC's sock puppet account?
    "Truly, whoever can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    OUCH...$#@!'s sake.

    Angela TC's sock puppet account?
    LOL,,
    I thought AJ took it too far..but he does push limits..

    When the Truth is withheld,, speculation runs wild.

    AJ said NO One was killed, it was all Fake.

    I Believe that it did not happen as reported.

    First Amendment does have LIMITS..

    Slander, and "Fighting Words" and outright lies are not protected speech.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    LOL,,
    I thought AJ took it too far..but he does push limits..

    When the Truth is withheld,, speculation runs wild.

    AJ said NO One was killed, it was all Fake.

    I Believe that it did not happen as reported.

    First Amendment does have LIMITS..

    Slander, and "Fighting Words" and outright lies are not protected speech.
    Do you think AJ ever actually thought that what he was saying at the time was what happened?

  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Do you think AJ ever actually thought that what he was saying at the time was what happened?
    I have never been any good at reading minds.
    ask my wife.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom



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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    LOL,,


    Slander, and "Fighting Words" and outright lies are not protected speech.
    Is that what AJ did?

  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Is that what AJ did?
    Seems So.

    Probably should not insult the parents of Dead Children loudly in public. (aside from being rude)
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  20. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Seems So.

    Probably should not insult the parents of Dead Children loudly in public. (aside from being rude)
    I agree.

    I can't support Nick Sandmann and then say the families of Sandy Hook don't have a case against Jones.
    "Truly, whoever can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I agree.

    I can't support Nick Sandmann and then say the families of Sandy Hook don't have a case against Jones.
    I thought when the Sandman situation took place the reports from the start were the HS kids instigated the situation. It only took a few minutes or a second video to see that the black Israelites and or the indian drummer were instigators. The Sandy Hook incident had many anomalies that were not apparent at the beginning. Sandman scenario could have been easily proven before anything was aired.

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