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Thread: A Fraud or a Fighter? Just Who Is Alex Jones? A Review of “Alex’s War”

  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    https://www.quora.com/How-much-ammun...soldiers-carry

    From an infantryman who toured in Iraq and self-describes as ammo-crazed (to the point of being willing to carry ammo rather than water): "more than 12 magazines is just burdensome" --(Jason Huskie, Combat Veteran of two wars and 7+ years of service with combat units. 2002-2009, 8 Years military service, 1 tour of service Route Clearance. Author has 409 answers and 1.7M answer views)

    But hey, we have random-Internet-person here who thinks it "doesn't look ... unrealistic" and we should definitely put more weight on random-Internet-person's opinion because he talks all skeptical and stuff...
    There is probably a difference between being in a war and possibly walking miles and miles with gear you don't need to bring and walking across a parking lot with some things.



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  3. #62
    Economist: Alex Jones, his company worth up to $270 million

    https://www.news4jax.com/news/national/2022/08/05/economist-alex-jones-his-company-worth-up-to-270-million/

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    There is probably a difference between being in a war and possibly walking miles and miles with gear you don't need to bring and walking across a parking lot with some things.
    Indeed.

    And also a difference between "a burden" and "unrealistic."

    When I was a youngster in the Boy Scouts I went on a high adventure canoe camping trip at about 5-foot tall and 90 lbs., and on our portages I had to carry either a 90-lb. canoe or a 90-lb. backpack. For me at that time, to call that a burden would be an understatement. Admittedly, I could barely do either. But Lanza was a 150-lb., 5'9", 20 year old, carrying what I'm pretty sure was much less weight than that.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Economist: Alex Jones, his company worth up to $270 million

    https://www.news4jax.com/news/nation...o-270-million/
    I say if a person wants to make that kind of valuation, he should be obligated to buy it and pay AJ the difference.



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  7. #65
    Economist Reveals Alex Jones' Net Worth, Yearly Revenue

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  8. #66
    Plaintiffs’ Lawyer Urges Jury to Wipe Out Alex Jones’ Livelihood

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  9. #67
    Welp, one concrete benefit of this headline is that it's revealing who the three-letter shills are...
    Psalm 35:7-10, Psalm 109

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Whatever else he is, you can add serial perjurer to his description. https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/03/media...ial/index.html
    Quote Originally Posted by WisconsinLiberty View Post
    BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Alex Jones Responds to $4.2 Million Sandy Hook Verdict
    https://www.infowars.com/posts/break...-hook-verdict/

    Sorry, but infowars is 100x more credible than CNN.

    Anybody who wants to actually listen to the other side of the story, instead of just believing the fake news, there are some good videos there.
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  11. #69
    Jury Declares Alex Jones Must Pay $4.1 Million to Parents of Sandy Hook Victim


    The New American
    August 5, 2022


    On Thursday, an Austin, Texas, jury found that talk-radio host and founder of Infowars Alex Jones must pay at least $4.1 million in compensatory damages to the parents of a child who was slain in the Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting, which occurred in December of 2012. Jones was accused of spreading conspiracy theories that the shooting was a hoax.

    The jury vote on the damages was 10 – 2.

    As of now, Jones will need to pay Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis, the now-divorced parents of six-year-old Jesse Lewis, who was slain in the attack, at least $4.1 million in compensatory damages. Heslin and Lewis both testified that followers of Jones harassed them and even sent death threats as a result of Jones’ reporting on the issue.

    The $4.1 million may just be the start of the payments, as Heslin and Lewis are now seeking punitive damages against Jones. The jury is hearing presentations by both sides on Friday to determine Jones’ net worth.

    Any punitive damages awarded by the jury could be vastly more than the compensatory damages.

    “If jurors’ motivation for an award is their anger at the defendant, then they often award a bigger punitive damage number,” said trial consultant Jill Huntley Taylor.

    Attorneys for Heslin and Lewis claim that Jones is worth nearly $270 million.

    Last week, Jones’ company, Free Speech Systems LLC, declared bankruptcy. Jones explained on Monday that the bankruptcy declaration will allow his Infowars show to remain on the air while it appeals the court decision.

    During testimony earlier this week, Jones acknowledged that the Sandy Hook school shooting was “100 percent” real and apologized to Heslin and Lewis.

    “I unintentionally took part in things that did hurt these people’s feelings,” Jones told the court. “and I’m sorry for that.”

    Jones’ attorney, Federico Reynal, admitted that Jones may have acted “irresponsibly” regarding the Sandy Hook tragedy but that did not make the talk show host responsible for any harassment Heslin and Lewis may have faced.

    An apology clearly wasn’t enough for the parents: “Alex started this fight,” Heslin said, “and I’ll finish this fight.”

    The verdict was welcome news to the attorneys for Heslin and Lewis.

    “We are very pleased with the verdict, and we are looking forward to the punitive damages phase that starts tomorrow,” said Kyle Farrar, one of the attorneys for the parents.

    During closing arguments on Wednesday, Farrar urged jurors to “end this nightmare.”

    “Speech is free, but you have to pay for your lies,” Farrar said. The attorney explained that Jones was responsible for years of harassment the plaintiffs experienced.

    “He made them live their lives in fear, fear of being harmed or murdered by people who follow the lies,” Farrar said in court.

    Reynal, of course, had a different take.

    “Unfortunately, in a free society, there is risk associated with choice,” Reynal said. “We live in a community where some people just are unbounded and are going to take action.”

    Earlier in the week, controversy occurred when it was found that the contents of Jones’ cellphone, which included what attorneys for Heslin and Lewis called “intimate” messages between Jones and former Trump advisor Roger Stone, were “inadvertently” sent to the legal team representing the parents.

    Judge Maya Guerra Gamble, who has seemed somewhat adversarial toward Jones throughout the trial, denied a request for a mistrial based on the mistake. Gamble also admonished Jones on Tuesday, claiming he had not been honest about his company’s declaration of bankruptcy the previous week.

    Many on the Left are doing a victory lap over Jones’ predicament. Far-left group Occupy Democrats is pushing not only for Jones to be left penniless by the trial, but also that he be imprisoned.

    “Alex Jones melts down over his ‘damn’ attorneys accidentally sending his secret ‘raw text messages’ to the opposing counsel, calling it ‘incredibly sick’ — clearly worried that he’ll now be prosecuted and sent to jail for perjury. RT TO DEMAND THAT HE BE LOCKED UP!” the far-left group tweeted.

    But Jones is not without supporters. Representative Marjorie Taylor Green (R-Ga.) lauded Jones for an answer he gave when asked about government officials aiding pedophilia, sex trafficking, and the grooming of young children.





    “You mean like Jeffrey Epstein did with the Clintons?” Jones answered.

    With answers such as this, Jones doesn’t appear to be someone who will simply take his punishment and go quietly into the night.

    But for any appeals going forward, Jones may want to think about getting new attorneys — the ones who spoke in front of this judge and jury didn’t do him any favors.
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  12. #70
    HOLY CRAP the Left cannot meme... I mean, Alex Jones is one of the most meme-able people on the planet, certainly in the top-5 all-time most memeable people... and the Left just cannot meme, look at this idiocy:



    This makes my face melt off. It's like watching a corporate boardroom trying to dance to dubsteb. It should be illegal for Leftists to meme, this must be harming the environment somehow... what is wrong with these people?!
    Psalm 35:7-10, Psalm 109

  13. #71
    Alex Jones' Errors Are No Different Than MSM Misreports on Sandy Hook: Defense Attorney

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  14. #72
    Alex Jones ordered to pay $45.2 million in punitive damages in defamation trial

    https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/alex-jones-ordered-to-pay-45-2-million-in-punitive-damages-in-defamation-trial-145593925838



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    I'm reporting what happened in court. The fact is that due to Jones's continually disobeying court orders a default judgment was rendered against him in the Texas case. See the discussion at http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...es#post7062886

    It's obvious you know nothing about how the discovery process is designed to work. If you are ever involved in a lawsuit in which the opposing party essentially gives you and the judge a massive finger and refuses to adhere to the rules I think you'd have a different perspective and would insist that your opponent be sanctioned. And if your opponent bitched about a kangaroo court after being sanctioned you'd know he was a fool.

    Incidentally, the same thing happened to Jones in the Connecticut suit -- another default judgment for disobeying coutrt orders in connection with discovery.
    So you are okay with people being sued for saying something? Because that is the long and short of this. The first amendment protects unpopular speech. This whole thing is a sham. Today it is Alex Jones, tomorrow it's you and I. This all sets a bad precedence, regardless.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by WisconsinLiberty View Post
    Economist Reveals Alex Jones' Net Worth, Yearly Revenue

    Psalm 35:7-10, Psalm 109

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    So you are okay with people being sued for saying something? Because that is the long and short of this. The first amendment protects unpopular speech. This whole thing is a sham. Today it is Alex Jones, tomorrow it's you and I. This all sets a bad precedence, regardless.
    The bad precedence is there will be no precedence. Judges, AG, Prosecutors, are openly discriminating justice.

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    I don't get it what is the joke?

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Pfizer doesn't seem interested in supporting freelance journalists, for some odd reason.
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    With MSM it seems the news is an advertisement in disguise.
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Pfizer sponsors cnn.
    And CBS, ABC, et cetera ad nauseam ...

    https://twitter.com/PearsonSharp/sta...31706613231616

  21. #78
    Lawyers Asks Jury To DESTROY Alex Jones Company, Jones Ordered To Pay 45M w/Tucker Max

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  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    I don't get it what is the joke?
    Kangaroo court.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    I don't get it what is the joke?
    You wouldn't.

    You should be ashamed to use the names in your screen-name. You aren't worthy of any of those names. But your overly-long screen-name sure does screw up the HTML rendering on the New Posts page. Purely an accident, of course...
    Psalm 35:7-10, Psalm 109



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Pfizer sponsors cnn. I think being sponsored by big pharma is light-years more offensive than being sponsored by big dick. I notice those who ALWAYS point out the harmless dick pills never mention pharma, the MIC, etc buying out the MSM. I wonder why that is?
    Well, I wasn't gonna name any names here, but I remember the_Count loved to point out that my pillow guy was a grifter, meanwhile big Pharma and MIC grift billions and billions into their wallets. Never mind that though, I guess?

    Like Mike Lindell is trying to make a quick buck and . . . everyone else isn't?

    Like if I was keeping tabs on who is funding who, a guy who makes bedroom slippers and towels wouldn't be anywhere near the top of that list.

    We know the best advertisers that ever approach someone who wants to expose the truth are gonna be your B-list -type ads. Vitamins, survival food, and pillows. You ain't getting Coca Cola to run an ad on your channel, sorry.
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    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
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  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    So you are okay with people being sued for saying something? Because that is the long and short of this. The first amendment protects unpopular speech. This whole thing is a sham. Today it is Alex Jones, tomorrow it's you and I. This all sets a bad precedence, regardless.
    When I heard Alex Jones lost, I literally thought of you and logged onto this website. I hope those parents sue people like you next. You do zero research and accuse people of murdering/trafficing their children. You mindlessly share fake news and never leave your house.

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    When I heard Alex Jones lost, I literally thought of you and logged onto this website. I hope those parents sue people like you next. You do zero research and accuse people of murdering/trafficing their children. You mindlessly share fake news and never leave your house.
    Do you think the outcome of this case is reasonable ?
    "I am a bird"

  28. #84
    Yes, if my kids were murdered and I was hounded by morons, I would hope to make even more money. I'd probably disagree with myself if I hadn't put up with annoying libertarians for so long.

  29. #85
    Some of the stuff AJ puts out is good advice. Like don't drink the tap water in areas where the frogs are gay
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    When I heard Alex Jones lost, I literally thought of you and logged onto this website. I hope those parents sue people like you next. You do zero research and accuse people of murdering/trafficing their children. You mindlessly share fake news and never leave your house.
    “First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out,
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out,
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out,
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.”

    ― Martin Niemöller

    Nothing new under the sun.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  31. #87
    [QUOTE=fr33;7125734]Yes, if my kids were murdered and I was hounded by morons, I would hope to make even more money. I'd probably disagree with myself if I hadn't put up with annoying libertarians for so long.[/QUOTE

    decent thoughts

  32. #88
    Was 9/11 an inside job? Kennedy assassination? COVID pandemic? If someone has a platform and disagrees or questions a mainstream narrative, should they be sued? Saying I do not believe this shooting took place and here is why look at these crisis actors here and here and over again...Isn't that an opinion? The vaccine works! Take the shot and you won't get COVID.



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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    So you are okay with people being sued for saying something? Because that is the long and short of this. The first amendment protects unpopular speech. This whole thing is a sham. Today it is Alex Jones, tomorrow it's you and I. This all sets a bad precedence, regardless.
    If Jones wanted to raise a First Amendment issue, he could have. Instead, his continual disobedience of court orders resulted in the judge's rendering a default judgment against him, which means he lost any ability to defend the case on the merits. So if you want to blame someone for this case setting a bad precedent, blame Jones.
    (The case doesn't really set a precedent, except for narcissistic fools who would repeat Jones's obstructive tactics).

    People who knowingly say things that are false and that result in harm to other people get sued all the time. It's called defamation and/or intentional infliction of emotional distress, and it isn't protected by the First Amendment.
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  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Do you think the outcome of this case is reasonable ?
    The punitive damages should have been higher.
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
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