[SATIRE] Trump to demolish IRS

[mrsat_98]

https://realrawnews.com/2022/07/trump-to-abolish-irs/


When President Donald J. Trump makes an official return to office, he will sign an Executive Order abolishing an institution that has fleeced hard-working American citizens since its inception in 1862. That organization is, of course, the Internal Revenue Service. Archaic and dysfunctional, the IRS, which Donald Trump has called “the deepest depths of the Deep State,” has defrauded working citizens of incalculable sum


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[acptulsa]

LOLOL

[PAF]

“It’s been years in design and he’s not giving the Deep State a heads up,” a source said

Damn, the cat got let out of the bag.

[kahless]

https://realrawnews.com/2022/07/trump-to-abolish-irs/

When President Donald J. Trump makes an official return to office, he will sign an Executive Order abolishing an institution that has fleeced hard-working American citizens since its inception in 1862. That organization is, of course, the Internal Revenue Service. Archaic and dysfunctional, the IRS, which Donald Trump has called “the deepest depths of the Deep State,” has defrauded working citizens of incalculable sum

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Trump to abolish IRS, LOL, funny stuff. At first I could not tell if it was a satire site like the Onion or just a fake news site but found this in the About disclaimer "This website contains humor, parody, and satire. "

[TheTexan]

If nothing else, this thread can be taken as proof that Trump supporters are more right-leaning than the average R.

[PAF]

Trump to abolish IRS, LOL, funny stuff. At first I could not tell if it was a satire site like the Onion or just a fake news site but found this in the About disclaimer "This website contains humor, parody, and satire. "

Yes but wait…

Swordy, got any inside info?

[acptulsa]

If nothing else, this thread can be taken as proof that Trump supporters are more right-leaning than the average R.

But is there a hurricane gale strong enough to make Trump lean the same direction?

[PAF]

If nothing else, this thread can be taken as proof that Trump supporters are more right-leaning than the average R.

And then Trump gets back in, spends another gazillion bucks [funding philanthropists even], and then they go “damn”.

[TheTexan]

But is there a hurricane Gale strong enough to make Trump lean the same direction?

Nope

[jkr]

long as they stop charging me rent for breathing ill be happy
fkem

[Krugminator2]

Getting rid of the IRS will never happen so it is moot.

If it were, I never understood the logic behind abolishing the IRS. Nothing is free. If people don't pay the taxes that are owed it just shifts the burden to everyone else in the form of slower growth and/or inflation.

If you want smaller government (which is presumably what people here would want), it would make more sense to raise taxes on the middle class, who pay a disproportionately low rate, and do things to enforce tax collection. Making people feel the direct consequences of their acceptance of spending is the first way to stop it.

This paper from 2006 explains this. https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdo...=rep1&type=pdf

Even Peter Schiff get this to an extent.

[nobody's_hero]

Getting rid of the IRS will never happen so it is moot.

If it were, I never understood the logic behind abolishing the IRS. Nothing is free. If people don't pay the taxes that are owed it just shifts the burden to everyone else in the form of slower growth and/or inflation.

If you want smaller government (which is presumably what people here would want), it would make more sense to raise taxes on the middle class, who pay a disproportionately low rate, and do things to enforce tax collection. Making people feel the direct consequences of their acceptance of spending is the first way to stop it.

This paper from 2006 explains this. https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdo...=rep1&type=pdf

Even Peter Schiff get this to an extent.

It would make sense if not for the apportionment from the states being essentially done away with. We funded our federal government without the IRS for a long time before it existed. (Of course, the scope of the Federal government was much more limited in accordance with the Constitution until then). The states wrote the check though. They got the money from the people but the buck stopped with the states.

I do agree though that abolishing the IRS is nigh impossible. First you'd have to get rid of the bureaucrats that fuel and perpetuate the 'need' for it and they're pretty much permanent fixtures in D.C.

[Marenco]

[paleocon1]

https://realrawnews.com/2022/07/trump-to-abolish-irs/


When President Donald J. Trump makes an official return to office, he will sign an Executive Order abolishing an institution that has fleeced hard-working American citizens since its inception in 1862. That organization is, of course, the Internal Revenue Service. Archaic and dysfunctional, the IRS, which Donald Trump has called “the deepest depths of the Deep State,” has defrauded working citizens of incalculable sum


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The site is fakenews......even the guys name tells you that

[oyarde]

Getting rid of the IRS will never happen so it is moot.

If it were, I never understood the logic behind abolishing the IRS. Nothing is free. If people don't pay the taxes that are owed it just shifts the burden to everyone else in the form of slower growth and/or inflation.

If you want smaller government (which is presumably what people here would want), it would make more sense to raise taxes on the middle class, who pay a disproportionately low rate, and do things to enforce tax collection. Making people feel the direct consequences of their acceptance of spending is the first way to stop it.

This paper from 2006 explains this. https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdo...=rep1&type=pdf

Even Peter Schiff get this to an extent.

I'm all for spending cuts . Since that isnt going to happen I'm perfectly OK with elimnating the enforcement arm but I'd say you are right there is no chance.

[Todd]

He had 4 years to even attempt to try to make a hole to start to “drain the swamp”. Why would I think he’s going to do something that extraordinary. The only thing he can drain is his lizard. Enough of the Trump 24 crud.

[Brian4Liberty]

Getting rid of the IRS will never happen so it is moot.

If it were, I never understood the logic behind abolishing the IRS. Nothing is free. If people don't pay the taxes that are owed it just shifts the burden to everyone else in the form of slower growth and/or inflation.

If you want smaller government (which is presumably what people here would want), it would make more sense to raise taxes on the middle class, who pay a disproportionately low rate, and do things to enforce tax collection. Making people feel the direct consequences of their acceptance of spending is the first way to stop it.

This paper from 2006 explains this. https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdo...=rep1&type=pdf

Even Peter Schiff get this to an extent.

Yeah, that's what we need. More and higher taxes, and better enforcement. More IRS agents to monitor every transaction to ensure full compliance.

[kahless]

I see Schiff still believes in the myth that trickle down economics has been a historical success.

[acptulsa]

Yeah, that's what we need. More and higher taxes, and better enforcement. More IRS agents to monitor every transaction to ensure full compliance.

And levy the taxes on an endangered species which is struggling, in order to force them to change their voting habits, while sparing the rich, who actually own the elected bastards.

Just perfect

[Krugminator2]

I see Schiff still believes in the myth that trickle down economics has been a historical success.

1. There is no such thing as trickle down economics, at least not advocated by any economist that I know of. The whole idea of trickle down where more money is left in people's hands to spend and invest is a fundamentally Keynesian idea.

2. Supply side policies that reduce disincentives like flatter taxes and reduced regulations have been a massive success over the last few decades. See Hong Kong, Singapore, Switzerland, Ireland, and even the US in the decades after Reagan cut taxes as great examples.

3. The first part of what Schiff said is about the supply side and he is correct. The US has the most steeply progressive tax system in the world. Taxes should be flattened dramatically. The second part of what he is saying is about inflation reduction. If left wingers are going to claim tax cuts on upper income earners don't stimulate demand because rich people will just save, then the reverse also has to be true using their logic. When you have too much demand like right now then tax hikes on the rich will not pull much demand out of the economy because it won't change spending much. And raising taxes makes sense because people who vote for spending should bear the burden of that spending and not shift it someone else.

[Krugminator2]

And levy the taxes on an endangered species which is struggling, in order to force them to change their voting habits, while sparing the rich, who actually own the elected bastards.

Just perfect

Nothing is free. Spending is the tax. Someone has to pay.

Inflation is a hidden tax where most people don't understand the cause and effect. Levying direct taxes is a more honest way to fund government and people will start to feel the cause and effect of their votes. People think they are getting a dollar of government for 50 cents. Right now there is not enough pain associated with government spending. It is needs to be cranked up on most people.

[acptulsa]

Right now there is not enough pain associated with government spending. It is needs to be cranked up on most people.

There's plenty of pain. The problem is, when the government blames Putin, way too many people are willing to believe it. This same government that covers its ass by peddling that crap certainly isn't going to borrow less just because people are paying more. They'll just spend more. And if suckers will believe Putin is devaluing their currency, they'll believe Putin is somehow raising their taxes.

And people accuse libertarians of having unrealistic notions about government.

[acptulsa]

What we really need is a sales tax on politicians. If you can afford to make a campaign contribution, you can afford an extra 500% for the treasury.

Several states made weed legal so they could tax it. Now that they made bribery legal...

[Anti Globalist]

I'm confused. Wasn't Trump president for four years? Isn't this something he should have done between 2017-2021?

[Swordsmyth]

https://realrawnews.com/2022/07/trump-to-abolish-irs/


When President Donald J. Trump makes an official return to office, he will sign an Executive Order abolishing an institution that has fleeced hard-working American citizens since its inception in 1862. That organization is, of course, the Internal Revenue Service. Archaic and dysfunctional, the IRS, which Donald Trump has called “the deepest depths of the Deep State,” has defrauded working citizens of incalculable sum


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I hate to rain on your parade, but RRN is a satire site.

I hope this comes true but don't take it as real at this point.

[mtr1979]

I'm confused. Wasn't Trump president for four years? Isn't this something he should have done between 2017-2021?

Sure Trump had four years, but "this is all part of the plan." Trump is on another level he is playing 4d chess. Anyone who disagrees with him is just a hater or someone with a low IQ that can not understand what he is doing.

[Marenco]

I'm confused. Wasn't Trump president for four years? Isn't this something he should have done between 2017-2021?

You just gotta give the man a second chance

[Sonny Tufts]

I'm confused. Wasn't Trump president for four years? Isn't this something he should have done between 2017-2021?

The folks who believe Trump could, via an executive order, have abolished an agency created by Congress are probably the same ones who thought Pence could unilaterally throw out certified electors.

[69360]

The only thing Trump is going to demolish is a few McDonalds cheeseburges by the pool at Mar a Lago.

[Swordsmyth]

The folks who believe Trump could, via an executive order, have abolished an agency created by Congress are probably the same ones who thought Pence could unilaterally throw out certified electors.

Pence could have returned them to the states for investigation and delayed certification.
Trump could not do this or most of the things libertarians demand of him.