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    Red wave becoming a blue Tsunami

    This week polling has turned sharply against republicans. The generic ballot is even now and many polls have a dem edge. 3 obvious reasons for this. Trump wont keep his yap shut thus energizing democrats. If he announces his presidential run before the midterms dems will keep the house and have 54 senate seats. Reps have nominated some atrocious candidates. In race after race they are choosing the most likely candidate to lose to the dem. Finally, the reps have no message. All they are doing is trying to ride Biden's unpopularity and its failing.

    2 pieces of legislation are killing reps. Giving billions in aid to Ukraine and throwing away 250 billion to the chip industry.

    My prediction for Nov has changed
    54 dem senators
    220 house dems.



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    My prediction is that Republicans will win back the House but Democrats will keep the Senate.
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    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    My prediction is that Republicans will win back the House but Democrats will keep the Senate.
    Yea, the senate is clearly gone now. OZ is a joke and Walker in GA is making gaffe after gaffe. Some polls now have the dem winning in solid red Ohio. The house is also in play for dems now. I like Trump but i wish he had some kind of medical condition that would keep him from running.

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    Fallout from Roe.

    Expected.

    That and freedom is not popular.

    Marxist revolution is.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 07-28-2022 at 06:12 PM.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Fallout from Roe.

    Expected.
    I think thats the least important factor. Thats actually subsiding. MacConnell and McCarthy arent doing anything to help things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenpaul View Post
    I like Trump but i wish he had some kind of medical condition that would keep him from running.
    What’s to like about the New York Lib:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-On-The-Record

    When the people start looking at records, and holding them fully accountable, then maybe there might be a slight chance of actually winning - aside from winning just an election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Fallout from Roe.

    Expected.

    That and freedom is not popular.

    Marxist revolution is.
    Outside the restaurant I saw Biden and other leftist crap stickers all over some car. I stand in line waiting to get seated, listening to a few folks talk politics. I’ve been trying not to engage anymore knowing this country is toast, but when they started talking about the right to abortion I couldn’t bite my tongue anymore. I said a few things, politely of course (I just wanted to be seated and eat), and then they told me if I don’t like this country I could just leave. The same pathetic line I got from R’s not too long ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    What’s to like about the New York Lib:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-On-The-Record

    When the people start looking at records, and holding them fully accountable, then maybe there might be a slight chance of actually winning - aside from winning just an election.
    He might have been a NY lib, but he was far better than any republican since Reagan



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    Quote Originally Posted by helenpaul View Post
    He might have been a NY lib, but he was far better than any republican since Reagan
    Don’t even get me started, Helen. Read the Record.

    On second thought, keep believing that load of crap. The sooner this country implodes the better. I can’t stand procrastination.

    Today “republicans” are yesterdays Commies.
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    AF is correct , marxist revolution is popular with the retard public.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    AF is correct , marxist revolution is popular with the retard public.
    While at the same time, the “other” side Funds the Enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helenpaul View Post
    He might have been a NY lib, but he was far better than any republican since Reagan
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Don’t even get me started, Helen. Read the Record.

    On second thought, keep believing that load of crap. The sooner this country implodes the better. I can’t stand procrastination.

    Today “republicans” are yesterdays Commies.
    I think the intent was, better than any Republican president since Reagan. In other words, two Bushes.

    It's a point. It's also damning the clown with mighty faint praise. But it's a point.

    ETA. But then, the Kennedy Killer may have given Hussein permission to invade Iraq, then invaded in retaliation, but he didn't give Big Pharma trillions to develop a poison for us.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 07-28-2022 at 06:55 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Electing Hershecl Walker is going to backfire. The republicans are really dumb but the economy is still bad. This can't be good for dems

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I think the intent was, better than any Republican president since Reagan. In other words, two Bushes.

    It's a point. It's also damning the clown with mighty faint praise. But it's a point.
    Yes, he was far better than either Bush. The problem now is he is picking fights with too many republicans. We should have Georgia locked up. History alone says reps would do very well in Nov. Trump, however, cant keep himself out of everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenpaul View Post
    Yes, he was far better than either Bush. The problem now is he is picking fights with too many republicans. We should have Georgia locked up. History alone says reps would do very well in Nov. Trump, however, cant keep himself out of everything.
    A few points:

    1. Red flag laws, take ‘em first due process later, extended 702 another 6 years.

    2. Never, ever, talked about the Fed, sound money, the incredible massive debt. To the contrary, he outspent every president in the history of the world. Fact.

    3. Never, ever, Fund the Enemy [Bill Gates], and put his stooges in charge.

    4. Never, ever, start a new Federal Agency, Operation Warp Speed.

    5. Never, ever, start the ball rolling, Nationalized Healthcare, which OWS did.

    6. Trump never vetoed bills, the costliest bills which dwarfed Obummer’s.

    Bush’s were rotten to the core, there’s no dispute there at all. But what Trump did was play Pied Piper, and “republicans” fell and followed him hook line and sinker.

    He’s a GD New York Lib, who ran with an R after his name. The people [R’s] got exactly what they deserved, and then Biden got in and continued his policies, one of which was rolling out OWS. On the tax payer dime.

    Trump amassed more debt than every president in the history of the U.S. of A.
    Last edited by PAF; 07-28-2022 at 07:12 PM.
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    Personally I never thought there was a chance dems lose senate , pubs will have to go all in on house. SC desision on roe- wade makes no difference that I can see. Anyone with basic logic sould understand tat does not come under federal jurisdiction.
    Do something Danke



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That and freedom is not popular.

    Marxist revolution is.
    Give me their megaphone and I will make poking yourself in the eye with a sharp stick popular.

    Freedom is automatically popular. That's why they have to absorb somewhere around 80-90% of the real productive capacity of the populace so they can use those resources to fight gravity itself. It is all a house of cards. One puff of wind is all that is needed, and it all comes down in an instant...
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

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    LOL

    This is just the media doing their usual push polls to justify the coming cheat.
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    Major Pollster Increases Republican’s Predicted Midterm Advantage — Abortion Ruling Not Moving the Needle for Dems

    https://dailycaller.com/2022/07/28/a...voters-sabato/
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    This is just the media doing their usual push polls to justify the coming cheat.
    That is actually my first thought when I see polls that show dems having a chance, much less leading. Just padding the polls a bit to make the planned outcome more logical.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    That is actually my first thought when I see polls that show dems having a chance, much less leading. Just padding the polls a bit to make the planned outcome more logical.
    Coming down to the last quarter before the election. They will use all their levers to manipulate the climate of opinion. There is no recession. Gas prices are falling faster than ever. Republicans are fighting the "Inflation Reduction Act". Housing prices are falling.

    This is all an attempt to use their propaganda arms to make people think that everyone else thinks that things are getting better and the Dems are responsible. If they can keep you from talking to your neighbors, then all the better. Because once you think that everyone else thinks differently than you do, the election results will make sense to you - even if you don't like them.

    The only defense to this is to keep talking. Think local and be vocal! Propaganda doesn't work when people know that other people aren't buying it either. And it'll make people more attuned to election shenanigans and make this year's steal even harder.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    It's as the OP put it: the GOP is simply counting on Biden's unpopularity to win instead of doing a double pronged attack. They are incredibly stupid and have been for decades.

    One thing I know right now is that whenever I vote it won't be a for a Democrat and I will be voting for the furthest right/most liberty oriented names on the ballots.

    And libertarians trying to be cool and saying "I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils" or one of its many variations refuse to provide adequate options outside of that. And no, joining the LP and "educating" people ain't cutting it in case you haven't seen.

    People have underestimated the number of Democrats in this country. They dominate literally every large city. They won't be turned for anything and I've seen every single one say they will proudly vote for Biden over Trump again in 24 if those are the tickets.
    Welcome to the R3VOLUTION!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    It's as the OP put it: the GOP is simply counting on Biden's unpopularity to win instead of doing a double pronged attack. They are incredibly stupid and have been for decades.

    One thing I know right now is that whenever I vote it won't be a for a Democrat and I will be voting for the furthest right/most liberty oriented names on the ballots.

    And libertarians trying to be cool and saying "I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils" or one of its many variations refuse to provide adequate options outside of that. And no, joining the LP and "educating" people ain't cutting it in case you haven't seen.

    People have underestimated the number of Democrats in this country. They dominate literally every large city. They won't be turned for anything and I've seen every single one say they will proudly vote for Biden over Trump again in 24 if those are the tickets.
    I hear alot about how bad Biden is from reps but i hear nothing about how they will make things better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenpaul View Post
    I hear alot about how bad Biden is from reps but i hear nothing about how they will make things better.
    They don't even have enough sense to promise to get government out of the way and let us make things better.

    It might be a lie, but that never stopped them before.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    They don't even have enough sense to promise to get government out of the way and let us make things better.

    It might be a lie, but that never stopped them before.
    Very true. They voted for a chip industry giveaway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    They don't even have enough sense to promise to get government out of the way and let us make things better.

    It might be a lie, but that never stopped them before.
    I'm not much of a fan of Republicans, but I do hope they can manage to take both houses. I'm more of an "anti-incumbent" than anything else - getting elected and re-elected are the only things politicians really care about. So, if they can pay a price for their betrayals of the American public then maybe that'll send a message to the next round of sleazy politicians.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    People can try to deny all they want but the truth right now, in this moment in time, is the GOP holds more people and views like ours than the Democrats.
    The Democrats are going full leftist with control of culture (media, entertainment, etc.) and we're seeing the societal decay because of this.

    I'll go stand with some MAGA dorks over Antifa/BLM/Socialist/AOC/LGBTQXYZ Mafia types 8 days out 7. I may be holding my nose while standing there, but you understand the greater point by now.
    Welcome to the R3VOLUTION!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post
    It's as the OP put it: the GOP is simply counting on Biden's unpopularity to win instead of doing a double pronged attack. They are incredibly stupid and have been for decades.

    One thing I know right now is that whenever I vote it won't be a for a Democrat and I will be voting for the furthest right/most liberty oriented names on the ballots.

    And libertarians trying to be cool and saying "I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils" or one of its many variations refuse to provide adequate options outside of that. And no, joining the LP and "educating" people ain't cutting it in case you haven't seen.

    People have underestimated the number of Democrats in this country. They dominate literally every large city. They won't be turned for anything and I've seen every single one say they will proudly vote for Biden over Trump again in 24 if those are the tickets.
    I think they underestimate the cheating, but it amounts to the same thing in the end.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Rasmussen Poll: Republicans Lead on Generic Congressional Ballot Shrinks to 5 Points

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...s-to-5-points/

    JACOB BLISS 29 Jul 2022

    Republicans lead Democrats on the generic congressional ballot by five points, five points lower than the previous week, on a Rasmussen Reports poll released Friday.

    While the Republicans look to retake control of Congress in the 2022 midterm elections — which are only 102 days away — after being in the minority for roughly four years, the most recent Rasmussen Reports survey showed that 46 percent of likely U.S. voters would elect a Republican, compared to the 41 percent who said they would vote for the Democrat.

    Thus the Republicans only have a five-piont lead, five less then the previous week when they were up by ten pionts. Five percent said they would vote for another candidate, and the other nine percent said they were unsure.

    The Republicans’ five-point lead shows that the party has lost a growing momentum in the polls. However, while there is under four months left until the election, there is still time for the generic ballot to move either way before November. But the Republicans have led the generic ballot all year.

    Rasmussen had previously noted that in July 2018 — before the Democrats took the House for the first time in eight years — they had a seven-point advantage on the generic congressional ballot. Their advantage was slighly up from June 2018 when they held a four-point advantage on the generic congressional ballot, 45 percent to 41 percent.

    But, as the 2018 November midterm election neared, the margins between the Democrats and Republicans became extremely close — Republicans had 46 percent to 45 percent for Democrats.

    In this poll, the Republican Party has a ten point advantage with independents over the Democrats. Among voters not affiliated with either major party, 41 percent said they would vote for the GOP candidate, while only 31 percent said they would vote for the Democrat candidate.

    Additionally, 21 percent of black voters and 42 percent of other minority groups said they would vote for the Republican candidate if the election were held today.

    For Democrats, 60 percent of black voters and 39 percent of other minority groups said they would vote for them. Compared to last week, Democrats have lost one percent of black voters.

    Furthermore, there is a difference in voter intensity between the parties, with 85 percent of Republican voters saying they would vote for their own party’s congressional candidate and only 80 percent of Democrats saying the same thing.

    The Rasmussen Reports survey was conducted from July 24 to 28 and questioned 2,500 likely U.S. voters. The survey had a two percent margin of error and a 95 percent confidence level.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    This is just the media doing their usual push polls to justify the coming cheat.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Major Pollster Increases Republican’s Predicted Midterm Advantage — Abortion Ruling Not Moving the Needle for Dems


    https://dailycaller.com/2022/07/28/a...voters-sabato/
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Rasmussen Poll: Republicans Lead on Generic Congressional Ballot Shrinks to 5 Points

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...s-to-5-points/

    JACOB BLISS 29 Jul 2022

    Republicans lead Democrats on the generic congressional ballot by five points, five points lower than the previous week, on a Rasmussen Reports poll released Friday.

    While the Republicans look to retake control of Congress in the 2022 midterm elections — which are only 102 days away — after being in the minority for roughly four years, the most recent Rasmussen Reports survey showed that 46 percent of likely U.S. voters would elect a Republican, compared to the 41 percent who said they would vote for the Democrat.

    Thus the Republicans only have a five-piont lead, five less then the previous week when they were up by ten pionts. Five percent said they would vote for another candidate, and the other nine percent said they were unsure.

    The Republicans’ five-point lead shows that the party has lost a growing momentum in the polls. However, while there is under four months left until the election, there is still time for the generic ballot to move either way before November. But the Republicans have led the generic ballot all year.

    Rasmussen had previously noted that in July 2018 — before the Democrats took the House for the first time in eight years — they had a seven-point advantage on the generic congressional ballot. Their advantage was slighly up from June 2018 when they held a four-point advantage on the generic congressional ballot, 45 percent to 41 percent.

    But, as the 2018 November midterm election neared, the margins between the Democrats and Republicans became extremely close — Republicans had 46 percent to 45 percent for Democrats.

    In this poll, the Republican Party has a ten point advantage with independents over the Democrats. Among voters not affiliated with either major party, 41 percent said they would vote for the GOP candidate, while only 31 percent said they would vote for the Democrat candidate.

    Additionally, 21 percent of black voters and 42 percent of other minority groups said they would vote for the Republican candidate if the election were held today.

    For Democrats, 60 percent of black voters and 39 percent of other minority groups said they would vote for them. Compared to last week, Democrats have lost one percent of black voters.

    Furthermore, there is a difference in voter intensity between the parties, with 85 percent of Republican voters saying they would vote for their own party’s congressional candidate and only 80 percent of Democrats saying the same thing.

    The Rasmussen Reports survey was conducted from July 24 to 28 and questioned 2,500 likely U.S. voters. The survey had a two percent margin of error and a 95 percent confidence level.
    ...
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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