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    REPUBLICAN HAWKS BACK PELOSI

    TOM COTTON, BEN SASSE, JOHN CORNYN, MIKE POMPEO, MARK ESPER, NEWT GINGRICH...

    https://news.antiwar.com/2022/07/26/...-visit-taiwan/


    The Pentagon - making a bad idea even worse.........

    "The U.S. military is prepared for every contingency and would increase its movement of forces and assets in the Indo-Pacific region.
    Officials told The Associated Press that fighter jets, ships, surveillance assets and other military systems would likely be used to provide overlapping rings of protection for her flight to Taiwan and any time on the ground there."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...rt/ar-AA101Mkf
    "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ... Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - J.F.K.



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    I think Pelosi should go to Taiwan too.

    It's the plan to fly her back here later that I have a problem with.
    "Pity we didn't nominate Rand Paul--a man who actually has the Alpha Cojones to put his life on the line, but unfortunately lacks the bad taste necessary to brag about them."-- acptulsa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    TOM COTTON, BEN SASSE, JOHN CORNYN, MIKE POMPEO, MARK ESPER, NEWT GINGRICH...

    https://news.antiwar.com/2022/07/26/...-visit-taiwan/


    The Pentagon - making a bad idea even worse.........

    "The U.S. military is prepared for every contingency and would increase its movement of forces and assets in the Indo-Pacific region.
    Officials told The Associated Press that fighter jets, ships, surveillance assets and other military systems would likely be used to provide overlapping rings of protection for her flight to Taiwan and any time on the ground there."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...rt/ar-AA101Mkf

    From the article:

    China views Pelosi’s travel plans as a major provocation because she is a high-level US government official, who is even in line for the presidency if something happens to the president and vice president, and it would signal Washington is abandoning the one-China policy.

    I'm sorry. Call me a "hawk" but the so called "one-China policy" is BS and always has been. Taiwan (actually Formosa) was NEVER a part of China. It's no more a part of China than Japan is a part of China. When Mao kicked Chiang Kai Shek's butt, Chiang and his army fled to Formosa, took it over, brutalized the native Formosans and renamed the island "Taiwan." If the people who consider themselves "ethnic Chinese" want to go back to the mainland, they should be allowed to do so. But China shouldn't take Taiwan just because Chiang took it first. That said....none of my business. Japan and the other countries in the region need to step up their own military spending to counter balance China.

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I think Pelosi should go to Taiwan too.

    It's the plan to fly her back here later that I have a problem with.
    LOL
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    When are warhawks within the GOP not backing Pelosi?
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    How about we just give Pelosi to the Chinese and they agree to keep Walmart stocked up for say a year? Everyone wins.

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    It would be fitting for hot WWIII to kick off because some drunken old senile hag got offed.

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    Mitch McConnell backs Pelosi

    The delegation with military and naval escort is expanding to include Republicans.

    At a GOP press conference on Tuesday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said it was more important for the U.S. to ensure that Taiwan had the adequate weapons systems to deter or defend against a Chinese attack.
    He then added: "If she doesn't go now, she's handed China...a victory of sorts."

    https://www.newsweek.com/republican-...-china-1728693

    McConnell's wife is the Taiwanese billionaire heiress, and Trump's Secretary of Transportation, Elaine Chao.
    "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ... Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - J.F.K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Mitch McConnell backs Pelosi

    The delegation with military and naval escort is expanding to include Republicans.

    At a GOP press conference on Tuesday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said it was more important for the U.S. to ensure that Taiwan had the adequate weapons systems to deter or defend against a Chinese attack.
    He then added: "If she doesn't go now, she's handed China...a victory of sorts."

    https://www.newsweek.com/republican-...-china-1728693

    McConnell's wife is the Taiwanese billionaire heiress, and Trump's Secretary of Transportation, Elaine Chao.
    China is going to win eventually. They are going to just wait it out for a moment of weakness and take Taiwan back. Short of starting a world war there is not much that can be done about it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    It would be fitting for hot WWIII to kick off because some drunken old senile hag got offed.
    I'd rather have Pelosi die in a way that doesn't kick off the end of the world.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    "Pity we didn't nominate Rand Paul--a man who actually has the Alpha Cojones to put his life on the line, but unfortunately lacks the bad taste necessary to brag about them."-- acptulsa

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    "Pity we didn't nominate Rand Paul--a man who actually has the Alpha Cojones to put his life on the line, but unfortunately lacks the bad taste necessary to brag about them."-- acptulsa

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    BUT WHY does Pelosi have this overwhelming NEED to visit Taiwan and really WHY does China care enough to threaten War?????

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    Trump was right to call Taiwan by its name. There should be no restriction on her traveling to Taiwan. They are a free country and make a lot of the components that go into cars. She has every right to be there. This is an unreasonable request from China and it should not be heeded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleocon1 View Post
    BUT WHY does Pelosi have this overwhelming NEED to visit Taiwan and really WHY does China care enough to threaten War?????

    https://bioclandestine.substack.com/
    Better question, why are we selling China oil and then acting like we're opposed to them?

    'I hate you so much . . . .I wanna give you a deal on some oil that belongs to American taxpayers. We go to war though I'm gonna need it back.'
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 07-31-2022 at 05:12 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    CNN is reporting she is going. I wonder if the Chinese will shoot her plane down? It's not like the US is in a position to do much about it if they do.

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/pelo...reports-2022-8

    She is "expected" to land in Taipei at an undisclosed time tomorrow evening local time
    that is tomorrow morning EST.
    "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ... Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - J.F.K.



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    Seem like the White House faction doesn't want Pelosi to go and is trying to distance the WH from her trip. But she is flying on a US military plane. If the WH really wanted to avoid an incident they should make the witch fly commercial. China isn't going to shoot down a commercial flight to get Pelosi. Or maybe she could just ride her broomstick?

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    "Pity we didn't nominate Rand Paul--a man who actually has the Alpha Cojones to put his life on the line, but unfortunately lacks the bad taste necessary to brag about them."-- acptulsa

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    She’s in Taiwan...
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    After she leaves

    China will do something big
    "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ... Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - J.F.K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    They are a free country and make a lot of the components that go into cars.
    That depends on who you ask. The US does not even recognise Taiwan as a country...
    "I am a bird"

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    That depends on who you ask. The US does not even recognise Taiwan as a country...
    This may be a dumb question on my part, but what practical difference does it make if the US recognizes some land as its own country or not?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    It was a put on for political gain. Pelosi and Biden al-Zwahiri b.s. double scoop of positive media

    these things are all pre-orchestrated.
    Last edited by Snowball; 08-02-2022 at 03:06 PM.
    "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy ... Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - J.F.K.

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    I was hoping the Chinese would eliminate our Pelosi problem for us. It's not like the US was in any sort of postion to do a thing about it. Instead they are just going to fly some planes and shoot off a few test missles.



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  29. #25
    Looks like some in Taiwan aren't taking her visit too kindly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    It was a put on for political gain. Pelosi and Biden al-Zwahiri b.s. double scoop of positive media

    these things are all pre-orchestrated.
    The possibility occurred to me that this could have been orchestrated with China. Pelosi and friends went to their Chinese partners and said “we need to do something for domestic consumption. Pelosi will go to Taiwan, you guys threaten, we both get to look tough.”
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marenco View Post
    Looks like some in Taiwan aren't taking her visit too kindly


    Lol. Love it. “Witch!”

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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The possibility occurred to me that this could have been orchestrated with China. Pelosi and friends went to their Chinese partners and said “we need to do something for domestic consumption. Pelosi will go to Taiwan, you guys threaten, we both get to look tough.”
    Except their response so far has been rather weak. They launched some missles in the ocean and flew over an imaginary line.



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