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    Airline Staffing Shortages

    Why are flights being cancelled? Experts say it's down to airlines' inability to plan amid a tight labor market

    It's not a surprise if you're feeling nervous about flying at the moment. The list of global airlines to have canceled flights over the last few months reads like a departure board.

    Delta, Lufthansa, British Airways, Southwest, EasyJet, Alaska, and JetBlue are among the long list of carriers to have all culled flights in by the hundreds. The result has been long queues at airports, lost luggage, long layovers, and acute disappointment.

    There are multiple reasons fueling the disruptions from bad weather to the economic impact of the war in Ukraine, but labor shortages have been cited as a common reason.

    Insider spoke to two aviation consultants and a union boss about why the industry is struggling with staff shortages.
    ...
    Like many industries, staff shortages were a long-running problem before the pandemic but the pandemic made it much worse as airlines were forced to furlough or let go of workers in their thousands.
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    In general, industry leaders have "been too optimistic about the preparedness of people they've let go to come back," said Mike Clancy, general secretary of the Prospect union, which represents air traffic controllers, licensed technical engineers, and air traffic systems specialists in the UK.

    "At the present minute, if you are working in an airport environment, it's even more stressful than normal. Because the traveling public are not happy," Clancy said.
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    More: https://www.businessinsider.com/airl...market-2022-6#
    Every day, the news talks about flight cancellations and labor shortages, yet the elephant in the room is never addressed. Airline management, along with government, created this problem with vaccine mandates and subsequent firing of unvaccinated employees. They created this problem, but will never admit it. Itís like it never happened, thrown down the memory hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Why are flights being cancelled? Experts say it's down to airlines' inability to plan amid a tight labor market

    Every day, the news talks about flight cancellations and labor shortages, yet the elephant in the room is never addressed. Airline management, along with government, created this problem with vaccine mandates and subsequent firing of unvaccinated employees. They created this problem, but will never admit it. Itís like it never happened, thrown down the memory hole.
    It's definitely part of the story. Simple Flying paints the overall picture as at United Airlines (for instance) having 87,400 employees on its books as of March 31, 2022, which was a net loss of 6,000 workers compared to March 31, 2019 ... and In Sep2021 Barrons reported that "United Is Firing Just 320 Employees Who Refused to Get a Covid Shot".

    I think the biggest problem is that Boomers and Gen X'ers took the retirement packages offered to them during the pandemic shutdown and left the workforce.
    Here at RPF, we don't promote every conspiracy theory - merely the ones we've been made aware of. If there's anything that Ron Paul followers know, it's that bad things don't just happen; bad things require dark and insidious forces acting in concert and in secret to make them happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    It's definitely part of the story. Simple Flying paints the overall picture as at United Airlines (for instance) having 87,400 employees on its books as of March 31, 2022, which was a net loss of 6,000 workers compared to March 31, 2019 ... and In Sep2021 Barrons reported that "United Is Firing Just 320 Employees Who Refused to Get a Covid Shot".

    I think the biggest problem is that Boomers and Gen X'ers took the retirement packages offered to them during the pandemic shutdown and left the workforce.
    No doubt many took packages if they were offered, and some were simply laid off. But were they more likely to take the packages because of incoming vaccine mandates?
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    We have the same issue here and it's simply because of low pay.
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    Almost every airline offered buyouts to senior captains down to as young as 58.

    And they did it with your money and, presumably, the direction/approval of our "leaders".

    This is turning out just as planned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Why are flights being cancelled? Experts say it's down to airlines' inability to plan amid a tight labor market



    Every day, the news talks about flight cancellations and labor shortages, yet the elephant in the room is never addressed. Airline management, along with government, created this problem with vaccine mandates and subsequent firing of unvaccinated employees. They created this problem, but will never admit it. It’s like it never happened, thrown down the memory hole.
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    from 4/30/20
    "Nearly 39,000 American Airlines workers are taking early retirement, voluntary leave or reduced hours in the coming months as the company looks to temporarily shrink with demand for travel way down.
    Among those are 4,500 early retirements, the company said.
    CEO Doug Parker. “We will almost certainly, irrespective of demand, go into the fall with more team members than we have work for."

    https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2020/04/30/39000-american-airlines-workers-take-early-retirement-leave-or-reduced-hours-in-face-of-covid-19-pandemic/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Why are flights being cancelled? Experts say it's down to airlines' inability to plan amid a tight labor market



    Every day, the news talks about flight cancellations and labor shortages, yet the elephant in the room is never addressed. Airline management, along with government, created this problem with vaccine mandates and subsequent firing of unvaccinated employees. They created this problem, but will never admit it. It’s like it never happened, thrown down the memory hole.
    Same with the railroads, led by BNSF. Purposely creating worker shortages so they can go to Congress and cry, "We only want to pay a crew of one to run this huge, complex vehicle!"
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    I'm sure vaccine mandates played a key role in these staffing shortages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Good video. I hadnít seen that. All I had seen was the news reports about the cancellations with never a word about Covid or vaccinations. My hypothesis is just based on remembering what actually happened. Not sure which ďconspiracy theoriesĒ they have heard.

    Like Dore and the other guy said, it's like inflation. ďGee, who could have seen this comingĒ?
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    They donít want the underclasses being mobile anymore. Combine this with the electrification of everything and you will stay close to your slave quarters.

    The Science told them in their cryptic models that we would all die if they donít do what The Science tells them to do through their cryptic models.

    Donít forget about the insurance dude tipping everyone off on the 40% death claims jump for 19-49 year old working people. Where did the workers go? It looks like a bunch of them went to the big widget factory in the sky.

    Thereís a technocratic death cult running the show.
    Last edited by Slave Mentality; 07-06-2022 at 03:08 PM.

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    The big airlines left would be $#@!ty companies to work for and there would be no job security because they could go under easily. Once everyone figured that out they probabbly look elsewhere for work. I doubt there is a fix for labor shortages for them .I dont give them my money and encourage others not to. The way I see it the sooner they go under the more likely there would be a replacement that put the customer as a priority.
    Last edited by oyarde; 07-06-2022 at 06:29 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    The big airlines left would be $#@!ty companies to work for and there would be no job security because they could go under easily. Once everyone figured that out they probabbly look elsewhere for work. I doubt there is a fix for labor shortages for them .I dont give them my money and encourage others not to. Te way I see it the sooner they go under the more likely there would be a replacement that put the customer as a priority.
    As a former airline employee, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I'm sure vaccine mandates played a key role in these staffing shortages.
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    I'm a commercial pilot. I left politics a few years ago to become a commercial pilot for many reasons. Less stress, pays better, more fun, healthier lifestyle etc. I've had a couple of detours but things are on track now for me.

    Interestingly another guy from the 2012 RP Campaign called me wanting to know about it so I gave him the run down. I think he is going to start flight school in a few months.

    If anyone is thinking about making the jump, let me know, I have been through recently it and have a TON of resources available to anyone interested.
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    San Diego to start process of firing employees who refuse COVID vaccines and tests

    San Diego city employees, who refuse to be vaccinated and tested for COVID-19 because they say both violate their religion, are now at risk of being sacked.

    The city confirmed that Advance Notice of Termination letters have been issued for at least three dozen employees, half of them in the San Diego Police Department.

    KPBS obtained the letter templates through a Public Records Act. The letters, which are sent by the employee’s supervisor, state in part: “This is to notify you that I am recommending to the Department Director that your employment with the City of San Diego as a (Employee’s Position) in the (Department Name) Department (add Division Name, if applicable) be terminated.”
    Why are cops leaving the San Diego Police Department? City sees biggest exodus since 2009

    ...
    In fiscal year 2022, which ended in July, more than 230 San Diego police officers left the department — a 52% increase compared with the previous year. It’s the highest separation total the department has seen in more than a decade, police officials say. The department has lost patrol officers and detectives, seasoned homicide investigators, collision reconstruction experts, SWAT officers, K-9 handlers, training officers and police helicopter pilots.
    ...
    Between July 2021 and early March, 168 officers had left the department. In the next three months, the department would lose another 65.

    Police union leaders have blamed the city’s vaccine mandate for the steep rise in departures...
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    City Hall offers to rehire 600 unvaccinated NYC workers if they get shots this month

    Get a jab and get your job back.

    That’s the offer Mayor Adams’ administration is floating to hundreds of former city government workers who were fired earlier this year over their refusal to get vaccinated against the coronavirus.

    Roughly 600 ex-municipal employees received letters from the city over the weekend informing them that they can be rehired if they get the first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine by June 30, a spokesman for Adams confirmed Monday.
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    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...o7i-story.html
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    Massachusetts State Police troopers fired for refusing COVID-19 vaccine lose license to carry firearms

    FRAMINGHAM, Mass. —
    Several former members of the Massachusetts State Police who were terminated in April after refusing the state's COVID-19 vaccine mandate have now also lost their license to carry firearms.

    "As they are no longer employed by the department it is not appropriate for them to continue to hold a license to carry issued by the Colonel as a necessary function of their prior employment," state police spokesman Dave Procopio wrote in an email.

    Eleven Massachusetts State Troopers and one sergeant were fired in April over their refusal to get vaccinated.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    How many employees have hospitals lost to vaccine mandates?

    The past several months have seen thousands of hospitals announce COVID-19 vaccination requirements for staff and clinicians as a condition of employment.

    Although controversial, the policies picked up steam when Pfizer and BioNTech’s Comirnaty received a full regulatory approval. Mandate announcements really kicked into gear when the Biden administration made workforce vaccination a requirement for Medicare and Medicaid participation — a legally contentious decision that was ultimately upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.
    ...
    ...some executives and industry figures have warned that mandates might place provider organizations in a bind as disgruntled employees choose to walk away rather than comply.

    “As a practical matter, this policy may result in exacerbating the severe workforce shortage problems that currently exist,” American Hospital Association President and CEO Rick Pollack said in a Sept. 9 statement.
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    Nick Kupper, an Air Force Master Sergeant who was expelled for refusing the COVID vax, tells Tucker Carlson about his experience

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    The clot shot mandates were just one part of the whole, that made me make my decision.

    For 25 years I have worked in the filed of offshore oil Exploration and Production.

    I have a narrow and highly specialized skill set that takes years of training and documentation to acquire.

    I will not contribute one single minute more of my time and labor and skill, to benefit people, a nation and government, who hate me, hate what I do and wish to put me in prison, for providing the lifeblood of modern civilization in a safe, clean and efficient manner.

    Freeze and starve assenholes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    I'm a commercial pilot. I left politics a few years ago to become a commercial pilot for many reasons. Less stress, pays better, more fun, healthier lifestyle etc. I've had a couple of detours but things are on track now for me.

    Interestingly another guy from the 2012 RP Campaign called me wanting to know about it so I gave him the run down. I think he is going to start flight school in a few months.

    If anyone is thinking about making the jump, let me know, I have been through recently it and have a TON of resources available to anyone interested.
    Let me know if you run into Kristina Basham. I would like an autographed photo.
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