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  1. #1

    Trump stiffing contractors

    The list is long & real

    Amazing he got elected President after not paying so many people for so long

    Just heard from a friend that his company got stiffed a significant proportion on their contracting part for old Post Office DC



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  3. #2
    Rich people are notorious for not paying contractors who do work for them.

  4. #3
    DJT is next level & has done it for decades

  5. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    DJT is next level & has done it for decades
    Good.

    If a contractor doesnt do the job properly they deserve to get stiffed.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Good.

    If a contractor doesnt do the job properly they deserve to get stiffed.
    It’s theft on Trumps part

    I’ve heard it first Person from multiple sources

    The excuses peps make for this guy are ridinkulous

  7. #6
    I presume you reviewed all of the contracts in your "list"?
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  8. #7
    Keep the excuses flowing

  9. #8
    For the record I voted for him twice.

    Heard the stiffing contractor stories over & over & somehow dismissed it all

    Heard a new one today, never heard for DC Post office (from lifelong friend)

    Here’s article with some details of AC days

    https://www.northjersey.com/story/ne...ty/4547037002/



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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    It’s theft on Trumps part

    I’ve heard it first Person from multiple sources

    The excuses peps make for this guy are ridinkulous
    You do realize, don't you, that it's basically impossible to take any complaints about Trump seriously because all the TDS people have cried wolf on this type of $#@! so many times that their word counts for nothing.

    "But this time we mean it seriously like omg this is real this time"
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  12. #10
    Good excuse TX, keep em coming.

  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Good excuse TX, keep em coming.
    Here's another:

    He's a goddamn real estate billionaire, not every one of his many thousands of contractors is gonna end up happy
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  14. #12
    He’s a crook & systematically cheats contractors

    Probably has exact $$$ number he doesn’t go over. Guessing it’s not more than $500K

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    He’s a crook & systematically cheats contractors

    Probably has exact $$$ number he doesn’t go over. Guessing it’s not more than $500K
    Keep the whines coming , convincing argument btw
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I presume you reviewed all of the contracts in your "list"?

    It's like the "evidence" at the Jan 6th hearings. A lot of hearsay
    ...

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Keep the whines coming , convincing argument btw
    Ha..Never Stiffed me. Real contractor should get even or beat the $#@! out of man who cheats him out of hard earned $$$

    Good news for Don is he now has SS to hide behind

  18. #16
    From quora user David Stroud
    -------
    Since Donald J Trump has stiffed so many contractors, why do contractors continue to bid for his contracts?
    You won’t like this answer.

    I have many years of experience in managing the large contracts and subcontracts of the type that are often brought up in connection with The Donald. I have also done business in the NewYork/NewJersey/Connecticut “tri-state” area, and this whole world is an unreal den of thieves.

    General Contractors (like Trump’s organization) hire subcontractors on a “lowest bid” basis, and the subcontractors invariably bid the jobs at a loss. They do this in order to get the job, and their strategy from the beginning is to make themselves whole with claims, some of which are completely bogus and all of which are grossly inflated. Everybody knows this. Claims are typically settled at 40–50c on the dollar, and the subcontractors complain, but in the end they are satisfied.

    Also, because many subcontractors work on job sites simultaneously, there is always a chance that one contractor will interfere with others - either with a mistake or not - and the general contractor has to compensate the impacted subcontractor because THAT claim is legitimate. They then try to back charge the impacting subcontractor (i.e., deduct the claim from their payment), which leads to complaints that “We didn’t get paid!”

    They keep coming back, job after job, because they are making money, and the claims, non-payment, and back charges are all part of the game that they all willingly play.

    Other parts of the country are generally much saner than the Tri-State area, but New York is the worst. It’s not Trump’s fault; he has just learned how to thrive in this cutthroat environment.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Donald Trump / Trump Jr 2024!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    It's like the "evidence" at the Jan 6th hearings. A lot of hearsay
    Trump stiffed the Jan. 6th protesters.
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  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Trump stiffed the Jan. 6th protesters.
    True.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

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  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    From quora user David Stroud
    -------
    Since Donald J Trump has stiffed so many contractors, why do contractors continue to bid for his contracts?
    You won’t like this answer.

    I have many years of experience in managing the large contracts and subcontracts of the type that are often brought up in connection with The Donald. I have also done business in the NewYork/NewJersey/Connecticut “tri-state” area, and this whole world is an unreal den of thieves.

    General Contractors (like Trump’s organization) hire subcontractors on a “lowest bid” basis, and the subcontractors invariably bid the jobs at a loss. They do this in order to get the job, and their strategy from the beginning is to make themselves whole with claims, some of which are completely bogus and all of which are grossly inflated. Everybody knows this. Claims are typically settled at 40–50c on the dollar, and the subcontractors complain, but in the end they are satisfied.

    Also, because many subcontractors work on job sites simultaneously, there is always a chance that one contractor will interfere with others - either with a mistake or not - and the general contractor has to compensate the impacted subcontractor because THAT claim is legitimate. They then try to back charge the impacting subcontractor (i.e., deduct the claim from their payment), which leads to complaints that “We didn’t get paid!”

    They keep coming back, job after job, because they are making money, and the claims, non-payment, and back charges are all part of the game that they all willingly play.

    Other parts of the country are generally much saner than the Tri-State area, but New York is the worst. It’s not Trump’s fault; he has just learned how to thrive in this cutthroat environment.

    Doing business in New York:

    ...

  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Trump stiffed the Jan. 6th protesters.
    That's not hearsay. I saw that with my own eyes.
    ...

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Doing business in New York:

    lol +rep
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Trump Jr 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Doing business in New York:

    Well played

  26. #23
    I read a book called Trumped about 15 or so years ago. The guy who wrote it ran one of Trump's Atlantic City casinos while Ivana ran the other one. Trump already had two casinos in one city. Then decided to open a third called the Taj Mahal which was supposed to be the biggest casino in the world. It made no sense to have three casinos in competition with each other but Trump was always just a reckless gambler with other people's money.

    Trump was so overleveraged and didn't have the money for the Taj Mahal so he just deferred payment to the people who built it then stiffed them when the job was done. Then the casinos went bankrupt so the people never got paid.

    Edit: This article basically says what I just said. https://www.northjersey.com/story/ne...ty/4547037002/

    n Atlantic City, Trump bragged that the Taj Mahal — which he claimed had a price tag of $1.2 billion — was the “eighth wonder of the world.” Not only was it considered the largest casino anywhere, it was adorned with crystal chandeliers from Austria, hand-sewn carpets from Britain, Carrara marble from Italy and 70 onion domes that towered over the Atlantic City boardwalk.
    But the Taj, as it came to be called, was built on financial sand.

    What Trump didn't say was that he financed the Taj with junk bonds. And what he did not tell the scores of contractors who worked on the overly lavish casino was that he could not pay their bills.
    Triad Building Specialties ended up taking out a $40,000 loan just to pay its suppliers. And then the firm needed another decade just to pay off the loan. In the end, Triad received only 40 cents on the dollar from Trump for its work on the Taj, said Jenkins, now 49 and the firm’s co-owner.


    “If it was just us, you could understand, but this has been a pattern over his entire career,” Jenkins said. “He’s owned so many failed or fraudulent companies over the years. It’s staggering to me."
    Trump, who once bragged that he was the “King of Debt,” owed $70 million to 253 contractors who worked on the Taj and who, in turn, hired thousands of workers.


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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    For the record I voted for him twice.

    Heard the stiffing contractor stories over & over & somehow dismissed it all

    Heard a new one today, never heard for DC Post office (from lifelong friend)

    Here’s article with some details of AC days

    https://www.northjersey.com/story/ne...ty/4547037002/
    So you didn't believe the fake news for over 6 years, then one day you did. Cool story, bro.
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  30. #26
    Fake news excuse....Dude got a lot of mileage out of that

    Guy systematically stiffs contractors

    That’s real.


    Most of us HATE the other side so much we can justify Trumps deficiencies/crimes etc etc
    Last edited by vita3; 06-27-2022 at 02:56 AM.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Fake news excuse....Dude got a lot of mileage out of that

    Guy systematically stiffs contractors

    That’s real.


    Most of us HATE the other side so much we can justify Trumps deficiencies/crimes etc etc
    I haven't seen any evidence of this and certainly none has been presented here.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Trump Jr 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I haven't seen any evidence of this and certainly none has been presented here.

    Donny is such a stand up guy, HE was CHEATED out of $$$ from all these whiny contractors

    What a gr8 American!!!!

  33. #29
    Well, sniffing contractors is better than sniffing little kids.

    EDIT: Oh, wait. "stiffing", not "sniffing". Never mind.

    EDIT #2: On second thought, I take it back. Stiffing contractors is better than sniffing little kids, too (or stiffing them, for that matter).
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  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Well, sniffing contractors is better than sniffing little kids.

    EDIT: Oh, wait. "stiffing", not "sniffing". Never mind.

    EDIT #2: On second thought, I take it back. Stiffing contractors is better than sniffing little kids, too (or stiffing them, for that matter).
    I'm pretty sure ol Creepy Joe has stiffed as many as he's sniffed.
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