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    I just don't know... [Granholm]

    You know, I've always held that our oppressors are not stupid, that they know exactly what they are doing and why.

    But, and assuming this woman is telling the truth, if she truly means that, then she is as dumb as a bag of hammers, and has no business at all regulating energy policy and she should be terminated from her position immediately



    Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm: ‘I Just Don’t Know’ What Oil Companies Need to Boost Gas Production

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...as-production/

    CHARLIE SPIERING 23 Jun 2022

    President Joe Biden’s energy secretary, Jennifer Granholm, expressed ignorance ahead of a high-profile meeting with executives, stating she does not know what oil companies need to produce more gasoline.

    “It’s not about funding, but perhaps there is something that they need — some additional help with identifying a supply chain issue,” Granholm told reporters during the daily briefing at the White House on Wednesday. “We — I just don’t know. So we’ll see.”

    Granholm, who is in charge of America’s energy, is expected to meet with oil company CEOs on Thursday, weeks after gas prices rose to new record highs.

    She tried to extend positive feelings about the upcoming meeting, despite spending her entire career as energy secretary condemning fossil fuels.

    “This is an honest, earnest conversation tomorrow asking how can we be partners in providing relief for people at the pump,” she said.

    Granholm’s tone was different from Biden’s stern letter to oil companies last week in which he threatened to use his emergency war powers if they do not produce more gasoline.

    Oil company executives have already expressed publicly what they need from the administration to help produce more oil and gas.

    The American Petroleum Institute issued a list of ten policies that the Biden administration could act on if they were serious about increasing the production of fuel.

    In a statement last week, ExxonMobil also listed a series of actions the Biden administration could do to promote gas production.

    The statement read:

    In the short term, the U.S. government could enact measures often used in emergencies following hurricanes or other supply disruptions — such as waivers of Jones Act provisions and some fuel specifications to increase supplies. Longer term, government can promote investment through clear and consistent policy that supports U.S. resource development, such as regular and predictable lease sales, as well as streamlined regulatory approval and support for infrastructure such as pipelines.

    In a letter published Tuesday, Chevron CEO Mike Wirth criticized Biden and his administration for being more willing to “criticize, and at times vilify, our industry.”

    “We need clarity and consistency on policy matters ranging from leases and permits on federal lands to the ability to permit and build critical infrastructure, to the proper role of regulation that considers both costs and benefits,” he wrote.

    Biden responded by mocking executives’ concerns.

    “I didn’t know they’d get their feelings hurt that quickly,” he said Tuesday, calling Wirth and other CEOs “mildly sensitive” for their response.

    Biden said Sunday he will not meet with the oil industry executives, asserting he has administration officials to take the lead.

    Instead, he demanded that gas stations start lowering prices.

    “These are not normal times. Bring down the price you are charging at the pump to reflect the cost you are paying for the product,” Biden said in a speech Wednesday. “Do it now. Do it today.”
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    Don't have time to make a meme but here you go:

    Enlightenment Level 1: The clown-"elites" are morons
    Enlightenment Level 2: The clown-"elites" are intelligent, but highly skilled at pretending to be morons
    Enlightenment Level 3: The clown-"elites" are morons who use whatever intelligence they have to destroy themselves and everyone around them
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    My guess is she is not stupid and knows exactly what she is doing. She is an evil despicable woman that wants to kill the oil industry for good.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 06-23-2022 at 09:03 AM.
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    As a former Michigan resident I can tell you she is that stupid. She is known in the state as Grancvnt. Their puppet masters might know exactly what they're doing, but these public figures are exactly the same useful idiots that Lenin described.

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    Most of the people in government don't get jobs based on what they know, only on who they know.
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    This is getting silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Don't have time to make a meme but here you go:

    Enlightenment Level 1: The clown-"elites" are morons
    Enlightenment Level 2: The clown-"elites" are intelligent, but highly skilled at pretending to be morons
    Enlightenment Level 3: The clown-"elites" are morons who use whatever intelligence they have to destroy themselves and everyone around them
    Yea none of these people are geniuses. Maybe like 2% of them actually know what they are doing. Almost all of them are just useful idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You know, I've always held that our oppressors are not stupid, that they know exactly what they are doing and why.

    But, and assuming this woman is telling the truth, if she truly means that, then she is as dumb as a bag of hammers, and has no business at all regulating energy policy and she should be terminated from her position immediately



    Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm: ‘I Just Don’t Know’ What Oil Companies Need to Boost Gas Production

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...as-production/

    CHARLIE SPIERING 23 Jun 2022

    President Joe Biden’s energy secretary, Jennifer Granholm, expressed ignorance ahead of a high-profile meeting with executives, stating she does not know what oil companies need to produce more gasoline.

    “It’s not about funding, but perhaps there is something that they need — some additional help with identifying a supply chain issue,” Granholm told reporters during the daily briefing at the White House on Wednesday. “We — I just don’t know. So we’ll see.”

    Granholm, who is in charge of America’s energy, is expected to meet with oil company CEOs on Thursday, weeks after gas prices rose to new record highs.

    She tried to extend positive feelings about the upcoming meeting, despite spending her entire career as energy secretary condemning fossil fuels.

    “This is an honest, earnest conversation tomorrow asking how can we be partners in providing relief for people at the pump,” she said.

    Granholm’s tone was different from Biden’s stern letter to oil companies last week in which he threatened to use his emergency war powers if they do not produce more gasoline.

    Oil company executives have already expressed publicly what they need from the administration to help produce more oil and gas.

    The American Petroleum Institute issued a list of ten policies that the Biden administration could act on if they were serious about increasing the production of fuel.

    In a statement last week, ExxonMobil also listed a series of actions the Biden administration could do to promote gas production.

    The statement read:

    In the short term, the U.S. government could enact measures often used in emergencies following hurricanes or other supply disruptions — such as waivers of Jones Act provisions and some fuel specifications to increase supplies. Longer term, government can promote investment through clear and consistent policy that supports U.S. resource development, such as regular and predictable lease sales, as well as streamlined regulatory approval and support for infrastructure such as pipelines.

    In a letter published Tuesday, Chevron CEO Mike Wirth criticized Biden and his administration for being more willing to “criticize, and at times vilify, our industry.”

    “We need clarity and consistency on policy matters ranging from leases and permits on federal lands to the ability to permit and build critical infrastructure, to the proper role of regulation that considers both costs and benefits,” he wrote.

    Biden responded by mocking executives’ concerns.

    “I didn’t know they’d get their feelings hurt that quickly,” he said Tuesday, calling Wirth and other CEOs “mildly sensitive” for their response.

    Biden said Sunday he will not meet with the oil industry executives, asserting he has administration officials to take the lead.

    Instead, he demanded that gas stations start lowering prices.

    “These are not normal times. Bring down the price you are charging at the pump to reflect the cost you are paying for the product,” Biden said in a speech Wednesday. “Do it now. Do it today.”
    She's not stupid. Pay attention to the part I put in bold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    She's not stupid. Pay attention to the part I put in bold.
    Perhaps she is both...stupid and evil...bad combination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You know, I've always held that our oppressors are not stupid, that they know exactly what they are doing and why.

    But, and assuming this woman is telling the truth, if she truly means that, then she is as dumb as a bag of hammers, and has no business at all regulating energy policy and she should be terminated from her position immediately
    ...
    Some are evil. Crony corporatists looking for power and money along with their elite friends.

    Many are just group-think sheep, who get their "ideas" from others. Those may have good intentions, but are too ignorant or stupid to understand or comprehend complex systems and long term ramifications.

    In a letter published Tuesday, Chevron CEO Mike Wirth criticized Biden and his administration for being more willing to “criticize, and at times vilify, our industry.”
    On the other hand, only a brainwashed parrot from other schools of thought would believe or infer that these crony corporatists from the oil industry are benevolent, altruistic angels. They have always had a seat at the Davos, WEF, globalist elitist tables. The oil industry helped build those "tables".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Perhaps she is both...stupid and evil...bad combination.
    Oh I think she's ignorant on the question of how to bring more oil production online. But I think she doesn't care to know. I would be like putting Jerry Farwell Jr. over the committee for Planned Parenting Funding. Cross purposes. This is what I found about this ladies background.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Granholm
    After graduating from Harvard Law School, Granholm clerked for Judge Damon Keith, a senior judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, from 1987 to 1988.[7] She also worked for the Michael Dukakis 1988 presidential campaign.[7] After working as an attorney in the Wayne County executive office from 1989 to 1991,[7] Granholm became an assistant U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan in 1991.[7][15] She helped to prosecute drug dealers, gang members and child pornographers, sued the state and fought against credit card fraud.[7] Of the 154 people Granholm tried, 151 were convicted.[7] In 1995, she was appointed as Corporation Counsel for Wayne County, the youngest person to hold the position.[15] Granholm defended the county against lawsuits, sued the state over road taxes, and fought to uphold environmental laws.[7]
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You know, I've always held that our oppressors are not stupid, that they know exactly what they are doing and why.
    Have you considered the possibility that they are both "stupid" (in just the sense that you mean) and that they "know exactly what they are doing and why"?

    Ayn Rand absolutely nailed it when it came to portraying these people and their basic nature. If you are familiar with Atlas Shrugged, just compare the bits from the OP article I've quoted below to the parts in Atlas Shrugged where President Thompson, et al. threaten a captive John Galt and demand that he "do something" to fix things for them (because they presume that he knows how, and they know that they don't) - and especially recall the emphasis Rand placed on the sly, "getting away with it" nature of Galt's captors. Just as it is here in the real world, their "stupid" consists of their fundamental belief that they can and should give greater precedence to their wishes and desires than to reality - and their "know exactly what they are doing and why" consists of their (not unwarranted) confidence that they can foist the consequences of their defiance of reality onto others who will submit and comply.

    Rand's portrayal of this dynamic was, of course, more blunt, dramatic and stylized, but that is essentially what is going on here. (The primary difference, unfortunately, is that Big Oil executives partake much more of Orren Boyle than they do of Hank Rearden).

    President Joe Biden’s energy secretary, Jennifer Granholm, expressed ignorance ahead of a high-profile meeting with executives, stating she does not know what oil companies need to produce more gasoline.

    “It’s not about funding, but perhaps there is something that they need — some additional help with identifying a supply chain issue,” Granholm told reporters during the daily briefing at the White House on Wednesday. “We — I just don’t know. So we’ll see.”

    [...]

    “This is an honest, earnest conversation [...] asking how can we be partners in providing relief for people [...],” she said.
    That last line could be pasted directly into the things President Thompson and his cronies said to John Galt, and it would be a seamlessly perfect fit

    (The proper answer to that question, by the way - and the one Galt in effect gave to his supplicant-captors - is: "You can't be 'partners' because you have nothing of value to contribute to any 'partnership'. You are nothing but parasitic, mooching obstacles. You should just get the hell out of the way.")

    [Biden] threatened to use his emergency war powers if they do not produce more gasoline.

    [...]

    [Biden] demanded that gas stations start lowering prices.

    These are not normal times. Bring down the price you are charging at the pump to reflect the cost you are paying for the product,” Biden said in a speech Wednesday. “Do it now. Do it today.
    All of the underlined bits (and the attitude that informs them) dovetails absolutely perfectly with the reaction of Thompson and his gang to Galt's refusal to "save" them by submitting to and complying with their wishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    On the other hand, only a brainwashed parrot from other schools of thought would believe or infer that these crony corporatists from the oil industry are benevolent, altruistic angels. They have always had a seat at the Davos, WEF, globalist elitist tables. The oil industry helped build those "tables".
    Notice, for example, how they frame things, not in terms of limiting or curtailing government interference in the market, but rather in terms of government proactively "enacting emergency measures" and "promoting investment" on their behalf:

    In a statement last week, ExxonMobil also listed a series of actions the Biden administration could do to promote gas production.

    The statement read:

    In the short term, the U.S. government could enact measures often used in emergencies following hurricanes or other supply disruptions — such as waivers of Jones Act provisions and some fuel specifications to increase supplies. Longer term, government can promote investment through clear and consistent policy that supports U.S. resource development, such as regular and predictable lease sales, as well as streamlined regulatory approval and support for infrastructure such as pipelines.
    Also note how they advocate "streamlin[ing] regulatory approval" for themselves, rather than just reducing or eliminating regulations. That's because "streamlining" regulations will grease the skids for the already-existing big players, but if regulations were actually reduced or eliminated, then any new competitors would be less likely to be barred from entering the market, and existing marginal competitors would be less likely to be driven out of it.

    LIke John Galt, they ought to be telling the government to "get the hell out of our way". But of course, that's just not gonna happen. There is simply too much money and market power to be had by "being partners [with the government]" (to echo Granholm's words from the OP article).

    Ayn Rand was pretty much exactly right about a lot of things (see above in this post for just one example), but she really did whiff the ball sometimes, too - and her biggest facepalmer of all has to be her defense of "big business" as "Amerca's most persecuted minority". LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Have you considered the possibility that they are both "stupid" (in just the sense that you mean) and that they "know exactly what they are doing and why"?
    Everything he said.

    Yes, I've considered it and came to the exact same conclusion.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Occam's Banana again.
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    I think its because they've subscribed to what amounts to a religion of Marxist values.

    They are incapable of processing any "facts" that conflict with their religion.

    Stupid/Genius are both susceptible to falling prey to this religion.

    Their various churches have reinforced these beliefs to a point now they are completely disconnected from reality.
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    You think a cabinet official actually has experience in the department they lead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    You think a cabinet official actually has experience in the department they lead?
    Well, it's not even about experience. Oil companies have given them a list which details exactly what they need to increase production.

    Even a 5 year old could just say, "ok, everything on that list, lets do that".

    But she won't.

    Because oil companies are evil, profiteering, hoarders of oil, who seek nothing but to destroy the environment and re-elect Trump so that he can partner with Putin to conquer the world and eliminate gay marriage and club baby seals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Perhaps she is both...stupid and evil...bad combination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Perhaps she is both...stupid and evil...bad combination.
    I think they truly are baffled. They work in government for so long that they have no understanding of the real marketplace. They think in term of subsidies and taxes, not value or risk or reward.

    Stupid and evil for sure.
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    LOUD Words and croc tears about the pain of gas prices. QUIET actions to destroy fossil fuel sources. Maybe even black ops to destroy oil/gas infrastructure along with an amazing string of incidents at food processing facilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I think they truly are baffled. They work in government for so long that they have no understanding of the real marketplace. They think in term of subsidies and taxes, not value or risk or reward.

    Stupid and evil for sure.
    Nope EVIL only and tireless in pursuing the 16 Year Plan to kill half of us and force the survivors into the USSA which can best be described by the concept of a boot stomping on a human face forever. STUPID is any RINO who thinks he/she/binary is going to escape the Nuremberg Style day of reckoning awaiting the demoRats around the next bend in the Road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You know, I've always held that our oppressors are not stupid, that they know exactly what they are doing and why.
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