Originally Posted by ggibson1
Rule #2 when a mistake happens, take ownership and fix it. Don't give excuses!
I sent this to Trevor, at teaparty07.com. I think it's a good idea for the post-tea party page. It'll have THOUSANDS of people going to the page as the news reports the url. I told he should make sure he has two things while the media is giving teaparty07.com the attention:
a) Links to videos revealing the dark side of Rudy, Romney, Guliani, and Mccain.
b) Link to other grassroots plans (operationnh.com and especially ronpauldvdbomb.com). There's a list here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=49595
And then I thanked him. If you want, you can email him too.
The Grassroots Schedule (Dates of events, rallies, plans, and fundraisers):
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=49595
I think it's incredible that there has been NO email sent out yet and we are already trending as high as we are!
lol guys, every forum has this problem of bickering. Especially if money is involved in some way. Not one of you here is going to stop that, so just leave the thread and drink some tea.
ouch, you putting me on your ignore list would hurt me how? and who is 'everyone'? everyone who disagrees with one thing i've said should automatically put me on ignore?
go ahead and silence your critics, but when you go out and declare to the public that you have, and encourage them to do so as well, you'll turn off a lot of people.
People need to take a chill pill. Sure things could have been handled differently, but that can't be changed now. Today is supposed to be a day of celebration, not a day of bickering.
I'm not sure why people are making liberal use of the ignore button either. Maybe it's just me but my philosophy is to ignore posts rather than users.
Anyways, let's just keep things civil here. Stressing out will do no good.
I just recieved an e-mail from HQ.
It is the article written by Dr. Paul found on the HQ home page.
(What an amazing mission you and I are on. What great ideas we uphold
-- the legacy of the most important thinkers of liberty in our
country's history, and the most important doers of liberty in America. At the
top of that list are the donors and volunteers of this campaign................)
Please send the email out ASAP! We need to remind people about the Tea Party!
When a certain person has over 10k posts in a forum you HAVE to ignore the user. I stopped coming to this site because of that one person and dammit I am sick of it.
So it's either I stop coming here and not know whats up with the RP stuff or I put someone on ignore.
Exactly.
I made my donation already and I'm having a great cup of tea right now while I watch that beautiful, steep, quickly increasing $$$ total.
This sounds just like George Bush. Only allowing those who adore his every move to be near him, and keeping all other dissent 500 yards away in a "free speech zone" around the corner where he can't see it. Seems to be working well for Georgy-boy, can't see any reason not to follow the same logic.
Just wow! This is embarassing.
Trevor, if you even bother to read threads anymore, which I would not blame you if you didn't, you are doing an amazing job! I'm a hard sell and don't throw around praise unless it is truly deserved. You are rockin' the casbah Trevor and am especially proud that you are the face representing us all in the MSM. I sure wouldn't want the many asshats I see on this forum doing it!
What has he done except be negligent with his responsibilities? There seemed to be no issue with the Pimp The Blimp e-mails coming out everyday.
We've been through this before with this guy - all about him!
This thread is a TEA PARTY buzz kill.
Hey all- the emails are going out today between 1pm and 3pm. I tried to adjust in feedburner to go out this morning but there is a glitch in Feedburner's set up. The page that allows me to change the times also seems to call the entire list up before allowing the "update settings" button to appear. There are so many emails that the page just hangs and never finishes loading. So.. the time is stuck at 1-30pm.
I'll get in touch about it for future events. Hopefully they can fix it. Feedburner doing email is a new thing for them so they are bound to have a few bugs.
Other than that... what a great day so far!! Congratulations to all of us!!
You've been a pain in the a$$ whiner in here from the start. Always a control freak ready to pounce.That's right, Trevor. Can't stand the truth, so you try to make it disappear. Real grownup, aren't you?Do we want someone like this presenting himself as the figurehead of the grassroots?
You seem to love claiming that those who disagree with you ignore the 'facts' or the 'truth', yet you sprinkle your accusations with speculative assertions. eg. Claiming Trevor was tired, hence hinting that he was lying about the software problem. This is one of your facts! I've seen you do this a lot.
You said Trevor should have sent out an email 2 days ago, in fact he sent one out 3 days ago.
Maybe, as such a bright spark, you could have set up a website a week ago detailing a marketing strategic plan for sending out the emails. You didn't, Trevor did. I think he gets a C for the management of the emails, if compared to a dedicated manager, but I also don't know all the facts.News
We’ve got just about 3 days left until the big day. Now is the time to start flooding myspace and other social networks. This is the last big push. We’re coming into the home stretch!
But yourself and others who are treating him like the devil reincarnate get an F- from me.
Get in and help these projects if you are all so perfect. I suspect few would want to work with you.
btw: I give Trevor an A+ on thick skin. Without that, he would have done as most would do and quit when the abuse started to rain in at the start. It's little wonder he doesn't come here for feedback as often these days. There are several swarming sharks constantly waiting to bite and turn threads into flame wars.
Last edited by LBT; 12-16-2007 at 12:33 PM.
I just received the email.
Obviously not.
I called his Press Manager, Bryce and it was HE who said that Trevor was tired, but that he would call him and ask him to send out the email. THAT is called a fact.
You are right. The last one he sent out was on Thursday.You said Trevor should have sent out an email 2 days ago, in fact he sent one out 3 days ago.
What the hell are you talking about? Trevor didn't establish a strategic plan for the Tea Party. Are you implying that it was even his idea to begin with, because it was not. When he became involved with the teaparty07.com website, he accepted the responsibility for notifying the subscribers. That is why he had access to the list.Maybe, as such a bright spark, you could have set up a website a week ago detailing a marketing strategic plan for sending out the emails. You didn't, Trevor did. I think he gets a C for the management of the emails, if compared to a dedicated manager, but I also don't know all the facts.
I know everyone makes mistakes and if he had come on here saying that he had made one, the conversation would have stopped right there. But, that is not what he did.
If you go back and read what I said to Trevor, it was far from calling him the devil incarnate. In fact, I thanked him for what he had done in the overall perspective. Trevor's response was to attack ME. He does not have thick skin, preferring instead to ignore anyone who holds him accountable for his actions. Any person taking responsibility, would have apologized.But yourself and others who are treating him like the devil reincarnate get an F- from me.
Get in and help these projects if you are all so perfect. I suspect few would want to work with you.
btw: I give Trevor an A+ on thick skin. Without that, he would have done as most would do and quit when the abuse started to rain in at the start. It's little wonder he doesn't come here for feedback as often these days. There are several swarming sharks constantly waiting to bite and turn threads into flame wars.
This about liberty and freedom not any of one person.....stop with the nonsense please
We have thousands of strong supporters. Obviously we all make mistakes and no one is perfect. It was a mistake to have one person responsible for the teaparty emails. I never understood why people delagated this to one individual in the first place.
Now, you are talking out the side of your mouth and have no idea of any facts. You have no idea the number of hours I have spent working on this project, or any of us for that matter. You have a lot of nerve attacking what you know nothing about.
This thread started with us trying to wake Trevor up and send out an email and for that we have been attacked. In fact, that is the help that this project needed at the time. Since then we have done nothing but be attacked for daring to try to get the emails out and the tea party going.
Doing nothing and waiting is not my style. If I see a problem I try to fix it. If none of us had said anything no emails would have gone out yet. So, quit complaining that someone was trying to get something done around here.
You are the one who did nothing. We got the phone numbers. Liberty made the call to Bryce. Others called the owner of the website. That is "taking action" and doing something. That is working on the campaign.
Not to mention the over 10,000 emails that I sent out pushing this tea party and the hundreds of phone calls, and the dozens of conversations convincing people to donate and the things I have made and sold to others for donations for today, and getting the campaign to fix the ability for foreigners to donate, and telling the whole world about the tea party in hundreds of emails of foreign sites and a hundred other things I can't even remember. So don't tell me about not doing anything. It was Trevor's inaction that started this. So chill out!
You don't understand how important this day was. Letting it slip through our fingers is disastrous and cannot be fixed. Sending out emails this late will lose untold amounts of money that we could not afford to lose.
So you go ahead and attack the only people around here who give a damn if you like, but it is you who are the one doing nothing.
I wish there was this type of reaction towards 9/11 conspiracy people.
Thanks Trevor.
I remember the day you rolled in here and were shouting down the RP banner guys site. I got in a flame war with you and told you you were a control freak and to go and do your own project. Well.. I guess that was good advice.. Look at what you have accomplished. The people who are griping about bugs in software just do not have an effing clue. I also note you have made several media appearances. These people seem to think you are capable of bilocation and can debug software whilst being interviewed.My personal opinion is that Liberty Eagle, Cyclone and RPSignBomb are worthless posters. Never constructive, always on the attack. For those that agree please add them to your ignore list. I'm doing that now. I'll be adding others to my ignore list shortly.
Here is how:
Click profile name and then (in white lettering and on the right) click "Add to ignore list" and follow through with that. Man- it's long overdue!!!
I always value constructive criticism as do we all.. but these people make it so I can't come to the forums for feedback any longer so this is the only thing to do. Personally I wish the moderators would delete them - a private group is allowed to exclude disruptive members, Ron Paul backs this right and has said so publicly.
Again- for everyone else- congratulations on this terrific day!!! We're making incredible history.
As for banning disruptive members.. Well..you used to be one of those wanting to google bomb down the Revolution guys site, saying nasty things about others efforts here and such... Don't take it so hard chapWhat goes around comes around.
HTH
Randy
Or clueless twits who care not about issues of transparency in public safety.
Randy
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Sure.. Blame it on Trevor and not yet another lame piece of $#@! software that has too many bugs and should NOT be distributed widely as a solution.
These programs are the bane of my existence as a contract IT tech.
Best Regards
Randfy
Yer a bit much junior. he is ego tripping a bit but frankly you look like yer pissed they are not talking to you instead. The mudslinging from a few pf you here show your lack of knowledge of software..to say the least..and most charitable that I can currently offer the situation.
Best Regards
Randy
It's ok to have constructive criticism. I value it. But these people don't just say their piece and let others react. They post over and over and over again- to the point where the speech of others is no longer free. They are abusive and bullies. These attacks have been going on for weeks on end without stop. I want nothing to do with them. If valid constructive criticism comes it can come from others. Thanks for your thoughts.
Last edited by SwordOfShannarah; 12-16-2007 at 02:41 PM.
Agreed. Those are the people that make me nervous in regard to canvassing as well. There are a handful of people that just go off half cocked online, instantly assume there's a conspiracy behind everything...the kind of people that the MSM love focusing on when referring to all of us.
I imagine they're the ones that will argue red-faced in the face of opposition, permanently solidifying their negative views. That in itself is counterproductive but...
Doing it to someone who is helping our cause is just ridiculous. It honestly makes me want to distance myself from that sub-sect of the Paul movement. It's robbing energy, not lending it.
Be civil.
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