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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    That's higher than I thought they could get. Something is going to break. And if by some miracle nothing breaks and all the banks stay solvent, in the end the fed will have to pivot to keep the US from defaulting on its debt. If rates go to 5% that means the interest payments on the debt will go to over 1.5 trillion. That would be close to half our total tax revenue.
    Or maybe the plan is to default.
    Our credit would be ruined but we can take all the money we pay on the debt and use it for the budget instead of borrowing.
    They can always directly print the money too.
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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Or maybe the plan is to default.
    Our credit would be ruined but we can take all the money we pay on the debt and use it for the budget instead of borrowing.
    They can always directly print the money too.

    Default would be a good thing. It would make it harder for us to borrow in the future.

    October they reduced the balance sheet by 80 billion which is the most since they started. The overall reduction is still tiny. My guess is that at some point they resume printing but keeps rates high in the hopes that it will buy them some time. Remember there's 2 things the fed can do, raise rates and print. The rate hikes get all the attention but I think the printing is more powerful and damaging.

    They've raised rates many times in the past but they've never been able to reduce the balance sheet.

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    That's higher than I thought they could get. Something is going to break. And if by some miracle nothing breaks and all the banks stay solvent, in the end the fed will have to pivot to keep the US from defaulting on its debt. If rates go to 5% that means the interest payments on the debt will go to over 1.5 trillion. That would be close to half our total tax revenue.
    That appears to be where things are headed , inflation doesnt change much , they keep raising rates but in smaller increments , they cant reduce the balance sheet much , interest eats half the tax revenue , dems try to increase taxes , no growth in GDP , worst stagflation ever , stocks go up until they collapse etc
    Last edited by oyarde; 11-06-2022 at 11:47 AM.
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  5. #64
    Atlanta Fed President Raphael Bostic Says Inflation Not Responding Thus Far

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...ding-thus-far/
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  7. #65
    Jeremy Hunt Says UK Officially In Recession

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...-in-recession/
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  8. #66
    Fed Officials Indicate Monetary Policy Must Tighten Further To Become Restrictive

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...e-restrictive/
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  9. #67
    Federal Reserve Meeting Minutes Show Rate Hike Pace Likely Slowing

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...ikely-slowing/
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  10. #68
    Australia’s Central Bank Hikes 25 Basis Points

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...-basis-points/
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  11. #69
    Dollar Rises Ahead Of FOMC Meeting And Inflation Print

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...flation-print/
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  12. #70
    Bank Of England Raises Rates 50 Basis Points

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...-basis-points/


    Same thing the Fed just did.
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  13. #71
    I think the only important lesson from this is fed raising rates , even mortgage rates hitting near the adjusted inflation mark being reported with ( double digit food )and energy removed has not made any real improvement to inflation as was expected. It was obvious from the beginning that there was no action taken for too long . Inflation still over 7 percent 19 months after it was 8 percent by the accounting they use. Dismal. Now we also know retail sales were down last month so there already probably is no growth going forward.
    Last edited by oyarde; 12-19-2022 at 10:51 AM.
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  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I think the only important lesson from this is fed raising rates , even mortgage rates hitting near the adjusted inflation mark being reported with ( double digit food )and energy removed has not made any real improvement to inflation as was expected. It was obvious from the beginning that there was no action taken for too long . Inflation still over 7 percent 19 months after it was 8 percent by the accounting they use. Dismal. Now we also know retail sales were down last month so there already probably is no growth going forward.
    I'm surprised they made it to 4.25% without a major crash. I'm guessing it's because a lot of the money that's been printed (8 trillion) is held in reserves so there's a buffer. But there will be a major crash at some point.



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  16. #73
    IMF Says Fed’s Restrictive Policy To Remain Through 2023

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...-through-2023/
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  18. #75
    Fed’s Logan Says Rate Hikes Could Get Smaller, And Peak Rate Could Increase

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...ould-increase/
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  19. #76
    Fed Hikes 25 Basis Points, Stocks Rise

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...s-stocks-rise/
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  20. #77
    Fed Officials Indicate Rates May Go Higher
    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...may-go-higher/
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  21. #78
    Both Goldman And BofA Predict More Rate Hikes Coming

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...-hikes-coming/
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  22. #79
    General expectation at this point is inflation rises for Feb - Apr which will translate into more fed interest down the road. We shall see .
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  23. #80
    US Federal Reserve Warns More Rate Hikes Coming

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...-hikes-coming/
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  25. #81
    Ya , I'd expect high inflation and at least two more rate hikes. I.m basing that off just all the fed income tax refund money getting dumped into economy as soon as it arrives and lower energy bills until summer freeing up cash.The avg joe has had it pretty rough since Thanksgiving.
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  26. #82
    Oil Continues To Weaken Off Fed Fears

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...off-fed-fears/
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  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Oil Continues To Weaken Off Fed Fears

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...off-fed-fears/
    The markets have been pretty boring for quite awhile now but I think that's about to change. The Fed, which has not lost money since like 1915 is starting to have massive losses the last couple months and a couple of US banks are failing now. I've been saying all along that it's either going to be a financial crisis or a depression or ultimately a potential default by the US that is going to force the Fed to start printing again.

    Keep on eye on the fed's balance sheet. They printed a little this week but they've been printing a little one week then reducing by a bigger amount the next week for awhile now. But I have a feeling that's about to change.

    https://www.federalreserve.gov/monet...centtrends.htm

  28. #84
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  29. #85
    SVB bank failure could make the Fed pause with rate hikes. The one thing the Fed cares about more than their public mandates is the health of the banking sector.
    I compiled a "brief" history of events since October 2008 that are defining the global currency war and the role that gold is playing:

    Tin Foil Hats, Economic Reality and the Total Perspective Vortex

    Also, have you contacted your Congressional Rep and asked them co-sponsor Ron Paul's Rep. Paul Broun Jr.'s HR 1098 77: Free Competition in Currencies Act?

  30. #86
    US Job Cuts Running At Record Levels

    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...record-levels/
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