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  1. #1891
    US Ready To Provide Kiev With Cluster ATACMS

    The White House is close to deciding it will provide Ukraine with a cluster-armed version of the Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS), which has a range of nearly 200 miles and can be fired from HIMARS launchers, according to the Washington Post. The HIMARS in Kyiv’s possession are currently firing munitions with a range of 50 miles. The US arming Ukrainian forces with ATACMS would mark a significant escalation in the proxy war with Russia and cross Moscow’s “red line.”

    https://news.antiwar.com/2023/09/22/...-armed-atacms/

    McCarthy Restores Ukraine Funding to DoD Bill

    https://news.antiwar.com/2023/09/23/...-defense-bill/

    On Friday, McCarthy said that due to significant concern about providing funding to Ukraine, he would strip a provision in the National Defense Authorization Act that provided $300 million in assistance for Kyiv. A day later, the Speaker reversed course saying his plan did not have the votes to pass. “It became too difficult to do that, so we’re leaving it in,” he said.

    Schumer additionally wants to attach a $24 billion aid package to Ukraine within the CR. The $24 billion package is separate from the $300 million in funding attached to McCarthy’s defense appropriations bill.

    Kyiv Launches More Attacks on Sevastopol in Crimea

    https://news.antiwar.com/2023/09/23/...pol-in-crimea/

    Zelensky Gets More Cluster Bombs in DC Visit

    https://news.antiwar.com/2023/09/21/...ring-zelensky-



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  3. #1892
    Edited to add that this is a response to post #1891. @Snowball

    In a just world the question would be:
    "Are there enough lampposts?".
    Is anyone asking that now, or are we still stuck in this silly left/right paradigm?
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  4. #1893
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  5. #1894
    Military Overview: Crushing Russian Strikes Destroyed Odessa Sea Port, Military Airfield In Kryvyi Rih And Other Targets

    https://southfront.press/military-ov...other-targets/

    I tried to interview Vladimir Putin, and the US government stopped me,” Carlson claimed in an interview with Swiss media.

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20230925/tu...113642485.html

    Moscow recognised Ukraine's sovereignty back in 1991, Lavrov said, adding that Moscow has no problems with the territorial integrity of Ukraine.

    "It was destroyed by those who carried out and supported the coup, whose leaders declared war against their own people and started bombing their own people,” the minister said.

    Ukraine's neutral status is of fundamental importance for Russia

    Speaking about the Declaration of Independence, the Russian Foreign Minister recalled an important condition for the Russian side regarding the status of Ukraine.

    "It was very important for us in the Declaration of Independence that Ukraine would be a non-aligned country that would not join any military alliances," Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov said. "We support the territorial integrity of Ukraine in that wording, under those conditions,” he emphasised.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin earlier spoke about the principled nature of Ukraine's neutral status as well.

    "Not everyone knows this, but we know it well that Kiev gained its independence and autonomy during the collapse of the Soviet Union on the basis of a declaration of independence, and in this declaration it was written in black and white that Ukraine is a neutral state. This is of fundamental importance for us,” the Russian leader said.

    Ukraine celebrates Independence Day on August 24.
    The Supreme Council of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic adopted a declaration of sovereignty on August 24, 1991.

    https://english.pravda.ru/news/world...vrov_zelensky/
    Last edited by Snowball; 09-25-2023 at 06:15 AM.

  6. #1895
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  7. #1896
    Forecast Predicts Continued Growth For Russian Maritime Trade


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2023/09/26/forecast-predicts-continued-growth-for-russian-maritime-trade/



    Official Predicts Europe Remains Dependent On US LNG For Years


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...lng-for-years/
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  9. #1897
    Is this war still going on or what
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  10. #1898
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Is this war still going on or what
    Shoigu said it will end in 2025.
    Russia will own Ukraine again.

  11. #1899
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Shoigu said it will end in 2025.
    Russia will own Ukraine again.
    Sounds about right
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  12. #1900
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Sounds about right
    Our leaders know it, too. This is an insider money grab, and lots of dead and displaced white men.
    Russia didn't want to be our enemy, but our leaders insisted upon it because anywhere they don't own is our enemy.

  13. #1901
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  14. #1902
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Our leaders know it, too. This is an insider money grab, and lots of dead and displaced white men.
    Russia didn't want to be our enemy, but our leaders insisted upon it because anywhere they don't own is our enemy.
    Anywhere nominally Christian is their enemy, that's why they arranged to make Armenia lose.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  15. #1903
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Anywhere nominally Christian is their enemy, that's why they arranged to make Armenia lose.
    Nagorno-Karabakh is being evacuated by up to 120,000 Armenians right now. Being an exclave, based on Old World settlements going back centuries, it doesn't fit well with the strict border-oriented demands of the modern nation-state age. There are few true exclaves remaining in the world. The only reason why Kaliningrad remains is because of Russia's military power. When the current Armenian PM, Pashinyan, began turning his back on Russia, a long-time ally, many Armenians were upset. Eventually, Azerbaijan, which is beefed up with Israeli weapons, and Moroccan-granted Israeli weapons (Israel has turned Morocco into an African satellite state, which is why the US recognizes Moroccan sovereignty over Western Sahara), along with Turkish weapons, emboldened Azerbaijan.

    With the new weapons and seeing that Armenia turned to the US over Russia, Azerbaijanis knew it was time to make a move because Russia was the only power that kept them from invading Nagoron-Karabakh all these years. The Russians were vocally displeased by this. They knew it was the wrong move for Armenians, especially those 120k living in the exclave, and the result today is complete loss of property for all of them.

    We could talk more about the ancient and modern enmity between Armenia, one of the very oldest Christian people, and Muslims and Jews, because this is merely the latest development in a centuries-long struggle. The Biden Administration is totally staffed and directed by Jews. They would not lift a finger to protect Christians anywhere. Not in the Middle East, Europe, Africa, Asia, or even in the Americas. Operational elite Jewry regards non-Jews as competition to be assimilated or crushed. So, once again, Russia shows that it is the true ally of Christians, Caucasians, local empowerment (such as Africa) and, and much of the world is gratefully acknowledging this, which is making the political structures of Judeo-Masonic globalism break apart, leading to a true multi-polar world order that is the mandate of both Russia and China. This is the only reason for strife and danger of WW3 in the world, this Judeo-Masonic obsession with attaining control over all of humanity, for perpetuity.
    Last edited by Snowball; 09-28-2023 at 08:59 AM.

  16. #1904
    Ukrainian troops surrendering en masse - TASS

    https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/world/u...en-masse-tass/

    Ukraine Could End War in a Day if Kyiv Surrenders: Kremlin

    https://www.newsweek.com/kremlin-say...dering-1719973

    Ukrainian Soldiers' Surrender to Russian Forces: Analyzing the Implications

    https://bnn.network/world/ukraine/uk...ailed-insight/

    In recent weeks, a significant number of Ukrainian troops have surrendered to the Russian military, utilizing a dedicated radio frequency established by the Russian armed forces, known as “Volga” with a call sign of 149.200. This frequency was set up during the summer and has been actively used by over 10,000 Ukrainian servicemen who subsequently surrendered to Russian custody. The radio frequency is operational along the entire front line.

    According to Moscow’s latest assessments, Kiev has incurred over 17,000 military casualties this month alone. Since the commencement of the counteroffensive, Ukraine has witnessed more than 83,000 military personnel fatalities, along with the destruction of over 10,000 pieces of heavy military equipment, as per the Russian military’s data.

    The surrendering Ukrainian soldiers, utilizing the “Volga” frequency, are reportedly well-fed and receive necessary medical care. This significant surrendering of troops via radio communication underscores the complex dynamics and challenges faced by Ukrainian forces in the ongoing conflict with Russian military forces.

    https://tfiglobalnews.com/2023/09/28...tats-revealed/



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  18. #1905
    Britain’s Economy Forecasted To Contract In 2023 And 2024


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2023/09/28/britains-economy-forecasted-to-contract-in-2023-and-2024/



    Binance Exits Russia, Sells Russian Operations To CommEX


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2023/09/28/binance-exits-russia-sells-russian-operations-to-commex/



    Russia-China De-Dollarization Threatens Strength Of Dollar


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...gth-of-dollar/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  19. #1906
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #152:

    WASTED LIVES: New Map Shows Just How Bad Ukraine War Is Going | SYSTEM UPDATE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9j495xvqH8
    {Glenn Greenwald | 29 September 2023}


  20. #1907
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  21. #1908
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  22. #1909
    Russian Bank Rated Top Among European Banks


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2023/10/01/russian-bank-rated-top-among-european-banks/



    Oil Prices Surge Quarter Over Quarter Off Supply Cuts


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...f-supply-cuts/
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  23. #1910
    https://twitter.com/JimFergusonUK/st...33420157685760


  24. #1911
    McCarthy is going bend on Ukraine. Senate GOP will approve 70 Billion.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lindsey...pt-10-01-2023/

    Russia is being forced to launch an all out war against NATO.
    ďYou are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!Ē - Andrew Jackson

  25. #1912
    In Britain, Royal UK Borough Acknowledges Financial Distress


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2023/10/02/in-britain-royal-uk-borough-acknowledges-financial-distress/



    Italy Heading To Demographic Disaster As Births Plunge And Pension Costs Rise


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...on-costs-rise/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  27. #1913
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  28. #1914
    Britain OUT of weapons to send Ukraine.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...ne/ar-AA1hAs4k

    US political drama holding back cash to Ukraine, but Biden says he can do it without Congress.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...ch/ar-AA1hHp0Y
    ďYou are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!Ē - Andrew Jackson

  29. #1915
    If anyone is on twitter be aware of NAFO bot accounts or actually Ukrainian supporters.
    There are some reasonable/rational Ukrainian supporters however there are those NAFO types that you should be taking caution with.

    do not engage with them on twitter.

  30. #1916
    Russian Ruble Passes Through Landmark Exchange Rate With Dollar


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...e-with-dollar/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  31. #1917
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    In Britain, Royal UK Borough Acknowledges Financial Distress


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2023/10/02/in-britain-royal-uk-borough-acknowledges-financial-distress/



    Italy Heading To Demographic Disaster As Births Plunge And Pension Costs Rise


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...on-costs-rise/
    Its almost as if these polticans are doing these Pension Costs on propose to create a manufactured crisis.

    To make sure that Births plunge down

  32. #1918
    Russian Oil Exports Jump 24% In One Week


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...4-in-one-week/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  33. #1919
    Russia Tightens Rules For Exiting Firms Again


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2023/10/05/russia-tightens-rules-for-exiting-firms-again/



    Gazprom Execs Note EU Energy Security Is Unstable


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...y-is-unstable/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  34. #1920
    Putin: Western Sanctions Only Made Russia’s Economy Stronger


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...nomy-stronger/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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