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  1. #2461
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #332:

    Major Escalation: U.S. Set To Allow Ukraine To Use European Missiles to Strike Deep Inside Russia
    https://rumble.com/v5eu1wd-major-esc...s-to-stri.html
    {Glenn Greenwald | 13 September 2024}




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  3. #2462
    Do they foolish believe and hope that by Giving Ukraine long range missiles to zelensky and the Govt in Ukraine would change the course of the war?
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 09-13-2024 at 06:34 PM.

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  5. #2464
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Do they foolish believe and hope that by Giving Ukraine long range missiles to zelensky and the Govt in Ukraine would change the course of the war?
    I'll say this, It's selling more product. $$$$$$



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  7. #2465
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #333:

    New York Times' Pro-War Think Tank Ties EXPOSED: Interview with Journalist Lee Fang
    https://rumble.com/v5exvs5-new-york-...nalist-le.html
    {Glenn Greenwald | 14 September 2024}




    New York Times’ Previous Reporting Undermines Its War Escalation Journalism
    Warnings about major escalation of war -- and potential nuclear war -- take a backseat to think tank experts from the defense industry.
    https://substack.com/@leefang/p-148832643
    {Lee Fang | 13 September 2024}

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  8. #2466
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    I'll say this, It's selling more product. $$$$$$
    Whoever is leading Ukraine clearly it is not the Ukrainian Govt.



    https://x.com/SprinterFamily/status/1835100641947185254

    Attacking these specified areas/structures.Would end Ukraine and Kiev.

    Whoever is running the US Govt. Are Foolish if they believe these attacks is going to force Russia to stop or force them to withdraw.


    command centers, fuel and weapons depots, as well as troop concentration areas.

  9. #2467
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #332:

    Neocon Queen Victoria Nuland ADMITS Not Wanting to End Ukraine War Diplomatically
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg2Rzturj4Q
    {Glenn Greenwald | 14 September 2024}


  10. #2468
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post

    If that's what he really said, holy $#@!.

  11. #2469
    https://x.com/SU_57R/status/1833194622505652334




  12. #2470
    https://x.com/Babygravy9/status/1835425112096420345




  13. #2471
    The US Govt are full are Nut Crazes are they?

    https://x.com/CaptCoronado/status/1836232472545083588


    Whats stopping the Russians from destroying Kiev at this point?
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 09-18-2024 at 07:18 AM.

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    RFK Jr & Trump Jr: Opinion - Negotiate with Moscow 9/17/24

    Opinion piece published in The Hill 9/17/24.

    Negotiate with Moscow to end the Ukraine war and prevent nuclear devastation
    BY ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR. AND DONALD TRUMP JR., OPINION CONTRIBUTORS -
    9/17/24 7:30 AM ET

    The New York Times reported Thursday that the Biden administration is considering allowing Ukraine to use NATO-provided long-range precision weapons against targets deep inside Russia. Such a decision would put the world at greater risk of nuclear conflagration than at any time since the Cuban missile crisis.

    At a time when American leaders should be focused on finding a diplomatic off-ramp to a war that should never have been allowed to take place, the Biden-Harris administration is instead pursuing a policy that Russia says it will interpret as an act of war. In the words of Vladimir Putin, long-range strikes in Russia “will mean that NATO countries — the United States and European countries — are at war with Russia.”

    Some American analysts believe Putin is bluffing, and favor calling his bluff. As the Times reported, “‘Easing the restrictions on Western weapons will not cause Moscow to escalate,’17 former ambassadors and generals wrote in a letter to the administration this week. ‘We know this because Ukraine is already striking territory Russia considers its own — including Crimea and Kursk — with these weapons and Moscow’s response remains unchanged.’”

    These analysts are mistaking restraint for weakness. In essence, they are advocating a strategy of brinksmanship. Each escalation — from HIMARS to cluster munitions to Abrams tanks to F-16s to ATACMS — draws the world closer to the brink of Armageddon. Their logic seems to be that if you goad a bear five times and it doesn’t respond, it is safe to goad him even harder a sixth time.

    Such a strategy might be reasonable if the bear had no teeth. The hawks in the Biden administration seem to have forgotten that Russia is a nuclear power. They have forgotten the wisdom of John F. Kennedy, who said in 1963, “Nuclear powers must avert those confrontations which bring an adversary to a choice of either a humiliating retreat or a nuclear war.”

    We should take this advice seriously. Putin has signaled numerous times that Russia would use nuclear weapons in extreme circumstances. In September 2022, Putin said, “If the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will without doubt use all available means to protect Russia and our people — this is not a bluff.” In March 2023, he struck a deal with Belarus to station tactical nuclear weapons there. Earlier this month, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov announced that Russia would be amending its nuclear doctrine in response to Western involvement in the Ukraine war.

    Imagine if Russia were providing another country with missiles, training and targeting information to strike deep into American territory. The U.S. would never tolerate it. We shouldn’t expect Russia to tolerate it either.

    This game of nuclear “chicken” has gone far enough. There is no remaining step between firing U.S. missiles deep into Russian territory and a nuclear exchange. We cannot get any closer to the brink than this.

And for what? To “weaken Russia”? To control Ukraine’s minerals? No vital American interest is at stake. To risk nuclear conflict for the sake of the neoconservative fantasy of global “full-spectrum dominance” is madness.

    The war fever in the U.S. foreign policy establishment is at such a pitch that it is hard to tell whether they believe their own rhetoric. In last Tuesday’s debate, Vice President Kamala Harris conjured up images of Russian forces rolling across Europe. Surely she must know how absurd that is. For one thing, Russia can barely wrest a few provinces from Ukraine, which is by no means one of Europe’s great powers.

    Secondly, Russia made its war aims very clear at the outset — most notably Ukrainian neutrality and a halt to NATO’s eastward expansion. Hundreds of thousands of lost lives, and hundreds of billions of dollars later, no one is better off — not Europe, not America and certainly not Ukraine.

    It is past time to de-escalate this conflict. This is more important than any of the political issues our nation argues about. Nuclear war would mean the end of civilization as we know it, maybe even the end of the human species.

    Former President Donald Trump has vowed to end this war, but by the time he takes office, it might be too late. We need to demand, right now, that Harris and President Biden reverse their insane war agenda and open direct negotiations with Moscow.

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is an environmental lawyer and public health advocate.
    Donald Trump Jr. is executive vice president of the Trump Organization.


    https://thehill.com/opinion/internat...ar-devastation

  17. #2474
    Yet you have two clowns singing their names on a weapon.
    Weapons that will be dropped on Civilian targets.

    Scranton who make Pennsylvania the arsenal of democracy to the brave Ukrainian soldiers protecting their country.
    https://x.com/GovernorShapiro/status...34703301619727
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 09-23-2024 at 06:52 PM.

  18. #2475
    Let's not hijack that other thread, shall we?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No, that it happened, that we were able to make the changes in the GOP, that made Darth run like vampire from garlis.

    Trump channeling Ron on the cause of the Ukraine war.

    https://x.com/i/status/1838492352954216564

    Well, yeah. There's no percentage in nuclear war, no matter how rich you are. They've bought themselves time to pump out a lot of gas and sell their Burisma stock. They've linked it all to Joe and Hunter so Trump can "solve the problem for us". Given all that, why wouldn't they throw us a bone? Not that Harris wouldn't back down just as quick, if we were to roll over and take the next election theft.

    But about Bibi's War and the Small Hat Club's agenda there can be no doubt. And there is none.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 09-25-2024 at 10:42 AM.

  19. #2476
    NATO's new Sec is a Clown.
    https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1841545274810106314

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