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  1. #2461
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #332:

    Major Escalation: U.S. Set To Allow Ukraine To Use European Missiles to Strike Deep Inside Russia
    https://rumble.com/v5eu1wd-major-esc...s-to-stri.html
    {Glenn Greenwald | 13 September 2024}




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  3. #2462
    Do they foolish believe and hope that by Giving Ukraine long range missiles to zelensky and the Govt in Ukraine would change the course of the war?
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 09-13-2024 at 06:34 PM.

  4. #2463

  5. #2464
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Do they foolish believe and hope that by Giving Ukraine long range missiles to zelensky and the Govt in Ukraine would change the course of the war?
    I'll say this, It's selling more product. $$$$$$



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  7. #2465
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #333:

    New York Times' Pro-War Think Tank Ties EXPOSED: Interview with Journalist Lee Fang
    https://rumble.com/v5exvs5-new-york-...nalist-le.html
    {Glenn Greenwald | 14 September 2024}




    New York Times’ Previous Reporting Undermines Its War Escalation Journalism
    Warnings about major escalation of war -- and potential nuclear war -- take a backseat to think tank experts from the defense industry.
    https://substack.com/@leefang/p-148832643
    {Lee Fang | 13 September 2024}

    [...]
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  8. #2466
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    I'll say this, It's selling more product. $$$$$$
    Whoever is leading Ukraine clearly it is not the Ukrainian Govt.



    https://x.com/SprinterFamily/status/1835100641947185254

    Attacking these specified areas/structures.Would end Ukraine and Kiev.

    Whoever is running the US Govt. Are Foolish if they believe these attacks is going to force Russia to stop or force them to withdraw.


    command centers, fuel and weapons depots, as well as troop concentration areas.

  9. #2467
    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #332:

    Neocon Queen Victoria Nuland ADMITS Not Wanting to End Ukraine War Diplomatically
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg2Rzturj4Q
    {Glenn Greenwald | 14 September 2024}


  10. #2468
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post

    If that's what he really said, holy $#@!.

  11. #2469
    https://x.com/SU_57R/status/1833194622505652334




  12. #2470
    https://x.com/Babygravy9/status/1835425112096420345




  13. #2471
    The US Govt are full are Nut Crazes are they?

    https://x.com/CaptCoronado/status/1836232472545083588


    Whats stopping the Russians from destroying Kiev at this point?
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 09-18-2024 at 07:18 AM.

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  16. #2473

    RFK Jr & Trump Jr: Opinion - Negotiate with Moscow 9/17/24

    Opinion piece published in The Hill 9/17/24.

    Negotiate with Moscow to end the Ukraine war and prevent nuclear devastation
    BY ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR. AND DONALD TRUMP JR., OPINION CONTRIBUTORS -
    9/17/24 7:30 AM ET

    The New York Times reported Thursday that the Biden administration is considering allowing Ukraine to use NATO-provided long-range precision weapons against targets deep inside Russia. Such a decision would put the world at greater risk of nuclear conflagration than at any time since the Cuban missile crisis.

    At a time when American leaders should be focused on finding a diplomatic off-ramp to a war that should never have been allowed to take place, the Biden-Harris administration is instead pursuing a policy that Russia says it will interpret as an act of war. In the words of Vladimir Putin, long-range strikes in Russia “will mean that NATO countries — the United States and European countries — are at war with Russia.”

    Some American analysts believe Putin is bluffing, and favor calling his bluff. As the Times reported, “‘Easing the restrictions on Western weapons will not cause Moscow to escalate,’17 former ambassadors and generals wrote in a letter to the administration this week. ‘We know this because Ukraine is already striking territory Russia considers its own — including Crimea and Kursk — with these weapons and Moscow’s response remains unchanged.’”

    These analysts are mistaking restraint for weakness. In essence, they are advocating a strategy of brinksmanship. Each escalation — from HIMARS to cluster munitions to Abrams tanks to F-16s to ATACMS — draws the world closer to the brink of Armageddon. Their logic seems to be that if you goad a bear five times and it doesn’t respond, it is safe to goad him even harder a sixth time.

    Such a strategy might be reasonable if the bear had no teeth. The hawks in the Biden administration seem to have forgotten that Russia is a nuclear power. They have forgotten the wisdom of John F. Kennedy, who said in 1963, “Nuclear powers must avert those confrontations which bring an adversary to a choice of either a humiliating retreat or a nuclear war.”

    We should take this advice seriously. Putin has signaled numerous times that Russia would use nuclear weapons in extreme circumstances. In September 2022, Putin said, “If the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will without doubt use all available means to protect Russia and our people — this is not a bluff.” In March 2023, he struck a deal with Belarus to station tactical nuclear weapons there. Earlier this month, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov announced that Russia would be amending its nuclear doctrine in response to Western involvement in the Ukraine war.

    Imagine if Russia were providing another country with missiles, training and targeting information to strike deep into American territory. The U.S. would never tolerate it. We shouldn’t expect Russia to tolerate it either.

    This game of nuclear “chicken” has gone far enough. There is no remaining step between firing U.S. missiles deep into Russian territory and a nuclear exchange. We cannot get any closer to the brink than this.

And for what? To “weaken Russia”? To control Ukraine’s minerals? No vital American interest is at stake. To risk nuclear conflict for the sake of the neoconservative fantasy of global “full-spectrum dominance” is madness.

    The war fever in the U.S. foreign policy establishment is at such a pitch that it is hard to tell whether they believe their own rhetoric. In last Tuesday’s debate, Vice President Kamala Harris conjured up images of Russian forces rolling across Europe. Surely she must know how absurd that is. For one thing, Russia can barely wrest a few provinces from Ukraine, which is by no means one of Europe’s great powers.

    Secondly, Russia made its war aims very clear at the outset — most notably Ukrainian neutrality and a halt to NATO’s eastward expansion. Hundreds of thousands of lost lives, and hundreds of billions of dollars later, no one is better off — not Europe, not America and certainly not Ukraine.

    It is past time to de-escalate this conflict. This is more important than any of the political issues our nation argues about. Nuclear war would mean the end of civilization as we know it, maybe even the end of the human species.

    Former President Donald Trump has vowed to end this war, but by the time he takes office, it might be too late. We need to demand, right now, that Harris and President Biden reverse their insane war agenda and open direct negotiations with Moscow.

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is an environmental lawyer and public health advocate.
    Donald Trump Jr. is executive vice president of the Trump Organization.


    https://thehill.com/opinion/internat...ar-devastation

  17. #2474
    Yet you have two clowns singing their names on a weapon.
    Weapons that will be dropped on Civilian targets.

    Scranton who make Pennsylvania the arsenal of democracy to the brave Ukrainian soldiers protecting their country.
    https://x.com/GovernorShapiro/status...34703301619727
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 09-23-2024 at 06:52 PM.

  18. #2475
    Let's not hijack that other thread, shall we?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No, that it happened, that we were able to make the changes in the GOP, that made Darth run like vampire from garlis.

    Trump channeling Ron on the cause of the Ukraine war.

    https://x.com/i/status/1838492352954216564

    Well, yeah. There's no percentage in nuclear war, no matter how rich you are. They've bought themselves time to pump out a lot of gas and sell their Burisma stock. They've linked it all to Joe and Hunter so Trump can "solve the problem for us". Given all that, why wouldn't they throw us a bone? Not that Harris wouldn't back down just as quick, if we were to roll over and take the next election theft.

    But about Bibi's War and the Small Hat Club's agenda there can be no doubt. And there is none.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 09-25-2024 at 10:42 AM.

  19. #2476
    NATO's new Sec is a Clown.
    https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1841545274810106314

  20. #2477
    Russian Forces Strike Starokonstantinov Airfield, Fuel Base Near Odessa
    https://sputnikglobe.com/20241006/ru...120440380.html
    In bed with $6 million: Ukrainian officials become dollar millionaires profiting from draft dodgers
    https://english.pravda.ru/news/world...on-corruption/
    Russian marines raided a settlement in Kursk: more than 35 dead Ukrainians and dozens of prisoners
    https://www-defencenet-gr.translate...._x_tr_pto=wapp
    Russia's lone envoy to the U.S. now back in Moscow, ending term, no word on replacement
    https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-s-e...l/7812088.html
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  21. #2478
    It appears there has no videos coming out from Syria showing any attacks on the Russian base in Syria.
    Likely those tweets were untrue.

  22. #2479
    Amazing for a tweet like this gets 8.9k likes without a community note striking.

    https://x.com/victoriaslog/status/1842620461340832242

    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 10-07-2024 at 09:51 AM.

  23. #2480
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Let's not hijack that other thread, shall we?
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Trump channeling Ron on the cause of the Ukraine war.

    https://x.com/i/status/1838492352954216564

    Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see how he's channeling Ron Paul. Is there a clip with additional context that I'm missing?

    My understanding is that when Trump says that "it wouldnt have happened" under his Presidency, its because Trump believes he is intimidating and other countries are scared to cross him.

    And that may or may not be true, but what is true, is that the 2nd Minsk agreement was broken during his Presidency, which is what directly led to the war in Ukraine. He certainly didn't seem to care about any of this back then.

    Either way, I'm totally missing the Ron Paul vibe on this one.
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  25. #2481
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorLiberty View Post
    Amazing for a tweet like this gets 8.9k likes without a community note striking.

    https://x.com/victoriaslog/status/1842620461340832242

    Why would a Pro-Ukrainian message get a community note? At least back when I was following this (pre-Musk-takeover), it was only pro-Russian messages that got censored (post would be removed and author usually banned, certainly not a "community note")
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  26. #2482
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Why would a Pro-Ukrainian message get a community note? At least back when I was following this (pre-Musk-takeover), it was only pro-Russian messages that got censored (post would be removed and author usually banned, certainly not a "community note")
    Because that tweet is misleading. That claims this.
    Naval logistics is no longer operational
    Hench the user locked replying.

    it was only pro-Russian messages that got censored
    True and pre Elon Musk take over you were arent allowed to criticize the open border, human trafficking as heavily u can now mostly on some parts.

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  28. #2484
    According to Reuters, the United States is on the verge of supplying AGM-158B JASSM missiles to Ukraine, which have the capability to target 50 areas within Russia.

    The earlier version, AGM-158A, has a flight range of 370 kilometers, while the upgraded AGM-158B boasts an extended range of 926 kilometers.

    America will face a 'head-on collision with a nuclear power' if it allows Ukraine to fire US long-range missiles into Russia, the country's outgoing ambassador has warned. (DailyMail)

    "If Russia attacks, Poland and the Baltics will attack St. Petersburg"
    Former Chief of the General Staff of Poland, General Rajmund Andrzejczak, gave an interview to the newspaper "Bild". During the interview, strong and decisive words were spoken, which have already been quoted by many European newspapers. (en.topwar.ru)

    The Hill Opinion
    The US should get out of the way and let Ukraine hit back
    by Peter Juul
    "The U.S and its NATO allies have repeatedly crossed Putin’s declared redlines without much in the way of real consequence. Yet American officials are now refusing to allow Ukraine to use U.S.-provided weapons such as ATACMS long-range missiles to strike targets deep inside Russia."

    Starmer: UK has not agreed to long-range missile use after Zelenskyy meeting
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  29. #2485
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    According to Reuters, the United States is on the verge of supplying AGM-158B JASSM missiles to Ukraine, which have the capability to target 50 areas within Russia.

    The earlier version, AGM-158A, has a flight range of 370 kilometers, while the upgraded AGM-158B boasts an extended range of 926 kilometers.

    America will face a 'head-on collision with a nuclear power' if it allows Ukraine to fire US long-range missiles into Russia, the country's outgoing ambassador has warned. (DailyMail)

    "If Russia attacks, Poland and the Baltics will attack St. Petersburg"
    Former Chief of the General Staff of Poland, General Rajmund Andrzejczak, gave an interview to the newspaper "Bild". During the interview, strong and decisive words were spoken, which have already been quoted by many European newspapers. (en.topwar.ru)

    The Hill Opinion
    The US should get out of the way and let Ukraine hit back
    by Peter Juul
    "The U.S and its NATO allies have repeatedly crossed Putin’s declared redlines without much in the way of real consequence. Yet American officials are now refusing to allow Ukraine to use U.S.-provided weapons such as ATACMS long-range missiles to strike targets deep inside Russia."

    Starmer: UK has not agreed to long-range missile use after Zelenskyy meeting

    The US should get out of the way and let Ukraine hit back
    But they should accpet Russia wont fight back?





    "If Russia attacks, Poland and the Baltics will attack St. Petersburg"
    It appears that the fascists are back and are obsessed trying to destroy Russia and its cities.
    Last edited by WarriorLiberty; 10-12-2024 at 01:15 PM.

  30. #2486
    What Lindsey Graham wanted.
    privatization kills a economy.

    Selling their resources for the global market and not pushing into Ukrankian ecmcocny.
    The holding plans not only to fulfill all privatization commitments, but also to modernize, develop new products through deep processing of raw materials and expand into global markets, Volodymyr Lavrenchuk, the company’s regional director, told Forbes Ukraine before the auction winner was announced.



    Ukraine sells titanium producer in rare wartime privatization

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