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    Putin Declares War


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    https://www.twitter.com/NeilPHauer/s...81537504436226
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    US media says declares war and invades. Russian government says peacekeeping mission in territory they have defacto controlled since 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    US media says declares war and invades. Russian government says peacekeeping mission in territory they have defacto controlled since 2014.
    Semantics. The actions taken by Putin are war, no matter the hyperbole used to describe it. And it’s one of those situations where hyperbole is warranted.

    But yes, the US MSM (aka Military Media Industrial Complex) is having an orgy. It has been full employment time for every discredited neocon and neolib pundit and propagandist for the past couple of weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Semantics. The actions taken by Putin are war, no matter the hyperbole used to describe it. And it’s one of those situations where hyperbole is warranted.

    But yes, the US MSM (aka Military Media Industrial Complex) is having an orgy. It has been full employment time for every discredited neocon and neolib pundit and propagandist for the past couple of weeks.
    So when the US rolls our peacekeeping troops into yet other conflict areas it's declaring war?

    This has been a whole lot of nothing so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    So when the US rolls our peacekeeping troops into yet other conflict areas it's declaring war?

    This has been a whole lot of nothing so far.
    Do you really think Biden will declare war,,rather than face the Truckers? (or will he catch covid)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    So when the US rolls our peacekeeping troops into yet other conflict areas it's declaring war?
    That’s exactly what honest people always call it. Or undeclared war if you prefer.

    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    This has been a whole lot of nothing so far.
    Nationwide cyber attacks and actual kinetic attacks on the Capital (Kiev). Not nothing. Acts of war.
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    Russia moves on Ukraine, explosions near Kyiv.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-beg...034221417.html

    Russian President Vladimir Putin signaled the start of a military operation in Ukraine early Thursday morning local time, announcing that Russian troops would enter Ukraine's Donbas region. The territory is held by Russian-backed separatists and Putin declared it independent of Ukraine earlier this week.

    “I have decided to conduct a special military operation,” Putin said in an early morning speech broadcast on Russian television. “Russia cannot exist with a constant threat emanating from the territory of Ukraine.”

    Experts described the move, which was reported by the Russian state news agency TASS, as a de facto declaration of war. “Putin has declared war on Ukraine,” tweeted Alexander Vindman, a retired United States Army lieutenant colonel who was the director for European affairs for the National Security Council under former President Donald Trump. “The objective is to demilitarize and pacify Ukraine. This is basically the worst case scenario ... Putin wants to destroy Ukraine’s armed forces and install a puppet regime.”

    CNN immediately reported its “team on the ground is hearing several loud explosions near Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine.”

    President Biden released a statement condemning the “unprovoked and unjustified attack.”

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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    Me in a couple hours:
    Psalm 35:7-10, Psalm 109, Isaiah 13:9

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    Post Live Stream..

    last one I saw of Kiev tonight was quiet.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Post Live Stream..

    last one I saw of Kiev tonight was quiet.
    CNN and Fox have reporters in Kiev that keep saying they hear explosions, but they don't have any video. Take that with a grain of salt.

    This is supposedly one of the explosions:

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Post Live Stream..

    last one I saw of Kiev tonight was quiet.
    https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/loud-expl...9s%20northeast.

    LIVE UPDATES

    12.18pm – The Ukrainian ambassador to the UN urged other member nations to “stop the war” while Russian ambassador responded, “This isn’t called a war, this is called a special military operation in Donbas.”

    12.14pm – The US Ambassador to the United Nations said Putin had “delivered a message of war”.

    12.10pm – Explosions have been heard in Boryspil area, east of Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kramatorsk, Mariupol, Black Sea Port in Odessa and Zaporizhzhia. Artillery fire was also heard in Kharkiv.

    12pm – The Russian ambassador to the United Nations, Vasily Alekseevich Nebenzya, justified Russia’s action to conduct military action in the Donbas during an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council.

    11.50am – All airlines and other civilian flights instructed to avoid Ukrainian airspace.


    all I can dig up right now.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Come on,, pull up Knob Hill or something.

    Media Lies have been getting well Documented Lately.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    It's all about Freedom

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    Psalm 35:7-10, Psalm 109, Isaiah 13:9

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    https://twitter.com/i/status/1496685966999830530

    #BREAKING: #Russia Navy has he port of #Odessa in #Ukraine under attack. Also heavy artillery and rocket barrage by BM-21 & BM-27 MRLS of #Russian Army at #Ukrine Army positions in #Kramatorsk now��

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/full-scal...035855195.html
    Last edited by Pauls' Revere; 02-23-2022 at 10:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1496685966999830530

    #BREAKING: #Russia Navy has he port of #Odessa in #Ukraine under attack. Also heavy artillery and rocket barrage by BM-21 & BM-27 MRLS of #Russian Army at #Ukrine Army positions in #Kramatorsk now��

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/full-scal...035855195.html
    Thanks..

    Does seem someone is attacking Kramatorsk.. not Kiev.

    Kramatorsk
    Kramatorsk has been the provisional seat of Donetsk Oblast

    Who is attacking who?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Does seem like the people who had been shelling people in the region are getting shelled themselves.

    Interesting,, and I wish folks in the area the best..
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Russian v. Nazi

    None of our business.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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    It's all about Freedom

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    Rt.com is ironically probably one of the most accurate sources for news on this
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Russian v. Nazi

    None of our business.
    given further thought,, I'll go with Russia.. Nazi's suck.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Does seem like the people who had been shelling people in the region are getting shelled themselves.

    Interesting,, and I wish folks in the area the best..
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/...asion-liveblog
    Kremlin says Ukraine separatists have asked Moscow for “help” against Kyiv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    given further thought,, I'll go with Russia.. Nazi's suck.
    According to this update from Russell Bentley, the Azov Battalion of nazis no longer exists as of tonight.

    Same goes for the UKROP air force, air defences, and fleet of Turkish drones.

    Although ugly, I think neutering Amerika's lap dog will prove to be beneficial to future world peace.




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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    According to this update from Russell Bentley, the Azov Battalion of nazis no longer exists as of tonight.

    Same goes for the UKROP air force, air defences, and fleet of Turkish drones.

    Although ugly, I think neutering Amerika's lap dog will prove to be beneficial to future world peace.


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    I declare Putin will be victorious.

    Putin wouldn't get into something he cannot win. He is unlike our deranged POTUS. He is not doing this for any reason other than he is getting fuhcked and needs to protect the interests of his country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Russian v. Nazi

    None of our business.
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    None of our business
    This is how I feel too.

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    Does the US ever declare war or does US just stick their nose in other countries business? Was Iraq a declared war? Is Russia or just Putin declaring war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Kramatorsk Kramatorsk has been the provisional seat of Donetsk Oblast

    Who is attacking who?
    Kramatorsk is a city that is within the territory deemed independent by Putin that has never been under the control of the separatist groups.


    Remember when you said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    That should give some folks some reprieve from the shelling they have been afflicted with.



    And I said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Doubtful.

    The countries that Putin recognized as independent are twice the size of the area currently controlled by Russia. That leaves as an open question what should be done about the Ukrainian troops who are on territory that Putin identifies as Russian.




    Yeah, it's that area.
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