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    Exclamation Salt Lake City Tribune calls for National Guard to keep unvaxxed in their homes

    House arrest for refusing a jab that is proven unsafe and ineffective.

    Try it. I triple dog dare you.

    Please...please put me under house arrest.



    Salt Lake City Tribune editorial calls for National Guard to keep unvaccinated people in their homes

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/salt-l...le-locked-down

    The Salt Lake City Tribune editorial board published an editorial on Saturday that called on the Utah governor to use the National Guard to prevent unvaccinated citizens from going anywhere.

    In an editorial titled, "Utah leaders have surrendered to COVID pandemic, the Editorial Board writes" the paper lays blame at elected officials for failing to mandate the vaccine for all citizens. The paper asserted that if Utah was a "civilized place," Republican Gov. Spencer Cox would implement a COVID-19 vaccine mandate for the state and have the National Guard enforce the mandate by not letting unvaccinated people go "anywhere."

    "Were Utah a truly civilized place, the governorís next move would be to find a way to mandate the kind of mass vaccination campaign we should have launched a year ago, going as far as to deploy the National Guard to ensure that people without proof of vaccination would not be allowed, well, anywhere," the editorial board wrote.

    While the editorial board placed blame at all levels of government, they were more critical of Republicans like Cox.

    "Government officials, mostly but not exclusively Republicans, were apparently determined not to be caught governing in the face of this challenge. Any move or recommendation to mask up or, when safe and effective vaccines became available, to make vaccination a requirement of admission to public places and society in general was shouted down as an unwarranted imposition on individual freedoms," it wrote. "Cox and so many others have not carried the courage of their convictions. Cox, state legislative leaders, our congressional delegation and Utah Attorney General Sean Reyes have so proudly stood against the kind of vaccine mandates that civilized society has used for generations to effectively wipe out everything from polio to diphtheria to the measles."

    The paper's criticism for President Biden was tepid in comparison. They applauded Biden's effort to implement a nationwide vaccine mandate but criticized the president for taking too long to make COVID-19 tests and N-95 masks widely available.

    "President Joe Biden tried to pull a couple of useful levers by ordering vaccine mandates for health care workers and vaccine-or-test rules for workplaces of more than 100 employees. The U.S. Supreme Court this week upheld the former while quashing the latter, foolishly holding that a communicable disease is not a workplace hazard," the editorial board wrote. "Not that Biden is blameless in all this. Seeing the obvious reluctance of so many people to get, or to require, vaccinations has only now moved him to push to make tests and the most effective kind of masks available to everyone. Itís the right thing to do, but months late."

    Critics fired back at the paper, especially on the suggestion the National Guard be deployed to force unvaccinated individuals to stay in their homes.

    "This is mindless, anti-science insanity ó omicron is infecting everyone ó but these "journalists" are demanding totalitarianism. And they think theyíre the good guys," OutKick founder Clay Travis wrote in a tweet.

    Utah Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson, R., tweeted, "The truth is Omicron is out of control everywhere. Even in places with mask and vaccine mandates. We always push vaccines, but even vaccinated ppl [sic] are catching it. Itís easy to take shots from the cheap seats but this is the sort of nonsense that makes editorial boards irrelevant."

    "Use the national guard to prevent unvaccinated from going anywhere?! That would be more draconian than any state in the country - how do they think things are going in Australia? The Trib editorial board is absolute garbage," former staffer for former Utah senator Orinn Hatch, Matt Whitlock tweeted.
    "Truly, whoever can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire



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    It will never happen. But if it did that would push many people, myself included, over the edge.

  4. #3
    Mormons Naziís

    2 interesting words.

  5. #4
    Ignoring moral or legal issues, the proposal is logistically impossible. Putting the tard in libtard.
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  6. #5
    On April 20, 2016, Huntsman Family Investments, a private equity firm headed by Paul Huntsman, son of industrialist Jon Huntsman Sr., announced that it would be buying the Tribune.[2] He soon announced plans to take the paper non-profit. In November 2019 the newspaper won approval from the Internal Revenue Service to become a 501(c)(3) non-profit.[3] In October 2020, the newspaper announced it would cease daily print publication at the end of the year, shifting instead to a weekly print product while maintaining a robust online presence.[4] It is the first major (and first daily) U.S. newspaper to become a nonprofit.[5]

    The newspaper's motto, at the top of its masthead, is "Utah's Independent Voice Since 1871".
    This is my surprised face. The Mormons need to purge these neocon RINOs from their state government.

  7. #6
    I know someone who caught covid. It is the fault of the unvaccinated. She is fully/triple vaxxed, of course. Her friend is fully/triple vaxxed, of course but her friend went to a family Christmas party with two unvaxxed people in attendance. Her triple vaxxed friend caught it covid and then gave it to her. So it's the fault of the unvaccinated person that she never met, of course.

    She assumes I am vaccinated. I didn't tell her one way or the other. I also didn't point out the logical fallacies in blaming the two unvaxxed people for her covid infection that she caught from her friend, because she would go crazy. The reason why these people go crazy when confronted by the truth is because when a woke friend says something incredibly stupid, we haven't corrected them because we asssumed that such an idiotic idea would die off once the light of everyday reality would shine upon it. That hasn't happened. Instead, each stupid idea acts as a foundation for the next stupid idea and it has solidified into a tower of crazy. I don't know if the tower of crazy can be dismatled or destroyed at this point.
    ...

  8. #7
    COVID-19: Democratic Voters Support Harsh Measures Against Unvaccinated
    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...t_unvaccinated
    Rasmussen Reports (13 January 2022)

    [Bold emphasis added. - OB]

    While many voters have become skeptical toward the federal government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, a majority of Democrats embrace restrictive policies, including punitive measures against those who haven’t gotten the COVID-19 vaccine.

    A new Heartland Institute and Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 48% of voters favor President Joe Biden’s plan to impose a COVID-19 vaccine mandate on the employees of large companies and government agencies. That includes 33% who Strongly Favor the mandate. Forty-eight percent (48%) are opposed to Biden’s vaccine mandate, including 40% who Strongly Oppose the mandate. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    Voters are similarly divided over the federal government’s top COVID-19 expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci. Forty-five percent (45%) view Fauci favorably, including 28% who have a Very Favorable impression of him. Forty-eight percent (48%) have an unfavorable impression of Fauci, including 34% who have a Very Unfavorable view of him.

    The even split among voters is the result of deep partisan divisions. While 78% of Democratic voters support the Biden administration’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate plan, only 22% of Republicans and 41% of voters not affiliated with either major party support the vaccine mandate. And many Democrats would support even harsher measures, including fines for Americans who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine and criminal punishment for vaccine critics.

    “After two excruciatingly long years, likely voters are beginning to question the federal government’s handling of the pandemic,” said Chris Talgo, senior editor and research fellow at The Heartland Institute, which commissioned this poll. “First and foremost, likely voters are beginning to sour on Dr. Anthony Fauci, who seems to have lost credibility after countless flip-flops.”

    Talgo continued: “Moreover, almost half of likely voters oppose President Biden’s vaccine mandates, which seem less about stopping the spread of COVID-19 and more about increasing the power of the federal government. When asked about several other potential strategies, such as fining those who refuse to get vaccinated, the consensus among likely voters is that the federal government should do less, not more.”

    The survey of 1,016 U.S. Likely Voters was conducted on January 5, 2022 by the Heartland Institute and Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

    The survey found that 75% of likely Democratic voters – but only 21% of Republicans and 38% of unaffiliated voters – have a favorable opinion of Dr. Fauci. Among other findings of the survey:

    – Fifty-eight percent (58%) of voters would oppose a proposal for federal or state governments to fine Americans who choose not to get a COVID-19 vaccine. However, 55% of Democratic voters would support such a proposal, compared to just 19% of Republicans and 25% of unaffiliated voters.

    Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Democratic voters would favor a government policy requiring that citizens remain confined to their homes at all times, except for emergencies, if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Such a proposal is opposed by 61% of all likely voters, including 79% of Republicans and 71% of unaffiliated voters.

    Nearly half (48%) of Democratic voters think federal and state governments should be able to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications. Only 27% of all voters – including just 14% of Republicans and 18% of unaffiliated voters – favor criminal punishment of vaccine critics.

    Forty-five percent (45%) of Democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Such a policy would be opposed by a strong majority (71%) of all voters, with 78% of Republicans and 64% of unaffiliated voters saying they would Strongly Oppose putting the unvaccinated in “designated facilities.”

    – While about two-thirds (66%) of likely voters would be against governments using digital devices to track unvaccinated people to ensure that they are quarantined or socially distancing from others, 47% of Democrats favor a government tracking program for those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine.

    How far are Democrats willing to go in punishing the unvaccinated? Twenty-nine percent (29%) of Democratic voters would support temporarily removing parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine. That’s much more than twice the level of support in the rest of the electorate – seven percent (7%) of Republicans and 11% of unaffiliated voters – for such a policy.

    The survey also found that more black voters (63%) than whites (45%), Hispanics (55%) or other minorities (32%) support Biden’s vaccine mandate for government workers and employees of large companies.

    President Biden’s strongest supporters are most likely to endorse the harshest punishments against those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine. Among voters who have a Very Favorable impression of Biden, 51% are in favor of government putting the unvaccinated in “designated facilities,” and 54% favor imposing fines or prison sentences on vaccine critics. By contrast, among voters who have a Very Unfavorable view of Biden, 95% are against “designated facilities” for the unvaccinated and 93% are against criminal punishment for vaccine critics.

    As the Omicron variant of COVID-19 produces a spike in cases nationwide, about three-quarters of Americans are already vaccinated against the coronavirus, and two-thirds of those have gotten booster shots.

    Most Americans are concerned about new variants of the COVID-19 virus, but Democrats are more concerned than others, and place more trust in vaccines to protect against the disease.

    Additional information from this survey and a full demographic breakdown are available to the public as well as Platinum Members.
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 01-16-2022 at 03:01 PM.

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  9. #8
    Salt Lake City has been one of the fastest growing cities in the US and has caused the entire state to be the fastest growing state over the last decade.

    Salt Lake City has thus become very far left.

    However, if you go right outside the cities, all of the rural areas are much further right and pro-freedom. Not to mention very well armed.
    Last edited by dannno; 01-16-2022 at 03:24 PM.
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    However, if you go right outside the cities, all of the rural areas are much further right and pro-freedom. Not to mention very well armed.
    Go outside the cities? Ewwww, yuck!

    That's what the National Guard is for ...

  12. #10
    And I call for the Salt Lake City Tribune to shut the $#@! up and stop advocating for dystopian nightmares.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt4Liberty View Post
    This is my surprised face. The Mormons need to purge these neocon RINOs from their state government.
    The sad truth is that the Mormon leadership has not been doing the best job. The problem is they have this attitude from LDS scripture that people should obey their government. That is one problem I've always had with their religion, but I would love to hear a good rebuttal from Swordsmyth. The instructions to obey government was given despite the fact that it was legal to kill Mormons in Missouri - their response was to leave the state and find their own place further west.

    From what I can tell there is a very large split between leadership and most Mormons, especially those living outside of the cities. The church encourages mask wearing and vaccines, but a lot of the congregation is anti-mask and anti-vax.

    As far as the Huntsmans go, the father was pretty conservative, however he passed away in 2018. The son who ran for President is in the center, but one of the daughters is very far left.
    Last edited by dannno; 01-16-2022 at 03:57 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    COVID-19: Democratic Voters Support Harsh Measures Against Unvaccinated
    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...t_unvaccinated
    Rasmussen Reports (13 January 2022)

    [Bold emphasis added. - OB]

    While many voters have become skeptical toward the federal government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, a majority of Democrats embrace restrictive policies, including punitive measures against those who haven’t gotten the COVID-19 vaccine.

    A new Heartland Institute and Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 48% of voters favor President Joe Biden’s plan to impose a COVID-19 vaccine mandate on the employees of large companies and government agencies. That includes 33% who Strongly Favor the mandate. Forty-eight percent (48%) are opposed to Biden’s vaccine mandate, including 40% who Strongly Oppose the mandate. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    Voters are similarly divided over the federal government’s top COVID-19 expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci. Forty-five percent (45%) view Fauci favorably, including 28% who have a Very Favorable impression of him. Forty-eight percent (48%) have an unfavorable impression of Fauci, including 34% who have a Very Unfavorable view of him.

    The even split among voters is the result of deep partisan divisions. While 78% of Democratic voters support the Biden administration’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate plan, only 22% of Republicans and 41% of voters not affiliated with either major party support the vaccine mandate. And many Democrats would support even harsher measures, including fines for Americans who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine and criminal punishment for vaccine critics.

    “After two excruciatingly long years, likely voters are beginning to question the federal government’s handling of the pandemic,” said Chris Talgo, senior editor and research fellow at The Heartland Institute, which commissioned this poll. “First and foremost, likely voters are beginning to sour on Dr. Anthony Fauci, who seems to have lost credibility after countless flip-flops.”

    Talgo continued: “Moreover, almost half of likely voters oppose President Biden’s vaccine mandates, which seem less about stopping the spread of COVID-19 and more about increasing the power of the federal government. When asked about several other potential strategies, such as fining those who refuse to get vaccinated, the consensus among likely voters is that the federal government should do less, not more.”

    The survey of 1,016 U.S. Likely Voters was conducted on January 5, 2022 by the Heartland Institute and Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

    The survey found that 75% of likely Democratic voters – but only 21% of Republicans and 38% of unaffiliated voters – have a favorable opinion of Dr. Fauci. Among other findings of the survey:

    – Fifty-eight percent (58%) of voters would oppose a proposal for federal or state governments to fine Americans who choose not to get a COVID-19 vaccine. However, 55% of Democratic voters would support such a proposal, compared to just 19% of Republicans and 25% of unaffiliated voters.

    Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Democratic voters would favor a government policy requiring that citizens remain confined to their homes at all times, except for emergencies, if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Such a proposal is opposed by 61% of all likely voters, including 79% of Republicans and 71% of unaffiliated voters.

    Nearly half (48%) of Democratic voters think federal and state governments should be able to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications. Only 27% of all voters – including just 14% of Republicans and 18% of unaffiliated voters – favor criminal punishment of vaccine critics.

    Forty-five percent (45%) of Democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Such a policy would be opposed by a strong majority (71%) of all voters, with 78% of Republicans and 64% of unaffiliated voters saying they would Strongly Oppose putting the unvaccinated in “designated facilities.”

    – While about two-thirds (66%) of likely voters would be against governments using digital devices to track unvaccinated people to ensure that they are quarantined or socially distancing from others, 47% of Democrats favor a government tracking program for those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine.

    How far are Democrats willing to go in punishing the unvaccinated? Twenty-nine percent (29%) of Democratic voters would support temporarily removing parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine. That’s much more than twice the level of support in the rest of the electorate – seven percent (7%) of Republicans and 11% of unaffiliated voters – for such a policy.

    The survey also found that more black voters (63%) than whites (45%), Hispanics (55%) or other minorities (32%) support Biden’s vaccine mandate for government workers and employees of large companies.

    President Biden’s strongest supporters are most likely to endorse the harshest punishments against those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine. Among voters who have a Very Favorable impression of Biden, 51% are in favor of government putting the unvaccinated in “designated facilities,” and 54% favor imposing fines or prison sentences on vaccine critics. By contrast, among voters who have a Very Unfavorable view of Biden, 95% are against “designated facilities” for the unvaccinated and 93% are against criminal punishment for vaccine critics.

    As the Omicron variant of COVID-19 produces a spike in cases nationwide, about three-quarters of Americans are already vaccinated against the coronavirus, and two-thirds of those have gotten booster shots.

    Most Americans are concerned about new variants of the COVID-19 virus, but Democrats are more concerned than others, and place more trust in vaccines to protect against the disease.

    Additional information from this survey and a full demographic breakdown are available to the public as well as Platinum Members.
    And this is why there can be no peaceful resolve with the exception of separation.

  15. #13
    Is Romney involved w: church leadership ?

    His siding w/ Fauci last week was terrible

    Plus he was pushing Pfizerís latest Covid drug

    Did have a good point in they need to get data on virus in real time
    Last edited by vita3; 01-16-2022 at 04:31 PM.

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    [B] – Fifty-eight percent (58%) of voters would oppose a proposal for federal or state governments to fine Americans who choose not to get a COVID-19 vaccine. However, 55% of Democratic voters would support such a proposal, compared to just 19% of Republicans and 25% of unaffiliated voters.

    Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Democratic voters would favor a government policy requiring that citizens remain confined to their homes at all times, except for emergencies, if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Such a proposal is opposed by 61% of all likely voters, including 79% of Republicans and 71% of unaffiliated voters.

    Nearly half (48%) of Democratic voters think federal and state governments should be able to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications. Only 27% of all voters – including just 14% of Republicans and 18% of unaffiliated voters – favor criminal punishment of vaccine critics.

    Forty-five percent (45%) of Democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Such a policy would be opposed by a strong majority (71%) of all voters, with 78% of Republicans and 64% of unaffiliated voters saying they would Strongly Oppose putting the unvaccinated in “designated facilities.”

    – While about two-thirds (66%) of likely voters would be against governments using digital devices to track unvaccinated people to ensure that they are quarantined or socially distancing from others, 47% of Democrats favor a government tracking program for those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine.

    How far are Democrats willing to go in punishing the unvaccinated? Twenty-nine percent (29%) of Democratic voters would support temporarily removing parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine. That’s much more than twice the level of support in the rest of the electorate – seven percent (7%) of Republicans and 11% of unaffiliated voters – for such a policy.

    The survey also found that more black voters (63%) than whites (45%), Hispanics (55%) or other minorities (32%) support Biden’s vaccine mandate for government workers and employees of large companies.

    President Biden’s strongest supporters are most likely to endorse the harshest punishments against those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine. Among voters who have a Very Favorable impression of Biden, 51% are in favor of government putting the unvaccinated in “designated facilities,” and 54% favor imposing fines or prison sentences on vaccine critics. By contrast, among voters who have a Very Unfavorable view of Biden, 95% are against “designated facilities” for the unvaccinated and 93% are against criminal punishment for vaccine critics.
    And there's your enemy.

    I will no longer entertain any nonsense about "reaching out", "educating", "crossing partisan divides" or other such bull$#@!.

    These people want me dead, or in a prison camp.

    This is a fight for survival.
    "Truly, whoever can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    And this is why there can be no peaceful resolve with the exception of separation.
    Owe you a rep.

    For the love of all that's holy, separation now, before we end up slaughtering each other.
    "Truly, whoever can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And there's your enemy.

    I will no longer entertain any nonsense about "reaching out", "educating", "crossing partisan divides" or other such bull$#@!.

    These people want me dead, or in a prison camp.

    This is a fight for survival.
    Oh come on. People are moving here from all over. Learn Swahili, Haitian French, Spanish, and 20 other languages. Go to their public housing and preach the gospel of liberty. This is a golden opportunity. In the last 50 years, we've almost made a step in the right directions after 3,000 in the wrong. Don't give up now.
    ...



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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Is Romney involved w: church leadership ?
    Officially, not sure, but unofficially I would guess he is in deep.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  21. #18
    From my limited research of the Salt Lake City Tribune I've come to this conclusion. I don't care what they have to say. In 2004 they endorsed Bush in 2008 and 2012 Obama, and in 2016 they endorsed Clinton.

  22. #19
    Utah is full of pussies . It'll be the second colorado soon , new califotnia . I'd avoid those for Idaho , Wyoming , Montana and the Dakatas if you plan to live out west.
    Do something Danke

  23. #20
    No.

    Fascinating that this is even a thing in 2022.

    Who are the fascists again? I'm losing track.
    Welcome to the R3VOLUTION!

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Utah is full of pussies . It'll be the second colorado soon , new califotnia . I'd avoid those for Idaho , Wyoming , Montana and the Dakatas if you plan to live out west.
    Yea, CAers have been moving into a couple of those states.

    I really think the south and SW will be the focal points of liberty types. The West coast is gone. The East coast is gone. The states around Michigan/Minnesota/IL/WI are gone. And now some of these western states will likely be flipping soon.
    New Hampshire and their FSP are just right in the middle of the leftist New England political power structure. I could see it being eaten up over time.
    Welcome to the R3VOLUTION!

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    COVID-19: Democratic Voters Support Harsh Measures Against Unvaccinated
    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...t_unvaccinated
    Rasmussen Reports (13 January 2022)

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  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Utah is full of pussies . It'll be the second colorado soon , new califotnia . I'd avoid those for Idaho , Wyoming , Montana and the Dakatas if you plan to live out west.
    Actually, Utah is one of the freer states right now- things like masks etc are a choice not a demand. The SL Tribune is a very leftist paper & most real conservatives in Utah see it as the crap it is.
    There is no spoon.

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Actually, Utah is one of the freer states right now- things like masks etc are a choice not a demand. The SL Tribune is a very leftist paper & most real conservatives in Utah see it as the crap it is.
    Salt Lake County has an indoor mask mandate currently, but SLC is super leftist now.. You are right tho, the rest of the state is polar opposite.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Salt Lake County has an indoor mask mandate currently, but SLC is super leftist now.. You are right tho, the rest of the state is polar opposite.
    Hmm, those city-states are looking better and better now...
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