Can't buy food in Israel without "green pass"

[ClaytonB]

[Sammy]

Israel was always a sick Country.....

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

Time for a functioning blackmarket.

[acptulsa]

Congratulations! You escaped from Nazi Germany and made it to Nazi Israel!

[Sammy]

Congratulations! You escaped from Nazi Germany and made it to Nazi Israel!

Well Israel was created by National Bolsheviks.

[acptulsa]

Well Israel was created by National Bolsheviks.

And they're old hands at starving people.

[pcosmar]

interesting that it starts where the Antichrist will reign from.

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

[donnay]

Ecclesiastes 1:9
“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.”

[ClaytonB]

interesting that it starts where the Antichrist will reign from.

^^^ This man gets it...

[acptulsa]

interesting that it starts where the Antichrist will reign from.

I still don't know how so many people can read that book and come away saying, "Give Israel anything it wants." Christians got played.

[Theocrat]

I still don't know how so many people can read that book and come away saying, "Give Israel anything it wants." Christians got played.

It's because far too many people separate Israel from the Church. They're both the same entity, which means that anyone who trusts and follows Christ is of Israel. The "Christians who get played" are those who bifurcate those identities.

[pcosmar]

It's because far too many people separate Israel from the Church. They're both the same entity, which means that anyone who trusts and follows Christ is of Israel. The "Christians who get played" are those who bifurcate those identities.

And I accept that as Truth,, However,

The STATE if Israel is NOT the Israel of the Bible..

Entirely opposite entities.

[ClaytonB]

And I accept that as Truth,, However,

The STATE if Israel is NOT the Israel of the Bible..

Entirely opposite entities.

This comment wins the thread!

[Theocrat]

And I accept that as Truth,, However,

The STATE if Israel is NOT the Israel of the Bible..

Entirely opposite entities.

I can't argue with that.

[pcosmar]

I can't argue with that.

Cool,, I was cured of the "Israel First"mentality some years ago,, but I do remember arguing that position,

it is common.

[Intrepid]

I still don't know how so many people can read that book and come away saying, "Give Israel anything it wants." Christians got played.

It's because the god that chose the Israelites as his people is Yahweh, the Canaanite god of war. Yahweh is NOT the god of Abraham... Abraham worshipped God Almighty, the God of all gods.

[ClaytonB]

It's because the god that chose the Israelites as his people is Yahweh, the Canaanite god of war. Yahweh is NOT the god of Abraham... Abraham worshipped God Almighty, the God of all gods.

[Intrepid]

All you have to do is read the Old Testament.

Approach it like you're reading a history book, and put your religious beliefs aside. You can pick them back up later.

[ClaytonB]

All you have to do is read the Old Testament.

Approach it like you're reading a history book, and put your religious beliefs aside. You can pick them back up later.

I've read it inside and out. Forward and backward. From a standpoint of strong faith, and from a standpoint of weak faith. The modern attempt to "scholarize" the Bible into oblivion isn't going to work. Some of the original academics in the higher criticism were believers and they wanted to push biblical scholarship onto a more solid footing, to grapple with the increasingly sophisticated objections being raised by secular academia. But then it turned into a project to accomplish the very task of advancing those secular objections, instead. Today's "skeptics" are just the most recent generation of higher criticism. And they're so far off the map that they don't even understand that they have literally started their own religion, which is really Gnosticism that has been re-worded and re-founded on empty "scientific" labels.

The Old Testament was never meant to be a "history book". Both the atheists and the (shockingly materialistic) fundamentalists err equally in this area. The six days of labor and one day of rest in the Creation account isn't talking about 24-hour earth rotations. That's not at all what is in view. And the famous Ussher chronology which supposedly tells us that the world is 6,000 years old, is absurd and completely fails to understand what Genesis is about. Genesis is not trying to tell us the entire chronological record of the material world; that is simply not what is in view, nor is it something that would even occur to the writer of Genesis as something worth thinking about. The point is that God is the Creator, not only of the material world (of whatever age it may be, only God can know such things with certainty), but also of the intangible world (the heavens/shamayim).

The larger lesson here is that the material world does not define or circumscribe "existence". This should be obvious from metaphysical contemplation, but the fact that we are immersed in the material world (except for dreams) makes it difficult to keep this in our awareness. The Bible is not about the material creation. It's about the entire creation (heaven and earth) and, most importantly, God's relationship to it.

[Intrepid]

I've read it inside and out. Forward and backward. From a standpoint of strong faith, and from a standpoint of weak faith. The modern attempt to "scholarize" the Bible into oblivion isn't going to work. Some of the original academics in the higher criticism were believers and they wanted to push biblical scholarship onto a more solid footing, to grapple with the increasingly sophisticated objections being raised by secular academia. But then it turned into a project to accomplish the very task of advancing those secular objections, instead. Today's "skeptics" are just the most recent generation of higher criticism. And they're so far off the map that they don't even understand that they have literally started their own religion, which is really Gnosticism that has been re-worded and re-founded on empty "scientific" labels.

The Old Testament was never meant to be a "history book". Both the atheists and the (shockingly materialistic) fundamentalists err equally in this area. The six days of labor and one day of rest in the Creation account isn't talking about 24-hour earth rotations. That's not at all what is in view. And the famous Ussher chronology which supposedly tells us that the world is 6,000 years old, is absurd and completely fails to understand what Genesis is about. Genesis is not trying to tell us the entire chronological record of the material world; that is simply not what is in view, nor is it something that would even occur to the writer of Genesis as something worth thinking about. The point is that God is the Creator, not only of the material world (of whatever age it may be, only God can know such things with certainty), but also of the intangible world (the heavens/shamayim).

The larger lesson here is that the material world does not define or circumscribe "existence". This should be obvious from metaphysical contemplation, but the fact that we are immersed in the material world (except for dreams) makes it difficult to keep this in our awareness. The Bible is not about the material creation. It's about the entire creation (heaven and earth) and, most importantly, God's relationship to it.

Did somebody say word salad?

omg I wasn't talking about the creation story.

[ClaytonB]

Did somebody say word salad?

omg I wasn't talking about the creation story.

It's an example. And no, I'm not making word salad. "Yahweh is not the God of Abraham" is, indeed, word-salad.

[isabellaiss]

I think it is stupid