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    Candace Owens interviews President Trump



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    Cat fight! Rowrrrrr.....








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    Always fun to see a McMeltdown.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    I can't believe a stubborn personality would continue to back one of his signature achievements while in office. Totally unpredictable and unforgiveable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by familydog View Post
    I can't believe a stubborn personality would continue to back one of his signature achievements while in office. Totally unpredictable and unforgiveable.
    LOL

    Well, he is getting forgiven for it. Just by fewer of his fans each time he doubles down, because he has fewer left.

    But he's making replacement fans. Meghan McCain, for one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    LOL

    Well, he is getting forgiven for it. Just by fewer of his fans each time he doubles down, because he has fewer left.

    But he's making replacement fans. Meghan McCain, for one.
    Trump is extremely well liked and respected by his base. If he runs again, he might get 95% of the primary vote.



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    Quote Originally Posted by familydog View Post
    Trump is extremely well liked and respected by his base. If he runs again, he might get 95% of the primary vote.
    His base is a ridiculously forgiving and selectively blind ship of fools. If they weren't, the country wouldn't be in this mess.

    Their fathers stood by Nixon, for the love of God.
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    It would be interesting to lock them in a room, play this video over and over, and see how long it takes it to get through their wall of denial.

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Here's a recording of the same speech with much better audio quality:

    (Also, $#@! YouTube.)

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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Trump is a former Democrat, was wrong to endorse McCain and Romney for re-election and will likely always support vaccines regardless of how many people are hurt by them.

    Trump is also the only president that I know of that goes against the one class establishment of globalists that want to destroy America.

    I believe the term is Mixed Bag.

    I am looking for allies that want to defend the Alamo form the Marxist hoard. I am good with both Candace Owens and Donald J. Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Trump is a former Democrat, was wrong to endorse McCain and Romney for re-election and will likely always support vaccines regardless of how many people are hurt by them.

    Trump is also the only president that I know of that goes against the one class establishment of globalists that want to destroy America.

    I believe the term is Mixed Bag.

    I am looking for allies that want to defend the Alamo form the Marxist hoard. I am good with both Candace Owens and Donald J. Trump.
    Yeah. Like that. Good example.

    And Nixon was still a law and order guy in the hearts and minds of this base five years later. Then this happened:

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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    You think this is bad? Just wait until the eventual medical fallout that results from these vaccines. Trump is setting himself up to be the fall guy for all of it.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by familydog View Post
    Trump is extremely well liked and respected by his base. If he runs again, he might get 95% of the primary vote.
    He won't be able to run again once he takes the fall for the medical fallout that we all know is coming. Once that happens, his reputation will be completely destroyed. If he was smart, he would promote 24/7 that these vaccines should not be made mandatory/forced/compulsory, children should not be getting these vaccines, and promote monoclonal antibodies,HCQ, ivermectin, while also promoting a healthy lifestyle by exercising, get plenty of vitamin D, Zinc, getting fresh air, and sunshine.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 12-24-2021 at 10:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    You think this is bad? Just wait until the eventual medical fallout that results from these vaccines. Trump is setting himself up to be the fall guy for all of it.
    There is not going to be a fall guy. The Establishment has embraced the jab. That's it. It doesn't matter how many people do or do not die from it, at this point.

    No one took the fall for Viet Nam. No one took the fall for Agent Orange. No one took the fall for Afghanistan, for Syria, for Yemen, for Libya, for servers, for grifting, for Ukraine... THEY NEVER TAKE THE FALL.

    I can't believe people still think there is going to be some kind of fall out for COVID, or for the vax, or for ANYTHING. THEY NEVER are held to account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    His base is a ridiculously forgiving and selectively blind ship of fools. If they weren't, the country wouldn't be in this mess.
    Meh. His base are good people who can be persuaded. Unlike the left.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    He won't be able to run again once he takes the fall for the medical fallout that we all know is coming. Once that happens, his reputation will be completely destroyed. If he was smart, he would promote 24/7 that these vaccines should not be made mandatory/forced/compulsory, children should not be getting these vaccines, and promote monoclonal antibodies,HCQ, ivermectin, while also promoting a healthy lifestyle by exercising, get plenty of vitamin D, Zinc, getting fresh air, and sunshine.
    Trump has been getting booed at events all year for his stance on the jabs. Yet his base remains. As long as he is against mandates, he will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Yeah. Like that. Good example.

    And Nixon was still a law and order guy in the hearts and minds of this base five years later. Then this happened:

    I am just observing reality. Ron Paul never got close to the presidency. Neither did Harry Browne. I would have been happy to have a president Badnarik, but he wasn't even allowed in the debates. Dealing with reality, to me means pushing the GOP more towards liberty and away from Neo-conservatism.

    I certainly am no fan of Nixon. Neither was my devout Democrat father. My dad hates Trump and defends Biden at every turn. As a former Democrat myself, I have thoroughly examined both sides of the coin and have decided to follow Ron Paul's advice.

    Dr. Paul is the reason I changed my registration from Libertarian to Republican and I don't regret that, even though the GOP is largely corrupt establishment globalists in bed with the Democrats.

    From my point of view, the only chance of defeating the Bolsheviks is to find allies in the GOP and restore the Republican party back to the roots of liberty.

    I can't imagine that you don't recognize the Libertarian party as a waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Trump is a former Democrat, was wrong to endorse McCain and Romney for re-election and will likely always support vaccines regardless of how many people are hurt by them.

    Trump is also the only president that I know of that goes against the one class establishment of globalists that want to destroy America.

    I believe the term is Mixed Bag.

    I am looking for allies that want to defend the Alamo form the Marxist hoard. I am good with both Candace Owens and Donald J. Trump.
    They are all on the same side including him. What you see is just a fake opposition show for your benefit. Trump is close with the establishment globalists that want to destroy America. I do not believe he cares about this country and rather his priority is his family name/dynasty, their financial interests, power and winning.

    If Hillary Clinton was not a factor in 2016 and he had an opening long prior to the election to run as Democrat and promote their values he would have. He had even said this himself publicly in the past that running as Democrat was not feasible due to the Clinton's stranglehold on the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by familydog View Post
    Trump has been getting booed at events all year for his stance on the jabs. Yet his base remains. As long as he is against mandates, he will be fine.
    This is true.



    I'll admit it is kind of weird to see supporters who won't follow lock-step with Trump. They will go out in droves to see him but there are lines they won't cross. Almost as if it isn't an all-or-nothing crowd. And Trump is a populist candidate. It's really up to the people to decide what the populist issue is, and vaccine choice seems to be at the top of the list (edit: at least among republicans, the left is well, sort of a lost cause).

    Also seeing similar situation here in Georgia where Trump has endorsed David Perdue for governor but doesn't seem to be carrying much weight. The primaries will be interesting for sure.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I am just observing reality. Ron Paul never got close to the presidency. Neither did Harry Browne.
    No, I get it. You actually think Trump was a lesser evil.

    He wasn't.

    We ran out of lesser evils long ago.

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    And Trump is a populist candidate. It's really up to the people to decide what the populist issue is, and vaccine choice seems to be at the top of the list
    The populist candidate who wants to tell people what to do.

    What a boon. What a treasure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    They are all on the same side including him. What you see is just a fake opposition show for your benefit. Trump is close with the establishment globalists that want to destroy America. I do not believe he cares about this country and rather his priority is his family name/dynasty, their financial interests, power and winning.

    If Hillary Clinton was not a factor in 2016 and he had an opening long prior to the election to run as Democrat and promote their values he would have. He had even said this himself publicly in the past that running as Democrat was not feasible due to the Clinton's stranglehold on the party.
    I disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    No, I get it. You actually think Trump was a lesser evil.

    He wasn't.

    We ran out of lesser evils long ago.
    No, you don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    No, you don't get it.
    You're right. Been watching Republicans sell their principles for a handful of charisma all my life. I don't get it at all.

    Most people stop shooting themselves in the foot sooner or later.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You're right. Been watching Republicans sell their principles for a handful of charisma all my life. I don't get it at all.

    Most people stop shooting themselves in the foot sooner or later.
    When you talk about Republicans, I'm not who you are referring to, voters, politicians or both.

    I certainly don't see much charisma coming from Republican politicians. Trump is an abrasive New York ass. Romney is a plastic doll with no ability to connect with people. McCain was an angry a-hole and Bush was a dumb ass. You could argue that Reagan had charisma but I don't think that is why he beat Carter. I don't see it.
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    It is voters falling for charisma and the news media telling you voters love ____ candidate. When the elites news media keeps telling you voters love _____, voters through conditioning will love ____ candidate. The elite news media is the enemy of the people.

    The establishment ultimately decides which candidates are promoted to the people, allowed to run in the primaries and who is allowed to win the primaries. You have the illusion of choice.
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    I predicted this would happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post

    The populist candidate who wants to tell people what to do.

    What a boon. What a treasure.
    I wasn't really building Trump up to be a 'treasure'. Just reminding people that candidates aren't as important as causes.

    I hope he continues to be booed whenever he speaks favorably of the vaccine. But that is a testament to the fact that his supporters are not the mindless lemmings that they are painted as.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    I'll admit it is kind of weird to see supporters who won't follow lock-step with Trump. They will go out in droves to see him but there are lines they won't cross. Almost as if it isn't an all-or-nothing crowd. And Trump is a populist candidate. It's really up to the people to decide what the populist issue is, and vaccine choice seems to be at the top of the list (edit: at least among republicans, the left is well, sort of a lost cause).
    The crowd boos because they hear it direct and unfiltered from Trump, but later they and the rest of the MAGA faithful will turn to their usual set of prophets and interpreters who will dutifully explain why it doesn't really matter or how he doesn't really mean it or that it's actually 32DD chess.

    Every thread about it has been faithfully downvoted and slid far down .win where no one will ever have to see it and experience the discomfort of cognitive dissonance.
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