A discussion I've not heard yet

[tod evans]

Humans have endured viruses for eternity, it's only over the last several decades that humans have moved to vaccination as an attempt to avoid the effects viruses produce before the genome develops immunity naturally.

By trying to develop immunity pre-infection with either an immunization or some man-made alternative are we as a species doing irreversible damage to our immune system?

Certainly repeated introduction of laboratory made genome splices will have unknown effects.

Government and their propaganda arm are pushing the injection of man-made genome splicing at a surprising frequency yet the very people who refuse to eat genetically modified foods are lining up in droves to genetically modify themselves.

As a simple but warry ol' Hillbilly I've gotta look on with heavy skepticism.

In the end, for me, it boils down to I don't trust government to have my best interest at heart.

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

Stop that conspiracy BS and just follow the science!

[jkr]

PLAUGE RAT!

[Anti Globalist]

Certainly won't be hearing this discussion on MSM anytime soon.

[acptulsa]

Traditional vaccines are not unnatural, provided they aren't full of mercury and whatnot. It's just dead germs. They don't do your immune system any harm at all.

One aspect of Teh Science™ is it completely conflates vaccines and immune systems. I have repeatedly pointed out online that vaccine or no vaccine, nutrition is still more than half the battle. This is the only place I haven't been innundated with trolls denying this obvious truth. Vitamin C, poultry soup, proper nutrition in general give the immune system the tools it needs to fight. These are the sheriff's guns, bullets, horse, lasso, and gives him the strength to track over many a rugged mile. All a vaccine is is a wanted poster. That's all. It only tells your immune system, when you see this, fight first and ask questions later. That's all. Your immune system must still be fit to fight, or the wanted poster accomplishes nothing.

As for "vaccines" using graphene nanotubes as artificial spike "proteins" (carbon and more carbon is not a protein) and full of God knows what, on the other hand, who knows? The press who daily, hourly chant the "safe and effective" tagline don't know what's in there. The politicians trying to mandate this crap don't know what's in there. Could it harm the immune system? As long as we get the mushroom treatment, as long as we're in the dark and being fed manure, how can we know? Anything could be in those spiky nanotubes but a '58 Buick, and as we look around the earth at the long, long list of stuff that could fit in a nanotube, we find that several of them could indeed compromise an immune system.

All I know is, what's in those artificial spike proteins isn't the cold, because the cold has real spike proteins. It doesn't require nanotubes to get into your cells. So how it helps your immune system identify the cold I don't know. And judging by how poorly they work, I'd say they don't help your immune system identify it at all.

[ClaytonB]

What we are told about how infection works, is itself false:

https://banned.video/watch?id=60a8280ab72e4b4268fa84ba

We all probably already have the COVIDs, HIV and anything else you could name inside of us. Whether that is an active infection is an entirely separate question.

It's completely random that these same names just keep popping up. I invested the time and watched this entire interview (way before COVID), well worth your time!:

[CaptUSA]

Humans have endured viruses for eternity, it's only over the last several decades that humans have moved to vaccination as an attempt to avoid the effects viruses produce before the genome develops immunity naturally.

By trying to develop immunity pre-infection with either an immunization or some man-made alternative are we as a species doing irreversible damage to our immune system?

Certainly repeated introduction of laboratory made genome splices will have unknown effects.

Government and their propaganda arm are pushing the injection of man-made genome splicing at a surprising frequency yet the very people who refuse to eat genetically modified foods are lining up in droves to genetically modify themselves.

As a simple but warry ol' Hillbilly I've gotta look on with heavy skepticism.

In the end, for me, it boils down to I don't trust government to have my best interest at heart.

There is so much we don't understand about viruses. Hell, scientists can't even agree if viruses meet the definition of a living being. What we do know is that they transmit information. We also know that sometimes that information is valuable to life. Not all viruses are bad. In fact, even viruses with high death rates may not be "bad" - it's just that a large percentage of our bodies haven't figured out how to process the new information yet.

One thing is for sure... Messing around with things we don't fully understand is a recipe for danger. Whether creating new viruses or trying to genetically sequence blockers to prevent transmission. As @acptulsa said, the previous method of taking weakened viruses and infecting people to trigger an immune response still allowed for transmission of (potentially) vital information. We're in new and unknown territory now.

[RJB]

Government and their propaganda arm are pushing the injection of man-made genome splicing at a surprising frequency yet the very people who refuse to eat genetically modified foods are lining up in droves to genetically modify themselves.

The people I subletted from for 11 years are acupuncturists. One of them doesn't even use shampoo because of foreign chemicals. These two paragons (or parody) of natural health wanted me to shoot up with the Fauci Koolaid. It turned out good. I took a heavy financial hit, but I am in a much better place with much better people. The acupuncturists lost a tenant who was never late on rent payments for 11 years. dumbasses.

As a simple but warry ol' Hillbilly I've gotta look on with heavy skepticism.

I used to look for sticking with an intricate political philosophy, but older I get, the more I think your statement is all that matters. Leave me alone, and we'll get along fine. The problem is that there are too many people who dont want to leave me alone.

[acptulsa]

I used to look for sticking with an intricate political philosophy, but older I get, the more I think your statement is all that matters. Leave me alone, and we'll get along fine. The problem is that there are too many people who dont want to leave me alone.

The reason arrogant tinpot dictators don't get shot the moment they pose a threat is that some odd half the population is arrogant tinpot dictators.

[phill4paul]

The people I subletted from for 11 years are acupuncturists. One of them doesn't even use shampoo because of foreign chemicals. These two paragons (or parody) of natural health wanted me to shoot up with the Fauci Koolaid. It turn out good. I took a heavy financial hit, but I am in a much better place with much better people. The acupuncturists lost a tenant who was never late on rent payments for 11 years. dumbasses.

That's $#@!ing insane.

[acptulsa]

That's $#@!ing insane.

Listening to the government over and over and expecting to hear the truth this time?

It's practically the definition of insanity.

[pcosmar]

It started with a Psyop, to confuse the difference between a Cold and the Flu.

and for 2 years the Psyop Monkeys have been flinging Poo.