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    Student Kills 3, Wounds 6 at Michigan School

    https://www.breitbart.com/news/autho...chigan-school/

    30 Nov 2021

    OXFORD TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) — A 15-year-old sophomore opened fire at his Michigan high school on Tuesday, killing three students and wounding six other people, including a teacher, authorities said.

    Oakland County Undersheriff Mike McCabe said at a news conference that he didn’t know what the assailant’s motives were for the attack at Oxford High School in Oxford Township, a community of about 22,000 people roughly 30 miles (48 kilometers) north of Detroit.

    Officers responded at around 12:55 p.m. to a flood of 911 calls about an active shooter at the school, McCabe said. Authorities arrested the suspect at the school and recovered a semi-automatic handgun and several clips.

    “Deputies confronted him, he had the weapon on him, they took him into custody,” McCabe said, adding that suspect wasn’t hurt when he was taken into custody and he refused to say how he got the gun into the school.

    Authorities didn’t immediately release the names of the suspect or victims. About 1,700 students attend the school.

    Tim Throne, the superintendent of Oxford Community Schools, said he didn’t know yet know the victims’ names or whether their families had been contacted.

    “I’m shocked. It’s devastating,” the shaken superintendent told reporters.

    The school was placed on lockdown after the attack, with some children sheltering in locked classrooms while officers searched the premises. They were later taken to a nearby Meijer grocery store to be picked up by their parents.

    Isabel Flores told WJBK-TV that she and other students heard gunshots and saw another student bleeding from the face.

    They then ran from the area through the rear of the school, said Flores, a 15-year-old ninth grader.

    McCabe said investigators would be looking through social media posts for any evidence of a possible motive.

    Robin Redding said her son, Treshan Bryant, is a 12th grader at the school but stayed home on Tuesday. She said he had heard threats of a shooting at the school.

    “This couldn’t be just random,” she said.

    Redding didn’t provide specifics about what her son had heard, but she expressed concern with school safety in general.

    “Kids just, like they’re just mad at each other at this school,” she said.

    Bryant said he texted several younger cousins in the morning and they said they didn’t want to go to school, and he got a bad feeling. He asked his mom if he could do his assignments online.

    Bryant said he had heard vague threats “for a long time now” about plans for a shooting at the school.

    “You’re not supposed to play about that,” he said of the threats. “This is real life.”

    School administrators posted two letters to parents on the school’s website this month, saying they were responding to rumors of a threat against the school following a bizarre vandalism incident.

    According to a Nov. 4 letter written by Principal Steve Wolf, someone threw a dear head into a courtyard from the school’s roof, painted several windows on the roof with red acrylic paint and used the same paint on concrete near the school building.

    Without specifically referencing that incident, a second post on Nov. 12 assured “there has been no threat to our building nor our students.”

    “We are aware of the numerous rumors that have been circulating throughout our building this week. We understand that has created some concern for students and parents,” the administrators wrote. “Please know that we have reviewed every concern shared with us and investigated all information provided. Some rumors have evolved from an incident last week, while others do not appear to have any connection. Student interpretations of social media posts and false information have exacerbated the overall concern.”

    Michigan’s governor, Gretchen Whitmer, was one of several elected officials who expressed condolences to the victims.

    “Gun violence is a public health crisis that claims lives every day. We have the tools to reduce gun violence in Michigan. This is a time for us to come together and help our children feel safe at school,” Whitmer said in a statement.
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    Robin Redding said her son, Treshan Bryant, is a 12th grader at the school but stayed home on Tuesday. She said he had heard threats of a shooting at the school.
    It sounds like a lot people knew this was coming.
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    Gun violence is Government schools are a public health crisis [...]” Whitmer said in a statement.
    Fixed it for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It sounds like a lot people knew this was coming.
    Including the staff.

    Without specifically referencing that incident, a second post on Nov. 12 assured “there has been no threat to our building nor our students.”

    “We are aware of the numerous rumors that have been circulating throughout our building this week. We understand that has created some concern for students and parents,” the administrators wrote. “Please know that we have reviewed every concern shared with us and investigated all information provided. Some rumors have evolved from an incident last week, while others do not appear to have any connection. Student interpretations of social media posts and false information have exacerbated the overall concern.”
    Nice of them to fact check the warning signs and declare them "false" and "exacerbated".
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    “Deputies confronted him, he had the weapon on him, they took him into custody,” McCabe said, adding that suspect wasn’t hurt when he was taken into custody and he refused to say how he got the gun into the school.
    The "gun free zone" didn't work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The "gun free zone" didn't work?
    The fines weren't steep enough to be an effective deterrent.
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    Sounds like this community could use some more Midnight Basketball.

    It solves everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    According to a Nov. 4 letter written by Principal Steve Wolf, someone threw a dear head into a courtyard from the school’s roof, painted several windows on the roof with red acrylic paint and used the same paint on concrete near the school building.
    .
    Wait - what?!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The "gun free zone" didn't work?
    There was a sign but he took a different entrance.

    🤷

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Wait - what?!!
    Yeah, was wondering about this as well.

    So far things are pretty quiet, which suggests a number of things...I'm waiting to see where this goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    There was a sign but he took a different entrance.

    ��
    Yeah, if it's not properly posted a gun might walk right in and never know it's not welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yeah, was wondering about this as well.

    So far things are pretty quiet, which suggests a number of things...I'm waiting to see where this goes.
    You talk the way you always talk when you decide the culprit might be Amish.

    He's just trying to figure out whose sweetheart got decapitated.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 12-01-2021 at 08:42 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Wait - what?!!



    people watch too much tell lie vision
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    people watch too much tell lie vision
    It said "dear" head... Not "deer" head.

    So my question is whose dear head was it??!
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    I'm sure the government had a role to play in this shooting.
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    and recovered a semi-automatic handgun and several clips.
    lol

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    Apparently the shooter was some nerdy looking white kid.

    If true - kinda shocked the media isn't going hog wild with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    It said "dear" head... Not "deer" head.

    So my question is whose dear head was it??!
    Hah ha ha LOL...I'm sure that's a typo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Apparently the shooter was some nerdy looking white kid.

    If true - kinda shocked the media isn't going hog wild with it
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Apparently the shooter was some nerdy looking white kid.

    If true - kinda shocked the media isn't going hog wild with it
    Comparisons to Rittenhouse yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yeah, was wondering about this as well.

    So far things are pretty quiet, which suggests a number of things...I'm waiting to see where this goes.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Apparently the shooter was some nerdy looking white kid.

    If true - kinda shocked the media isn't going hog wild with it
    They are saying the perp was bullied at school. The media have to find out if he was LGBTQ+ before they decide how to report on it.
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    I think that just in recent years the media has started deliberately refraining from focusing a lot of attention on the identities of school shooters, since it was clear that a lot of school shooters have been partially motivated by the notoriety that they had seen previous school shooters get.
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    Official: Michigan boy discussed killing students in video
    https://apnews.com/article/shootings...c7e8da88e3c33d
    Corey Williams & Ed White (01 December 2021)

    OXFORD TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) — Authorities say a 15-year-old boy charged in a shooting at a Michigan high school recorded video night before violence in which he discussed killing students.

    The revelation was made by Oakland County Sheriff’s Lt. Tim Willis during a court hearing for Ethan Crumbley.

    Crumbley is accused of killing four students and injuring seven others Tuesday at Oxford High School. He’s charged as an adult with murder, attempted murder and terrorism causing death. Willis made the comments shortly before Crumbley was to be arraigned.

    Authorities have not revealed a possible motive for the violence.

    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP’s earlier story follows below.

    OXFORD TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) — A 15-year-old boy was charged Wednesday with murder, terrorism and other crimes for a shooting that killed four fellow students and injured others at a Michigan high school.

    Oakland County prosecutor Karen McDonald did not reveal a possible motive for Tuesday’s violence at Oxford High School and declined to comment when pressed about whether she believed the victims were specifically targeted. But she said the shooting was premeditated, based in part on a “mountain of digital evidence” collected by police.

    Sheriff Mike Bouchard later told reporters that the boy’s parents had been summoned to the school before the violence. Bouchard wouldn’t discuss details of the behavior school officials were concerned about. The teen, Ethan Crumbley, who is now charged as an adult with murder, attempted murder and terrorism causing death, was in the meeting with his parents, Bouchard said.

    “There is nothing that he could have faced that would warrant senseless, absolutely brutal violence on other kids,” he said.

    Ethan Crumbley is accused of firing a semi-automatic handgun in a school hallway, roughly 30 miles (50 kilometers) north of Detroit. At least seven other people were injured. It wasn’t immediately known if Crumbley had an attorney who could comment.

    “This was not just an impulsive act,” McDonald said.

    The shooting should be a wake-up call for new gun laws in a country that has become “desensitized to school shootings,” McDonald told reporters.

    “We have to do better,” McDonald said without offering specific changes. “How many times does this have to happen? How many times?”

    The charges were announced a few hours after investigators reported that a fourth student had died.

    “What about all the children who ran, screaming, hiding under desks? ... Those are victims, too, and so are their families and so is the community. The charge of terrorism reflects that,” the prosecutor said.

    Deputies rushed to the school around lunchtime Tuesday and arrested Crumbley in a hallway within minutes of the shooting. His father bought the 9 mm Sig Sauer gun last week, according to the Oakland County sheriff.

    McDonald strongly suggested that more charges will be filed.

    “We are considering charges against both parents and we will be making a decision swiftly,” she said.

    “Owning a gun means securing it properly and locking it and keeping the ammunition separate,” she said.

    The four students who were killed were identified as 16-year-old Tate Myre, 14-year-old Hana St. Juliana, 17-year-old Madisyn Baldwin and 17-year-old Justin Shilling.

    After the attack, authorities learned of social media posts about threats of a shooting at the roughly 1,700-student school. The sheriff stressed how crucial it is for such tips to be sent to authorities, while also cautioning against spreading social media rumors before a full investigation.

    Undersheriff Mike McCabe downplayed the significance of a situation in early November when a deer’s head was thrown off the school roof, which he said was “absolutely unrelated” to the shooting. The incident prompted school administrators to post two letters to parents on the school’s website, saying they were responding to rumors of a threat against the school but had found none.

    Isabel Flores, a 15-year-old ninth grader, told Detroit television station WJBK that she and other students heard gunshots and saw another student bleeding from the face. They then ran from the area through the rear of the school, she said.

    A concerned parent, Robin Redding, said her son, 12th-grader Treshan Bryant, stayed home Tuesday after hearing threats of a possible shooting.

    “This couldn’t be just random,” she said.

    Bryant said he had heard vague threats “for a long time now” about plans for a shooting.

    At a vigil Tuesday night at LakePoint Community Church, Leeann Dersa choked back tears as she hugged friends and neighbors. Dersa has lived nearly all of her 73 years in Oxford. Her grandchildren attended the high school.

    “Scared us all something terrible. It’s awful,” Dersa said of the shooting.

    Pastor Jesse Holt said news of the shooting flooded in to him and his wife, including texts from some of the 20 to 25 students who are among the 400-member congregation.

    “Some were very scared, hiding under their desks and texting us, ‘We’re safe, we’re OK. We heard gunshots, but we’re OK.’ They were trying to calm us, at least that’s how it felt,” he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Official: Michigan boy discussed killing students in video
    https://apnews.com/article/shootings...c7e8da88e3c33d
    Corey Williams & Ed White (01 December 2021)
    ...
    A 15-year-old boy was charged Wednesday with murder, terrorism and other crimes for a shooting that killed four fellow students and injured others at a Michigan high school.
    ...
    Interesting. If the kid had just drove a car through the school running students over, it wouldn't be terrorism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Interesting. If the kid had just drove a car through the school running students over, it wouldn't be terrorism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    They are saying the perp was bullied at school. The media have to find out if he was LGBTQ+ before they decide how to report on it.
    Bingo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    I think that just in recent years the media has started deliberately refraining from focusing a lot of attention on the identities of school shooters, since it was clear that a lot of school shooters have been partially motivated by the notoriety that they had seen previous school shooters get.
    Objection: assuming facts which are not in evidence.

    As far as I'm concerned, the Marxist media organs want the chaos that waves of "copycats" would bring.

    They have never demonstrated any desire to reduce that.

    The only thing that I have seen shut them up from non stop 24/7 wailing about such incidents is when the perp clearly does not fit the (false) narrative that all mass shooters are angry racist whites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Interesting. If the kid had just drove a car through the school running students over, it wouldn't be terrorism.
    Was that black kid in Texas charged with terrorism for shooting up his school?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, the Marxist media organs want the chaos that waves of "copycats" would bring.
    Then it must have been incompetence on their parts that they bungled the chance to make this school shooter more famous this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The "gun free zone" didn't work?
    Evidently these fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Then it must have been incompetence on their parts that they bungled the chance to make this school shooter more famous this time.
    The pieces have not fallen into place yet.

    The shooter may be a weirdosexual.

    If so, he gets a pass, even if white and male.

    But they are starting to crank up the propaganda...



    GOP Sending ‘Silent Message of Endorsement’ to School Shooters

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...hool-shooters/

    AWR HAWKINS 1 Dec 2021

    Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) reacted to Tuesday’s Oxford High shooting by suggesting Republicans’ refusal to pass gun control sends a “silent message of endorsement” to school shooters.

    “It happens here in America because we choose to let it happen. We’re not unlucky. This is purposeful This is a choice made by the United States Senate to sit on our hands and do nothing,” Murphy said, addressing high profile shootings, the Hill reported .

    He went on to suggest Republicans’ opposition to gun control sends “a silent message of endorsement to would-be killers.”

    Murphy called for his Republican colleagues to “get these dangerous, military style weapons off our streets [and] out of our schools.”

    Breitbart News noted the Oxford High shooter used a handgun in this attack.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 12-01-2021 at 05:35 PM.
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