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    Exclamation Florida Surgeon General — Sorry folks, masks don’t work…

    Florida Surgeon General — Sorry folks, masks don’t work…
    https://citizenfreepress.com/breakin...sks-dont-work/


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    Government here sort of admitted from the beginning of the mask mandate that it had nothing to do with efficacy but everything with changing behaviour. Funny how different countries use different ways to mould people's behaviour and it's generally based on lies and half truths.
    "I am a bird"

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Government here sort of admitted from the beginning of the mask mandate that it had nothing to do with efficacy but everything with changing behaviour. Funny how different countries use different ways to mould people's behaviour and it's generally based on lies and half truths.
    Can you share any links about that?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    + rep, good find, donnay!


    At best, you can say that the evidence is inconclusive. There have been studies that show that masking mandates in schools can have as much as a 4% reduction in the rate of spread. That's the best they can get?? 4%?! And only in the rate of spread? Of course, those studies are anomalies and most studies show there is either no effect or a harmful effect. So no matter what they say on either side, the evidence is INCONCLUSIVE. So, anyone making policies for your children to cover their faces all day is doing so without conclusive evidence that it's doing anything.

    But no one wants to look at data if it doesn't support their preconceived narrative. Fear is a more powerful motivator than data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Florida Surgeon General — Sorry folks, masks don’t work…
    https://citizenfreepress.com/breakin...sks-dont-work/


    He's raci....oh wait. He's black. Nevermind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    He's raci....oh wait. He's black. Nevermind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    "He's another black face of white supremacy!" screeches fat, flabby, pink haired, tattooed, white lesbian Marxists.
    There are people on both ends of the political spectrum whose stereotypes he shatters.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    There are people on both ends of the political spectrum whose stereotypes he shatters.
    What I'm noticing is that black people seem to have a lower tolerance for bull $#@!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Can you share any links about that?
    Sure...

    (RIVM is the Dutch CDC)
    https://www.rivm.nl/coronavirus-covid-19/mondkapjes

    Niet-medische mondkapjes
    Waarschijnlijk helpen niet-medische mondkapjes maar beperkt bij het voorkomen van besmetting van anderen. Mondkapjes zijn dan ook geen vervanging van de hygiënemaatregelen, afstand houden, drukte vermijden en thuisblijven bij klachten. Eerder werd berekend dat een buitenproportioneel aantal mensen in de openbare ruimte een mondkapje moest dragen om één besmetting te voorkomen. Inmiddels is het aantal besmettelijke mensen in Nederland echter zodanig toegenomen, dat deze verhouding kleiner is geworden. Op korte termijn zal ook niet met zekerheid gezegd kunnen worden of niet-medische mondkapjes wel of geen meerwaarde hebben.
    My translation:
    Non-Medical masks
    Non-Medical masks likely have limited efficacy in preventing contamination of others. Masks are not a substitute for hygiene practices, distance, avoiding crowded places and staying home when having symptoms. Previously it was made known that an extraordinary amount of people in a public space would need to wear a mask in order to prevent a single infection. At this time the number of infectious people in The Netherlands has grown so big, that this ratio has become smaller. In the near future there will not be any evidence available that non-medical masks have any or no benefit.
    Enough ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Sure...

    (RIVM is the Dutch CDC)
    https://www.rivm.nl/coronavirus-covid-19/mondkapjes



    My translation:


    Enough ?
    Thanks. +rep
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Masks are nothing more than a placebo effect. They are also being used for a transhumanist agenda.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    If people stopped wearing masks, they would forget we are supposed to be having a pandemic.

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    Very few people in Florida are currently wearing masks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Very few people in Florida are currently wearing masks.
    I am in Florida now. 99% mask free. Restaurant staff 80% mask free. Dr offices 50/50 mask free. It’s been this way awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    If people stopped wearing masks, they would forget we are supposed to be having a pandemic.
    I think giving up the Tee-Vee will be harder for them than their masks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam1952 View Post
    I am in Florida now. 99% mask free. Restaurant staff 80% mask free. Dr offices 50/50 mask free. It’s been this way awhile.
    Yeah, I came down last for last winter and didn't go back. It's better here than up north.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    If people stopped wearing masks, they would forget we are supposed to be having a pandemic.
    Right... Well they replaced masks here with QR codes in able to go into a bar or restaurant or other establishments where people gather.
    Not necessary for work at the moment... But according to the government, it does not impede your freedom if you need to make an appointment to get tested (if not vaxxed), waiting for the test results in order to go out... Because the test is free. Initially they WANTED to make the test cost $$ as well but turnes out that is impeding peoples freedom?
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    Florida's top doctor refuses mask, is told to leave meeting


    MIAMI (AP) — Florida's top health official was asked to leave a meeting after refusing to wear a mask at the office of a state senator who told him she had a serious medical condition, officials have confirmed.

    Florida Senate leader Wilton Simpson, a Republican, sent a memo to senators Saturday regarding the incident at the office of Democratic state Sen. Tina Polsky, asking visitors at the building to be respectful with social interactions. Polsky, who represents parts of Broward and Palm Beach counties, had not yet made public her breast cancer diagnosis.

    Polsky told The Associated Press about the tense exchange with state Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo that was first reported by the news site Florida Politics. She said Ladapo and two aides were offered masks and asked to wear them when they arrived for the Wednesday meeting. She did not tell him she had breast cancer, but said she had a serious condition.

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says cancer patients are at a higher risk to get severely ill from COVID-19 and may not build the same immunity to vaccines.

    Ladapo had asked to meet her in Tallahassee as he seeks confirmation in the Senate after being named to the post by Gov. Ron DeSantis last month.

    “It was so shocking to me that he treated me in this manner,” Polsky said. “If he is a surgeon general for the next several years, I am really concerned about a future public health emergency and not being able to rely on him for necessary guidance and proper scientific leadership.”

    Ladapo offered to go outside, but the senator said she did not want to sit on the metal picnic tables on a warm day when her office was nice and spacious. She said she asked whether there was a reason why he couldn't wear a mask, but he wouldn't answer.

    Democrats have opposed the appointment of Ladapo, criticizing him for comments and actions related to the pandemic.

    A day into his job, Ladapo signed new rules allowing parents to decide whether their children should quarantine or stay in school after being exposed to people who tested positive for COVID-19.

    On Thursday at a press conference with DeSantis to oppose vaccine mandates, Ladapo said people were not comfortable with the vaccines because the federal government has not been open about the effectiveness and safety of the vaccines, saying there was a “concerted effort” to hide stories of people with adverse reactions.

    Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine has received the full approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, meeting high standards required for the vaccine to be considered safe. It has been administered to millions and proven to be effective against hospitalization and death. However, immunity against infection can wane over time.

    Authorities in Sweden, Denmark and Norway earlier this month suspended or discouraged the use of Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine in young people because of an increased risk of heart inflammation, a very rare side effect associated with the shot.

    Ladapo also wrote an opinion column in the Wall Street Journal saying masks have “little or no effect on respiratory virus transmission.”

    The CDC still recommends people with weakened immune systems, and those in high-transmission areas to wear masks. Studies have supported their use, with some finding that cloth masks are less effective.

    In the memo sent by Simpson, the president of the Florida senate, he said that while there's no mask mandate in the Senate, senators can request social distancing and masking within their offices.

    “It shouldn't take a cancer diagnosis for people to respect each other's level of comfort with social interactions during a pandemic,” he said. "What occurred in Senator Polsky's office was unprofessional and will not be tolerated in the Senate."

    The Florida Department of Health’s spokeswoman Weesam Khoury said the agency was not aware of any specific Senate protocol, but said it would ask members ahead of time and make necessary accommodations such as meeting through Zoom or outdoors.

    The Department of Health “will be addressing this directly with members of the Senate, rather than letting this play out publicly,” Khoury said in an email.
    https://www.wbal.com/article/538912/...-leave-meeting
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