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    Exclamation Biden Boasts Plan to Take Millions of Vehicles off Highways by Putting People on Trains

    Joe Biden Boasts Plan to Take Millions of Vehicles off Highways by Putting People on Trains

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ghways-trains/

    CHARLIE SPIERING 21 Oct 2021

    President Joe Biden revisited his love of trains during a trip to his hometown of Scranton, Pennsylvania, on Wednesday, promising to get millions of vehicles off the roads.

    “We will take literally millions of automobiles off the road,” Biden boasted, arguing that more high-speed trains like the ones constructed in China would make trains more attractive.

    If more people took trains, Biden argued, it would save millions of barrels of oil and reduce pollution.

    “This is not hyperbole; this is a fact,” he insisted. “These are facts.”

    Biden boasted $66 billion in government spending to subsidize trains in his infrastructure bill.

    “I got more money for passenger rail than the entire Amtrak system cost to begin with,” he said. “We’re going to change the nation in a big way.”

    Amtrak continues to enjoy heavy subsidies from Congress even though it has famously lost money for 50 years. Since 1971, Amtrak has cost taxpayers more than $100 billion.

    But Biden’s proposed plan sparked Amtrak to share a dream list of even more connected cities across the country by 2035.

    In Scranton, Biden spoke at length about his long history of riding Amtrak, boasting he rode the train more than two million miles while he was senator and vice president.

    “You should name half the line after me,” Biden said. “I am the most railroad guy you’re ever going to meet.”
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    They want us to be like the other nations, China for example. Public transportation.

    Yet people will still believe our politicians represent us rather than see themselves as globalists. I think the America of past is gone, not coming back. Lowered to be replaced by something that looks like the rest of the world while others come up to the same level due to our loss.. Leveling the playing field they call it.

    It is not a secret. They have been pretty vocal about this dating back over 20 years ago from what I can remember. If you are an elite you are not effected and benefit from this. It is all about what benefits them.
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    Why do I get the feeling Biden is going to be putting those who didn't take the covid "vaccine" on these trains?
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    Great , a retard with dementia whose never had a real job is setting economic policy in america . Thanks democrats .
    Do something Danke

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    China: 381 people per square mile.

    United States: 87 people per square mile.

    Yeah, Biden. The routes, train sizes and economics will all work out just exactly the same. You betcha.
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    In 2021, to travel by Anthrax from NYC to Chicago, one way, costs $122 for a coach seat, buying one week in advance, and takes 19 hours. Bear in mind that is the best time, all other trains require a change over and take 22 to 28 hours to complete the journey. A private room costs between $394 and $1397.

    https://www.amtrak.com/tickets/departure.html

    In 1938, you could travel on this:



    The New York Central's flagship train, the "20th Century Limited", generally regarded as one of the greatest trains on earth.

    Total run time in 1938 - 16 hours, three hours faster than Anthrax. (some "specials" made the run in 15 and a half hours).

    Ultra luxurious service from beginning to end. It was the 20th Century Limited that started the tradition of "rolling out the red carpet" for passengers, where everybody on these all Pullman "sleepers" were treated like royalty from boarding to departure.



    Basic cost $32.70 for a one way ticket.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 10-21-2021 at 08:45 PM.
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    Do all of these other nations with wonderful train systems allow muggings, robberies, rapes, murders, beatings, urination, defecation and unhinged insane people on those trains?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Yeah, Biden. The routes, train sizes and economics will all work out just exactly the same. You betcha.
    Oh, make no mistake, Uncle Joe wants us on trains alright.

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 10-21-2021 at 08:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Do all of these other nations with wonderful train systems allow muggings, robberies, rapes, murders, beatings, urination, defecation and unhinged insane people on those trains?
    Why no...no they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Basic cost $32.70 for a one way ticket.
    When you figure the equivalent cost in 2021 dollars it equals $636.17.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Since 1971, Amtrak has cost taxpayers more than $100 billion.
    I'm sure you're one of the six or seven people in the US who knows that if they tacked a zero on the end of that number, took that much each from the airline industry and the trucking industry, and gave it to rail companies, that would begin to make up for the multi-decade butt raping rail got from the end of WWII to about 1980 courtesy the federal government.

    Passenger rail did not die an organic death in the US.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Passenger rail did not die an organic death in the US.
    No, no it did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Passenger rail did not die an organic death in the US.
    Indeed not.

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    This has been covered on this forum before, but buried in a Hot Topics thread about a thousand pages long which seems to be no longer in the archives. So, since it does keep coming up, and since Obama likes it so much, the TSA sucks and we really should find less fuel-dependent ways to do things, I want to reprise it.

    Once upon a time, there was a thing called the Interstate Commerce Commission. It was founded to prevent kamikaze capitalism amongst railroads in a day when their efficiencies and primitive technology pretty much guaranteed them a monopoly in viable transportation.

    The best thing Reagan did, in my opinion, and the one time I felt some hope for a moment that he would prove to be the libertarian he claimed to be, was when he abolished this bureau. But it was a decade too late to save the passenger train.

    In 1970, the Santa Fe was voluntarily running very high quality passenger services between Chicago and Los Angeles, Chicago and San Francisco, Chicago and Houston via Ft. Worth and with a connecting train to Dallas, and Los Angeles to San Diego. All were daily; the San Diegan featured three daily round trips.

    The ICC was also forcing the corporation to operate daily between La Junta, Co. and Denver, and between Kansas City and Tulsa. These services were losing the railroad considerable money. But the ICC refused to let the railroad drop these unpopular services. Montana was the worst, thanks to Sen. Mike Mansfield. The Burlington Northern was forced to maintain six round trips a day between St. Paul and Seattle.

    So, rather than beat Reagan to the punch and declare the ICC redundant in a world of Interstate highways and air freight services, Nixon and his henchman Erlichman found a way to expand government instead. They bought rail from the New Haven and the collapsed Penn Central, and created Amtrak out of it. This rail runs through Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland and into the District of Columbia.

    They also took over all passenger services, and reserved unto itself the authority to run on privately owned rail. This was voluntary; 'joining up' required a massive payoff (payable at the government's option in locomotives and passenger cars) and agreement to trackage rights and such. Those that didn't join were to keep running their current schedules for ten years. No cooperation in routing, scheduling or ticketing was to be forthcoming between the holdouts and Amtrak.

    Most railroads joined. Then came the insult added to the injury. It turned out that the government wasn't willing to run many of the 'vital' services that the government wouldn't let private enterprise discontinue. So, after the Amtrak takeover, the national passenger rail network looked much as it would have looked had the government let the railroads run what was popular and drop what wasn't. But with a difference. Amtrak sucked from the first.

    So, would there be high-speed rail if Amtrak were never created? Well, Amtrak would have been created, even if the eight states that benefit most had to create it themselves. But it wouldn't have spread beyond that corridor. And I haven't heard of high-speed rail being created without government involvement in recent years. So, who knows? But it wouldn't have and won't happen(ed) out West, where medium sized cities are hundreds of miles apart. The economics aren't there.

    But what we would have, had Nixon acted like a conservative for once, and in my opinion, are a select few, very nice trains much like hotels on wheels. They would have come back into style by now, they would not only be helpful but really pleasant, and we'd like them. And I think the process could be reversed, if public interest could be kindled. The way Amtrak was equipped in the beginning could be reversed at its end. This would allow private enterprise to resume their traditions with minimal risk.

    Not Obama's high speed rail. But realistic, a good thing, and a talking point for our side.
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    'Since the pace of change wrought by new technology continues to gain speed, the gap between policy and reality widens daily despite all efforts to close it. In the modern world policy cannot possibly keep pace with change of all kinds.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Oh, make no mistake, Uncle Joe wants us on trains alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Great , a retard with dementia whose never had a real job is setting economic policy in america . Thanks democrats .
    Biden plays a role but this is a unified front. He is not single handedly doing anything. It would not have mattered which Democrat beat Trump.

    Of course the truth is not popular. It works out great for social media and garners ratings to blame a single person. Aside from that it works better for the President to be the target than anything that will affect local elections.
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    Trains. Socialists LOVE trains.

    Don't get me wrong... I worked on the railroad... I like trains too... It's a great way to move goods.

    But socialists love trains for moving people! It really makes sense, though. When you think of people as commodities instead of individual sentient human beings, it makes sense that you'd want to move lots of them where YOU want them to go - not where THEY want to go. And it's never market-funded trains... Always government funded trains. So, any rational person has to question, "where does the government want us all to go so bad?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Trains. Socialists LOVE trains.

    Don't get me wrong... I worked on the railroad... I like trains too... It's a great way to move goods.

    But socialists love trains for moving people! It really makes sense, though. When you think of people as commodities instead of individual sentient human beings, it makes sense that you'd want to move lots of them where YOU want them to go - not where THEY want to go. And it's never market-funded trains... Always government funded trains. So, any rational person has to question, "where does the government want us all to go so bad?"
    History has taught me, to not get on trains
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    “We’re going to change the nation in a big way.”
    Sure you are Joey.

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    "People that refuse to get vaccinated will be put on these trains to our quarantine camps. If they continue to refuse the vaccine, they will be shot and killed by a firing squad."

    Joe Biden within the next few months.
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    This is just the further implementation of agenda 21/2030 policies



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