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    Massie asks AG Garland about Jan 6 provocateurs

    Garland has no comment, of course. "Ongoing investigation" is cited as reason. Probably why the Jan 6 thing will drag on forever and ever so they can just claim ongoing investigation and never answer questions.

    https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/...81051561693185
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    https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/...81051561693185
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    Can't make this $#@! up...

    Rep. Bennie Thompson, the Mississippi Democrat who chairs the congressional commission investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, has been a vocal critic of an event he deems an insurrection and offered his sympathy to the police officers injured that day. He's even gone as far as to sue former President Donald Trump for responsibility for the melee.

    But as a young African-American alderman in a small Mississippi community in 1971, Thompson placed himself on the opposite side, openly sympathizing with a secessionist group known as the Republic of New Africa and participating in a news conference blaming law enforcement for instigating clashes with the group that led to the killings of a police officer and the wounding of an FBI agent. Thompson's official biography makes no reference to the separatist RNA.

    Thompson's affection for the RNA and its members — which FBI counterintelligence memos from the 1970s warned were threatening "guerrilla warfare" against the United States — was still intact as recently as 2013, when he openly campaigned on behalf of the group's former vice president to be mayor of Mississippi's largest city.
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    Lightbulb Massie questions AG on Jan 6th FBI plants

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    You have to get up earlier in the morning to beat @devil21.

    Like, a few weeks ago.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...6-provocateurs
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You have to get up earlier in the morning to beat @devil21.

    Like, a few weeks ago.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...6-provocateurs
    Doesn't hurt, I hadn't seen it yet.

    In any case, can't citizen journalists figure out who this individual is in the video ?
    "I am a bird"

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    If you all haven't seen this article yet, check it out.
    Meet Ray Epps: The Fed-Protected Provocateur Who Appears To Have Led The Very First 1/6 Attack On The U.S. Capitol
    https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/me...e-u-s-capitol/
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    If you all haven't seen this article yet, check it out.
    Meet Ray Epps: The Fed-Protected Provocateur Who Appears To Have Led The Very First 1/6 Attack On The U.S. Capitol
    https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/me...e-u-s-capitol/
    Why, IM! Are you doing a Collinz?

    There is good reason why AG Garland ran from Massie’s question faster than he could find words — and why he couldn’t even keep eye contact as he was dodging Massie’s gaze.

    After months of research, Revolver’s investigative reporting team can now reveal that Ray Epps appears to be among the primary orchestrators of the very first breach of the Capitol’s police barricades at 12:50pm on January 6. Epps appears to have led the “breach team” that committed the very first illegal acts on that fateful day. What’s more, Epps and his “breach team” did all their dirty work with 10 minutes still remaining in President Trump’s National Mall speech, and with the vast majority of Trump supporters still 30 minutes away from the Capitol.

    Secondly, Revolver also determined, and will prove below, that the the FBI stealthily removed Ray Epps from its Capitol Violence Most Wanted List on July 1, just one day after Revolver exposed the inexplicable and puzzlesome FBI protection of known Epps associate and Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes. July 1 was also just one day after separate New York Times report amplified a glaring, falsifiable lie about Epps’s role in the events of January 6.

    Lastly, Ray Epps appears to have worked alongside several individuals — many of them suspiciously unindicted — to carry out a breach of the police barricades that induced a subsequent flood of unsuspecting MAGA protesters to unwittingly trespass on Capitol restricted grounds and place themselves in legal jeopardy.
    More at link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Why, IM! Are you doing a Collinz?



    More at link.
    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again."

    But more at what link?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again."

    But more at what link?
    You ought to know. You posted it.
    "Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out?"--Will Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You ought to know. You posted it.
    Well then wait a second. How was I pulling a Collins?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Well then wait a second. How was I pulling a Collins?
    You posted the excerpt? I thought I did that.

    Collinz posts links. And clickbait headlines. And nothing else.

    And you're right. It's well worth the read.

    Last edited by acptulsa; 11-12-2021 at 03:00 PM.
    "Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out?"--Will Rogers

    "All I know is what I read in the newspapers, and that's an alibi for my ignorance."--Will Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You posted the excerpt? I thought I did that.

    Collinz posts links. And clickbait headlines. And nothing else.

    And you're right. It's well worth the read.
    Oh I get it.

    Yeah. I agree with posting excerpts as a rule. I usually do, and would have here, except that the article is so long and has so much in it, that no excerpt can really give you the gist. The essence of that article is that it's a litany of pictures, videos, and links to current and archived sites.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    If you all haven't seen this article yet, check it out.
    Meet Ray Epps: The Fed-Protected Provocateur Who Appears To Have Led The Very First 1/6 Attack On The U.S. Capitol
    https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/me...e-u-s-capitol/
    Wow. It appears Epps was the ringleader.

    Turning back to the Ray Epps – John Sullivan video clip above, it is remarkable to see Epps — a man kicked out of two group conversations by Trump supporters on accusations of being a Fed — and John Sullivan — a man kicked out of two cities by Antifa groups on accusations of being a Fed — sharing the same video frame, in the same group conversation, on the same night.
    ...
    The simultaneous presence of both Epps and Sullivan at the same place, at the same time, in the exact same conversation circle, suggests the possibility these two were not there by accident, but rather were instructed or encouraged by handlers to go out and — as FBI Special Agent Impola instructed his assets in the Michigan Plot — “Maximize Attendance.”
    ...
    Epps appears to have led the “breach team” that took down the very first police barricades of the day, overran the very first police officers, and opened the floodgates for thousands of Trump supporters to walk onto restricted Capitol grounds past the barricades. Because those barricades were quickly removed, and there was no other signage or reason to know that those ordinarily public grounds were restricted for the day, Ray Epps was part of the initial squad that led men like Jeremy Brown — charged for misdemeanor trespassing — to unwittingly walk into a booby trap.
    ...
    We now come to perhaps the two most important clips of this report: the footage that appears to depict Epps directing a number of men in the very first attack on the Capitol that fateful day.

    Researchers refer to the gang who took orchestrated this kick-off attack as #BreachTeam6.
    ...
    To be clear: the claim that this ~12:50 p.m. attack was the very first attack on January 6, kicking off the entire “riot,” is not a claim made by Revolver. It’s the claim made by the The New York Times, the Justice Department, and all other “official” pundits of the 1/6 commentariat.
    ...
    Just minutes later, Ryan Samsel will “kick off the riot” by being the first person to shove the police barricades. But just 2.6 seconds (yes, we timed it) before Samsel kicks off the January 6 riot, he lends his ear to Ray Epps, who whispers something in turn.
    ...
    As noted above, the New York Times and the Justice Department blame Ryan Samsel for starting the riot, and ignore the fact that just 2.6 seconds earlier, Samsel appeared to be taking explicit directions from Ray Epps—just like MaroonPB was.
    ...
    https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/me...e-u-s-capitol/
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    Were the Oathkeepers compromised after the organization was started, or was it always an FBI net?

    Secondly, Revolver also determined, and will prove below, that the the FBI stealthily removed Ray Epps from its Capitol Violence Most Wanted List on July 1, just one day after Revolver exposed the inexplicable and puzzlesome FBI protection of known Epps associate and Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes.
    ...
    So what exactly does the curious case of Stewart Rhodes have to do with Ray Epps?
    ...
    You’ll be shocked, then, to learn that the Oath Keepers sport an eye-poppingly long history of FBI infiltration.

    And lo and below, Ray Epps and Oath Keepers kingpin Stewart Rhodes are old pals in the organization. In fact, Stewart Rhodes was Ray Epps’s old boss. Back in 2011-2012, Epps was the Arizona state chapter leader of the Oath Keepers — the biggest Oath Keepers chapter in the country — while Rhodes was and remains the national leader. (See, e.g., archived proof of Epps as Arizona Oath Keeper President here, here and here.) Reason Magazine’s Radley Balko even interviewed Ray Epps while Epps was running the Arizona Oath Keepers a decade ago:
    ...
    Here you can see Ray Epps and Stewart Rhodes marching side by side at a march they organized, while Epps was in charge of Arizona.
    ...
    Here you can see Ray Epps and Stewart Rhodes together at a memorial service.
    ...
    While a precise timeline of Epps’s Oath Keeper relationship is not yet known, several data points are revealing.

    Public property records show Ray Epps lived in Arizona in 2009, and returned to Arizona in 2011. For a brief period in 2010, Epps appeared to maintain a residence in Las Vegas, Nevada. Given that this is exactly where Stewart Rhodes was living at the time, and that Epps returned to Arizona to become Stewart Rhodes’s top lieutenant as President of the Oath Keepers’ largest state chapter, Arizona, it seems quite plausible that Epps and Rhodes were early associates at the very outset of the Oath Keepers as an organization.
    ...
    https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/me...e-u-s-capitol/
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 11-14-2021 at 01:43 PM.
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    Revolver also determined, and will prove below, that the the FBI stealthily removed Ray Epps from its Capitol Violence Most Wanted List on July 1, just one day after Revolver exposed the inexplicable and puzzlesome FBI protection of known Epps associate and Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes.
    ...
    The question then arises: what prompted the FBI’s six-month slumber on Epps, and then their sudden purger on July 1?

    Well, they panicked. Two major media reports (discussed below) came out on June 30, each of which touched the Ray Epps “Third Rail” from different angles, and the FBI likely realized it was no longer safe to maintain a digital record acknowledging they ever knew who this guy was. Then, the FBI hoped no one would notice the purged files, or would either politely look away or actively assist with their cover-up.
    ...
    We know from the past that the FBI does put people on the Most Wanted List who later turn out to be the FBI’s own informants and operatives. Just a few short years ago, the FBI put crime boss Whitey Bulger atop the FBI Wanted List for 11 separate murders — while simultaneously listing him in their own special access internal files as a confidential government informant, who regularly reported to a Special Agent handler, despite being a “Wanted” man. The FBI’s internal files on Bulger were only accessible by the FBI Field Office’s Special Agent-in-Charge and a small handful of select assistants — meaning the FBI’s rank-and-file thought Bulger was a top criminal they were pursuing, while the upper ranks stymied investigations because Bulger was a confidential human source they were protecting.

    If the FBI rather recently reserved the #2 slot on the Most Wanted List (behind only Osama Bin Laden) for one of its own insider confidential operatives, and compartmentalized access to that knowledge such that even most of the FBI didn’t know what was going on at the time, can anyone possibly trust the FBI to report accurate information on January 6?
    ...
    https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/me...e-u-s-capitol/
    Why would the FBI put it’s own operatives on their most wanted list? Probably as part of their cover story. Gives the undercover operatives and informants street cred.
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