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    Manchin Mulling Leaving Dem Party

    SCOOP: Manchin Tells Associates He’s Considering Leaving the Democratic Party and Has an Exit Plan
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...eal-exclusive/

    In recent days, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) has told associates that he is considering leaving the Democratic Party if President Joe Biden and Democrats on Capitol Hill do not agree to his demand to cut the size of the social infrastructure bill from $3.5 trillion to $1.75 trillion, according to people who have heard Manchin discuss this. Manchin has said that if this were to happen, he would declare himself an “American Independent.” And he has devised a detailed exit strategy for his departure.
    This may be a stunt for political leverage, but man, this would be great news!
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    Can't see how it's a stunt. He's ideologically opposed to most of the Democratic agenda, and quite likely would lose his seat if he stays a Democrat.
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    He wants to expand the size, power, and cost of government at a slightly slower pace than the Democrat Party as a whole does.

    This means he's perfect for the GOP. I don't know why he's not a Republican already.
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    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    He wants to expand the size, power, and cost of government at a slightly slower pace than the Democrat Party as a whole does.

    This means he's perfect for the GOP. I don't know why he's not a Republican already.
    Well, he wouldn't go to the GOP, but if he stopped caucusing with the Dems, they'd lose their majority and Schumer would become the Minority Leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Well, he wouldn't go to the GOP, but if he stopped caucusing with the Dems, they'd lose their majority and Schumer would become the Minority Leader.
    Ditching schumer right now might add two years to the survival of America before the collapse . So , I doubt it .
    Do something Danke

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    If he wanted to leave the party he would have done it a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    If he wanted to leave the party he would have done it a long time ago.
    Maybe. But if he did leave at this point, it wouldn't be the first time a politician with years in a party left it after a big fight (e.g. Arlen Specter [twice], Zell Miller, Charlie Crist), or for political expediency (e.g. Donald Trump, Rick Perry, Joe Lieberman), or both.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Maybe. But if he did leave at this point, it wouldn't be the first time a politician with years in a party left it after a big fight (e.g. Arlen Specter [twice], Zell Miller, Charlie Crist), or for political expediency (e.g. Donald Trump, Rick Perry, Joe Lieberman), or both.
    Well I highly doubt he would register as a Republican. At best, he'd become an independent. Most likely, he'll continue to be a Democrat.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 10-20-2021 at 01:32 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Well I highly doubt he would register as a Republican. At best, he'd become an independent. Most likely, he'll continue to be a Democrat.
    problem i see if he changes anything is his re election . Unless he just wants to primary biden - harris , he could win that .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Maybe. But if he did leave at this point, it wouldn't be the first time a politician with years in a party left it after a big fight (e.g. Arlen Specter [twice], Zell Miller, Charlie Crist), or for political expediency (e.g. Donald Trump, Rick Perry, Joe Lieberman), or both.
    I was thinking of shelby .
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...eal-exclusive/

    This may be a stunt for political leverage, but man, this would be great news!
    Or this could be the far left pressuring Manchin to get on board with their plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    That means this was all a Marxist stunt to put pressure on him.

    Machiavellian pricks.
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