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    ZERO FREEDOM: “Zero COVID" Australians To JAIL Jail For Shopping Without Vaccine Passport

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    ZERO FREEDOM: “Zero COVID” strategy will see Australians lose freedoms, face jail time for entering shops without a vaccine passport
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-...s-vaccine.html

    (Natural News) Australia’s new zero COVID strategy is being used by the government to restrict people’s participation in society, and leaders of the state of New South Wales announced in a press briefing this week that unvaccinated people are going to lose their freedoms next month.

    In the announcement of updated COVID protocols they’re calling a “blueprint for freedom,” NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian announced that residents who are vaccinated can enjoy a list of “extra freedoms” when the state reaches an 80 percent vaccination rate.

    The state, which is home to Australia’s most populous city, Sydney, had already set a 70 percent threshold goal that would open up certain freedoms to people who are vaccinated. These include the ability to have up to five visitors in a person’s own home as long as all the adults there are vaccinated and up to 20 people in outdoor gatherings. Those who get vaccinated will be able to attend weddings and funerals of up to 50 guests, but eating and drinking may only take place there while seated. They will also be allowed to attend churches and places of worship, but singing will not be allowed. In addition, those who are vaccinated will be allowed to go to hospitality venues and retail stores as well as personal services such as hair salons, gyms, indoor recreation facilities and sporting facilities. However, all of this must be done while wearing a mask.

    The list of updated “freedoms” that are being granted when they reach the 80 percent mark will include the ability to travel freely anywhere within the NSW state, allowing up to 10 visitors in a private residence, no limits on attendance of funerals and weddings, the ability to stand up and drink at bars, and gatherings of up to 20 people outdoors.

    When these restrictions come into effect on October 11 for the state of NSW, unvaccinated people will not only lose access to “new” freedoms tied to the reopening, but they will also lose some freedoms that they are currently enjoying, particularly those in areas of regional and rural NSW that are currently already open.

    Deputy Premier John Barilaro said: “So there will be individuals in regional and rural New South Wales who choose not to be vaccinated who will lose their freedoms on the 11th of October.”

    Berejiklian said that people who do not get vaccinated will be barred entry to restaurants, entertainment venues and shops even after the state has lifted all restrictions pertaining to them in December. She said: “Life for the unvaccinated will be very difficult indefinitely.”

    Jail time a possibility for those who do not produce vaccine passports

    Unvaccinated residents of NSW who try to enter businesses without the required vaccine passports have been warned that they could face jail time for their actions. Leaders have said that the policing of vaccine passports should not be up to businesses; instead, the focus should be on individual compliance.

    He told the media: “If people want to do the wrong thing, if they get found out, as I said, it could be jail time there.”

    Some business owners have expressed concerns that employees could be attacked by people who are denied access to their shops over the new rules and are worried about the economic impact of excluding some members of society from the reopening.

    The current Delta variant outbreaks being seen in some parts of Australia have divided leaders of its states and territories. Some leaders in relatively virus-free areas of the country have indicated they will defy federal plans to reopen internal borders when the adult population reaches 80 percent full vaccination, which is expected in November.
    #1 - You have to be ALIVE to be able to shop
    #2 - Think this wont happen here? (Shut up, TheCount, we know you are a troll)
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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    Nope
    "The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality."
    -George Orwell, "Notes on nationalism"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Think this wont happen here?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Nope
    So you think this could well happen here. Well, well.
    "Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out?"--Will Rogers

    "All I know is what I read in the newspapers, and that's an alibi for my ignorance."--Will Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Nope

    Nope


    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Nope


    About as legit as yours, stormfront.
    "Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out?"--Will Rogers

    "All I know is what I read in the newspapers, and that's an alibi for my ignorance."--Will Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Nope
    What a surprise. Know what else I predicted? You would immediately be in here TROLLING as the VERY FIRST POST.

    Why exactly are you here? Is it your intent to undermine the ideas we have here? Every action you take seems to be THE OPPOSITE OF FREEDOM.

    I swear that WHEN TYRANNY comes here, and there are people running around actually putting guns in peoples faces if they do not permit a needle shoved in their arm YOU WOULD NOT CALL THAT TYRANNY. And I guess what is going on in Austraila doesnt affect us here? It could NEVER happen here? Are you one of the people that will put a gun to a persons face and tell them TAKE THIS SHOT OR TAKE THIS SHOT?

    I really think it is time for you to leave this forum permanently, ZIPPY TROLL.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    What a surprise. Know what else I predicted? You would immediately be in here TROLLING as the VERY FIRST POST.

    Why exactly are you here? Is it your intent to undermine the ideas we have here? Every action you take seems to be THE OPPOSITE OF FREEDOM.

    I swear that WHEN TYRANNY comes here, and there are people running around actually putting guns in peoples faces if they do not permit a needle shoved in their arm YOU WOULD NOT CALL THAT TYRANNY. And I guess what is going on in Austraila doesnt affect us here? It could NEVER happen here? Are you one of the people that will put a gun to a persons face and tell them TAKE THIS SHOT OR TAKE THIS SHOT?

    I really think it is time for you to leave this forum permanently, ZIPPY TROLL.
    His new "style" is interesting. Nope-a-dope.

    Works if you're being paid per post.
    "Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out?"--Will Rogers

    "All I know is what I read in the newspapers, and that's an alibi for my ignorance."--Will Rogers

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    The scary thing is how many Australians are okay with this! At least, if you go by the Australia subreddit (and Reddit is a hellhole of overzealous moderators, ready to ban anyone who doesn't tow the narrative), it would seem that way. Kudos to the protestors, but they gave up their right to arm themselves and fight for their human rights long ago.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    I really think it is time for you to leave this forum permanently, ZIPPY TROLL.
    I've been opposed to pretty much every ban so far on this forum. (including Zippy)

    I would not be opposed to TheCount being banned.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Havnes View Post
    The scary thing is how many Australians are okay with this! At least, if you go by the Australia subreddit (and Reddit is a hellhole of overzealous moderators, ready to ban anyone who doesn't tow the narrative), it would seem that way. Kudos to the protestors, but they gave up their right to arm themselves and fight for their human rights long ago.
    Yup, with so much censoring going on these days, who the $#@! knows what people are really thinking.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Trump Jr 2024!!!!

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    Yes, please ban TheCount because I too love intellectual safe spaces free from opposing opinions and reality checks. Orange man good!
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I've been opposed to pretty much every ban so far on this forum. (including Zippy)

    I would not be opposed to TheCount being banned.
    I do wonder why people like him do not choose to leave voluntarily. He does not agree with most of the people on any view at any given time. So its one of two things, he is a Sociopath who enjoys being disruptive (there are people like that), or he is getting paid to be a troll. We know part of their Psy Op campaign is to pay people to basically do nothing but be disruptive. His behavior, just like Zippy, is not normal. You and I get along on a lot of things. A few things we dont. That is a normal relationship. People like Zippy and The Count express behaviors that shows more that they are paid to disagree with what ever the majority says on EVERY topic. That is abnormal and a RED FLAG that they are Paid Shills.

    I do not like bans either. However, if the govt thinks everyone who does not express the point of view they have been assigned that they should be silenced. Favoring actual Freedom and Free Speech over authoritarian responses, what can be done to convince $#@!s like The Count to CHOOSE to leave our community without a ban?
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    I do wonder why people like him do not choose to leave voluntarily. He does not agree with most of the people on any view at any given time. So its one of two things, he is a Sociopath who enjoys being disruptive (there are people like that), or he is getting paid to be a troll. We know part of their Psy Op campaign is to pay people to basically do nothing but be disruptive. His behavior, just like Zippy, is not normal. You and I get along on a lot of things. A few things we dont. That is a normal relationship. People like Zippy and The Count express behaviors that shows more that they are paid to disagree with what ever the majority says on EVERY topic. That is abnormal and a RED FLAG that they are Paid Shills.

    I do not like bans either. However, if the govt thinks everyone who does not express the point of view they have been assigned that they should be silenced. Favoring actual Freedom and Free Speech over authoritarian responses, what can be done to convince $#@!s like The Count to CHOOSE to leave our community without a ban?
    A lot of what I've seen TheCount do is correct blatantly wrong information. So if reality is a minority opinion, maybe the response should be to introspect a bit more, rather than seeking comfort in the majority.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    A lot of what I've seen TheCount do is correct blatantly wrong information. So if reality is a minority opinion, maybe the response should be to introspect a bit more, rather than seeking comfort in the majority.
    I'm curious what you consider a productive post from him. I don't suppose you have an example?
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Trump Jr 2024!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    I do wonder why people like him do not choose to leave voluntarily. He does not agree with most of the people on any view at any given time. So its one of two things, he is a Sociopath who enjoys being disruptive (there are people like that), or he is getting paid to be a troll. We know part of their Psy Op campaign is to pay people to basically do nothing but be disruptive. His behavior, just like Zippy, is not normal. You and I get along on a lot of things. A few things we dont. That is a normal relationship. People like Zippy and The Count express behaviors that shows more that they are paid to disagree with what ever the majority says on EVERY topic. That is abnormal and a RED FLAG that they are Paid Shills.

    I do not like bans either. However, if the govt thinks everyone who does not express the point of view they have been assigned that they should be silenced. Favoring actual Freedom and Free Speech over authoritarian responses, what can be done to convince $#@!s like The Count to CHOOSE to leave our community without a ban?
    Zippy definitely seemed to lack a general reason for being here, except to disagree with people. Same with TheCount.

    The difference between Zippy and TheCount however is that Zippy put forth noticeable effort in his disagreements. Especially anything related to the Fed he would provide facts, sources, etc. Some of it was actually useful.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Trump Jr 2024!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I'm curious what you consider a productive post from him. I don't suppose you have an example?
    Don't have to go down far for 2 reality checks:
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...56#post7062556
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...53#post7062553
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    You consider the post in the first link to be a productive post??

    I'll give you the second one, but it's not hard to point out the hypocrisy of the Trump humper-in-chief.

    The post in the first link is just uninteresting snark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    I do wonder why people like him do not choose to leave voluntarily. He does not agree with most of the people on any view at any given time.
    Actually that's not usually been true. I think that I've been rather consistent in my opinions over time. What has changed is the prevailing opinion of the forum...

    Sometime in 2015, people began hating on me because I did not go along with Orange Man Good, the surge of Stormfronters and "racialist" politics on the forum during 2015-2016, etc.

    Somewhere around 2018 people realized that Orange Man was, in fact, pretty bad, and the hate eased off except for the die-hard Trumpkins.

    Now I'm not going along with Vaccines Kill Ten Million Babies per Second, or any of the related prevailing opinions, and there's more hate, including from some people with whom I've generally agreed the whole time I've been on the forum.


    I'm fine with that. I don't feel any particular need to go along with the crowd, never have and never will. I'm not here to belong to a clique or culture, nor for acceptance. If people hate what I post, they hate what I post. If they like what I post, they like what I post. If I'm banned, I'm banned. It's not of any concern to me.
    "The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality."
    -George Orwell, "Notes on nationalism"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    A lot of what I've seen TheCount do is correct blatantly wrong information. So if reality is a minority opinion, maybe the response should be to introspect a bit more, rather than seeking comfort in the majority.
    ^This. Seems like another thread where there is anger at someone for not repeating conditioned team talking points like a trained seal.

    But I do not discount @DamianTV saying that people sometimes could be paid here. I know for a fact a few people - the so called good guys in this forum were paid some years back for certain behaviors.
    * See my visitor message area for caveats related to my posting history here.
    * Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Nope
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    Yes, please ban TheCount because I too love intellectual safe spaces free from opposing opinions and reality checks. Orange man good!
    Yeah. We need more intelligent and stimulating discussions like this.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    A lot of what I've seen TheCount do is correct blatantly wrong information. So if reality is a minority opinion, maybe the response should be to introspect a bit more, rather than seeking comfort in the majority.
    I think we should stop these useless discussions and embrace what we believe in. Freedom of speech and a good debate. You need people who vehemently disagree with you to better shape your arguments. We should be happy there are a few of those people here and we should be proud that we don't ban them too easily. Our leftwing counterparts would ban us in a second.
    "I am a bird"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Actually that's not usually been true. I think that I've been rather consistent in my opinions over time. What has changed is the prevailing opinion of the forum...

    Sometime in 2015, people began hating on me because I did not go along with Orange Man Good, the surge of Stormfronters and "racialist" politics on the forum during 2015-2016, etc.

    Somewhere around 2018 people realized that Orange Man was, in fact, pretty bad, and the hate eased off except for the die-hard Trumpkins.

    Now I'm not going along with Vaccines Kill Ten Million Babies per Second, or any of the related prevailing opinions, and there's more hate, including from some people with whom I've generally agreed the whole time I've been on the forum.

    I'm fine with that. I don't feel any particular need to go along with the crowd, never have and never will. I'm not here to belong to a clique or culture, nor for acceptance. If people hate what I post, they hate what I post. If they like what I post, they like what I post. If I'm banned, I'm banned. It's not of any concern to me.
    You were collateral damage in a fake forum war since how that started was not real. There were however people on both sides that joined in thinking it was real and thus you joined in the Trump supporter witch hunt.
    * See my visitor message area for caveats related to my posting history here.
    * Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    I think we should stop these useless discussions and embrace what we believe in. Freedom of speech and a good debate. You need people who vehemently disagree with you to better shape your arguments. We should be happy there are a few of those people here and we should be proud that we don't ban them too easily. Our leftwing counterparts would ban us in a second.
    There was a time I'd have definitely agreed with you in this case. But that was before the current nope-a-dope strategy.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Nope
    Now I put him on a level with Swordshyll.

    "Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out?"--Will Rogers

    "All I know is what I read in the newspapers, and that's an alibi for my ignorance."--Will Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    I think we should stop these useless discussions and embrace what we believe in. Freedom of speech and a good debate. You need people who vehemently disagree with you to better shape your arguments. We should be happy there are a few of those people here and we should be proud that we don't ban them too easily. Our leftwing counterparts would ban us in a second.
    When was the last time TheCount had a good debate? Most people seem to just have gotten into a habit of ignoring his posts entirely (myself included).

    TheCount, Sunny Tufts, I just skip because they are always (always) 0 value. Orange-man-bad snark isn't an "opposing viewpoint". If that's what people want there's plenty of other places to find it (e.g., everywhere).
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Trump Jr 2024!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    A lot of what I've seen TheCount do is correct blatantly wrong information. So if reality is a minority opinion, maybe the response should be to introspect a bit more, rather than seeking comfort in the majority.
    Its people like him that causes us to have a Silent Majority. EVERYONE should be able to make decisions for themselves. For the rulers to have authority, the ability to make those choices is negated. Trouble is that people like The Count, and Zippy when he was around, support those who take away ALL choices from people.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

  30. #26

    Melbourne cases hit record despite two months of lockdown

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...es-2021-09-29/

    SYDNEY, Sept 30 (Reuters) - Melbourne's COVID-19 cases surged to record levels on Thursday with officials blaming illegal home gatherings to watch a key sporting event for the spike as a hard lockdown to combat the spread of the Delta variant neared two months.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Its people like him that causes us to have a Silent Majority. EVERYONE should be able to make decisions for themselves. For the rulers to have authority, the ability to make those choices is negated. Trouble is that people like The Count, and Zippy when he was around, support those who take away ALL choices from people.
    SO. WHAT.

    I liked Zippy & I like @TheCount- I enjoy his sarcasm & POV- that doesn't mean I always agree, but I don't have to hate anyone for disagreeing.

    And, he's not the one who made this thread about him.

    So back to the serious subject? Washington State is hiring for camps to hold dangerous Covid peeps.
    There is no spoon.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Sometime in 2015, people began hating on me because I did not go along with Orange Man Good, the surge of Stormfronters and "racialist" politics on the forum during 2015-2016, etc.
    I wasn't part of that, and we haven't interacted much at all, but I always thought Trump was a dirtbag politician who was only in it for the lulz, and every time I've seen the 'white culture' bull$#@! here I've called it out (particularly in immigration discussions).

    Now I'm not going along with Vaccines Kill Ten Million Babies per Second, or any of the related prevailing opinions
    But now you lost me. Your hyperbolic strawman shows that you either don't understand the argument, or don't think it's worth addressing.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    SO. WHAT.

    I liked Zippy & I like @TheCount- I enjoy his sarcasm & POV- that doesn't mean I always agree, but I don't have to hate anyone for disagreeing.

    And, he's not the one who made this thread about him.
    He did, though, by making sure post number two was his now-usual nope-a-dope. Otherwise he'd have merely been the target of a footnote that would have seemed rather petulant. And as for his point of view, I'm beginning to suspect that the only thing he still believes in is America's ideological self-segregation, because that's the only cause he seems interested in working toward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    So back to the serious subject? Washington State is hiring for camps to hold dangerous Covid peeps.
    What do you think, Your Grace? Got any comment other than, "Nope"?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 09-30-2021 at 01:47 PM.
    "Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out?"--Will Rogers

    "All I know is what I read in the newspapers, and that's an alibi for my ignorance."--Will Rogers

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    SO. WHAT.

    I liked Zippy & I like @TheCount- I enjoy his sarcasm & POV- that doesn't mean I always agree, but I don't have to hate anyone for disagreeing.

    And, he's not the one who made this thread about him.
    So what?

    Quit derailing threads to attack posters. I like NCLiberty's and Damian's POV. Sometimes I disagree with them but there is no reason for your hate against those who call out The Count for derailing threads. Take you passive aggressive attacks elsewhere and quit derailing threads.
    ...

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