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    It's just theater. They will raise the limit and print more money like always. There is no effective limit anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    It's just theater. They will raise the limit and print more money like always. There is no effective limit anymore.
    Right? Why get our hopes up like this?
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    That would be rad if "government shutdown" really meant government shutdown.
    Yeah, “shutdown” usually means shutting everything customer facing (like parks and garbage collection), while the rest of government continues to function. Even worse it is usually just a paid vacation for them.
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    The government will shut down at 11:59pm, Thursday.
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    Everyone knows they won't shut down until we shut them down.
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    Such a Tease..

    Been played before..

    Pro tip:
    The Stripper is not going home with you.. Enjoy the show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Right? Why get our hopes up like this?
    My post probably won't age well....but I dunno, this time feels different than the others. It happens to fall exactly at the end of gov and fedres fiscal year and we know the bankers have been looking for a reason to dump the FRN as global reserve currency. A default would certainly speed that up substantially and create a narrative for why the FRN can no longer be relied on for global exchange and an excuse to intro Fedcoin/CBDC. Just so much more going on this time than the previous shutdown dramas.

    (eta: technically shutdown and debt limit/default are separate but they do tie together)
    Last edited by devil21; 09-30-2021 at 08:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Such a Tease..

    Been played before..

    Pro tip:
    The Stripper is not going home with you.. Enjoy the show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    I’m dating a stripper right now. Not sure it’s a long term deal but she’s coming home with me lately
    What is your secret, Jedi master?


    (assuming she's not one of those strippers you see and think "ugh why is she still doing this?")
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Whew! For a second I thought this was going to be another government mandated COVID shutdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Such a Tease..

    Been played before..

    Pro tip:
    The Stripper is not going home with you.. Enjoy the show.
    LOL

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    What is your secret, Jedi master?


    (assuming she's not one of those strippers you see and think "ugh why is she still doing this?")
    Nah she’s cute. 26. I’m 35. Honestly it’s probably because I am financially independent. I’m not dumb, I’m just enjoying it while it lasts.
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    https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/sta...58598267334657

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Yeah, “shutdown” usually means shutting everything customer facing (like parks and garbage collection), while the rest of government continues to function. Even worse it is usually just a paid vacation for them.
    That's exactly it. The parasites use it as a vacation. I had the mispleasure of being in DC in 2019 during the last "shutdown." The whole city and surrounding areas were completely deserted. This, even though over 80% of the government was funded. It's all a scam.



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    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    https://twitter.com/AP/status/1443664899100618755

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    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/stat...52984303497217

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/stat...52984303497217
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/sta...58598267334657
    Stop helping him be relevant.
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    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Stop helping him be relevant.
    Sez the guy who just reposted the tweet by quoting it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Sez the guy who just reposted the tweet by quoting it ...
    Perhaps but these people only have the power you give them by providing them publicity. Otherwise he's a CNN wanna-be talking to no one who cares what he says.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Perhaps but these people only have the power you give them by providing them publicity.
    Sorry, but I'm not going to refrain from mocking people like David Hogg, especially when it can be done using nothing but their own words.

    Like so:

    https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/sta...68697504436246


    If you think that somehow gives him some kind of "power" that he otherwise would not have had, then I really don't know what to tell you - except that I guess I just don't have as low an opinion of others at RPFs as you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Otherwise he's a CNN wanna-be talking to no one who cares what he says.
    *shrug* You cared enough to repost his tweet so that you could complain about it having been posted in the first place.



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    Mitch and Chuck reach an agreement to add $480B to debt ceiling to cover about 45 days of additional spending until Dec 3. If that date sticks, then Dec 3 becomes a date where -both- the debt ceiling is hit again -and- another shutdown is set for. Has that ever happened before where both are timed up to the same date exactly? Hmmm....
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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