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  1. #121
    It is good to reference sources, and promote them if/when they are viable solutions which lead to "individual" freedom. But you must also consider that no matter how good a congressman may be, he/she is still a member of government.

    Free your mind. Think for yourself. Perhaps, just maybe, you will come to better alternatives/solutions. And if enough people do that... that is what Ron means by "reaching the hearts and minds of the American people".
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer



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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    It is good to reference sources, and promote them if/when they are viable solutions which lead to "individual" freedom. But you must also consider that no matter how good a congressman may be, he/she is still a member of government.

    Free your mind. Think for yourself. Perhaps, just maybe, you will come to better alternatives/solutions. And if enough people do that... that is what Ron means by "reaching the hearts and minds of the American people".
    So Rand and Massie don't support the sites mission? Gotcha.

  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    So Rand and Massie don't support the sites mission? Gotcha.
    I never said that.

    Free your mind, Phil ;-)
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    ...
    "Phill4Paul", please look over the site mission, and see if your screen name applies.
    You don't speak for these forums. And you do not speak for Ron Paul.

    I'd advise you to stop misrepresenting Ron Paul or this forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    You don't speak for Ron Paul or these forums.

    Immigration is a complex issue, and contentious, even among “liberty” oriented people. Calling people statists is not going to change any minds, or further the discussion.
    Telling people, especially long established members that they don't belong here is not going to change any minds either.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    You don't speak for these forums. And you do not speak for Ron Paul.

    I'd advise you to stop misrepresenting Ron Paul or this forum.



    Telling people, especially long established members that they don't belong here is not going to change any minds either.

    You definitely have some kind of personal vendetta toward me. I have no clue what it is, or what it is about. Never did I say that individuals "don't belong here". And how you can imply that I "speak for these forums", when I simply refer to a link on this site which outlines the mission.

    I am expressing/voicing liberty-oriented positions, and get my ass followed and chewed on, while you allow comments promoting biometric-tracking-for-life, shoot-on-sight, etc. to slide right on by.

    What's your beef, @Brian4Liberty?



    Edit to say:

    All candidates that I vet have a lifetime score well below a 90% threshold, typically in the 50-60 percentile. If you want to see what "good" they have done, I have provided links to the Index Scores in each of the candidates OP thread for your own review.

    Furthermore, even though I do not vote at the state/federal level, I have given Rand Paul a Green Asterisk, noting on his On the Record Sheet that he maintains a 100% Constitutional Voting Record.

    The idea is to get the neocons out-of-office. That is how you do it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I would note that the OP has highlighted negatives, not any positives. When it comes time for vetting, I will be interested in both side of the balance sheet.
    Last edited by PAF; 09-23-2021 at 02:36 PM.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

  7. #126
    "Right to Travel!" "Open borders!" Bull$#@! slogans that have very real affects on American citizens.


  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    "Right to Travel!" "Open borders!" Bull$#@! slogans that have very real affects on American citizens.


    I am not suggesting that it is not a problem, because it is. Keep the root of the problem, which is incentives flowing, and it will always persist.

    I take several issues:

    She has had "a lot of encounters with convicted rapists" on the property and "aggravated kidnapping" picked up on her property. If they were convicted, why are they not in prison?

    She was "actually chased" from the brush into her home, but then later says she "can't see" who's in the brush?

    She is "armed", but never fired a single shot to protect her, her family or private property?

    How is this my problem? More Feds? More of MY tax money, from how many states away?


    If somebody came onto MY private property, and/or threatened MY family, and I was ARMED, you best be assured I would not be on the news asking for more government "help" and on your dime.

    What, the Great State of Texas is turning "gee, I don't know what I am transgender", and asking for more government handouts themselves?
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    "Right to Travel!" "Open borders!" Bull$#@! slogans that have very real affects on American citizens.
    That point where philosophy meets reality. Alternatively, that point where logic meets humanity.

    It is difficult to convince people to adhere to some strict set of principles when they are made to suffer for them. Masochism is not for everyone, but the ideologues demanding open borders are usually the same individuals that do not suffer for their beliefs.



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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I am not suggesting that it is not a problem, because it is. Keep the root of the problem, which is incentives flowing, and it will always persist.

    I take several issues:

    She has had "a lot of encounters with convicted rapists" on the property and "aggravated kidnapping" picked up on her property. If they were convicted, why are they not in prison?

    She was "actually chased" from the brush into her home, but then later says she "can't see" who's in the brush?

    She is "armed", but never fired a single shot to protect her, her family or private property?

    How is this my problem? More Feds? More of MY tax money, from how many states away?


    If somebody came onto MY private property, and/or threatened MY family, and I was ARMED, you best be assured I would not be on the news asking for more government "help" and on your dime.

    What, the Great State of Texas is turning "gee, I don't know what I am transgender", and asking for more government handouts themselves?
    Which is a whole lot of "But" and "if."

    Neither "but" or "if" would be needed if perpetrators weren't allowed to cross the border unfettered.

    Simple solution to a complex problem.

  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Which is a whole lot of "But" and "if."

    Neither "but" or "if" would be needed if perpetrators weren't allowed to cross the border unfettered.

    Simple solution to a complex problem.
    Another positive to secession:

    You won't have my tax dollars from another state away to rely on to bail you out of every problem.

    Are you certain that you want to secede, Phil, knowing that Fed.gov won't be there for you? I for one am all for it.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    "Right to Travel!" "Open borders!" Bull$#@! slogans that have very real affects on American citizens.
    You do realize that the reason it's like that is because the border isn't open, right?
    "The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality."
    -George Orwell, "Notes on nationalism"

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